Slate article shows how feminism fails women

[Deuce]

Hey guys I found this one video with an old guy who does a dumb thing.

 

[Deuce]

Yes, the feminist ideal of egalitarianism is destructive.

"Everyone deserves equal rights and opportunities!"

"NOT ON MY WATCH" - Conservatives

 

[EMNofSeattle]

"Everyone deserves equal rights and opportunities!"

"NOT ON MY WATCH" - Conservatives

3000 years of philosophical tradition has dissolved to leftists throwing out banalities.

 

[Deuce]

3000 years of philosophical tradition has dissolved to leftists throwing out banalities.

Banalities? You're the one who said egalitarianism is destructive. Do you... not know what that word means?

 

[Lisa]

Yes, the feminist ideal of egalitarianism is destructive.

How is egalitarianism destructive? What is your problem with equal rights and opportunities for all?

Egalitarianism, or equalitarianism, is a school of thought within political philosophy that builds from the concept of social equality, prioritizing it for all people. Egalitarian doctrines are generally characterized by the idea that all humans are equal in fundamental worth or moral status.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

Here is something to consider.....In my experience if women ever discover that they have been lied to all of their lives it is in their 30's that they will likely figure it out....once she gets to mid 40's and still has not she is rightfully considered a lost cause.

It’s a terribly sad thing. Because many feminists don’t realize how big a mistake they made until it’s too late to find a good man and have children.

My great grandmother died surrounded by a loving family, how many of a feminists activists groups and career clients would even know she died?

 

[ecofarm]

Ecofeminism - Wikipedia

 

[TypicalRussian]

How has sexual identity changed? Are you suggesting that because women don't have to obey the conservative male idea of what a woman is supposed to be that feminism is destructive, or are you suggesting that feminism means that all women will soon be asexual and non-binary?

no Im saying the first way- and no it is not male dominated, men and women mutually agreed to act the way they did back then and they loved it!

 

[Hawkeye10]

It’s a terribly sad thing. Because many feminists don’t realize how big a mistake they made until it’s too late to find a good man and have children.

My great grandmother died surrounded by a loving family, how many of a feminists activists groups and career clients would even know she died?

Women are told in no uncertain terms that they must get established in a career before they even look for a man, then they must live as a couple for a bunch of years before having kids.....so women wake up at like 35 years old as say "Wait a minute, I wanted kids, it is already getting late for me to have kids, even if I froze eggs".

What this is all about is the feminists general hostility towards families, they mostly have little use for families, conservatives were always right about that.

 

[TypicalRussian]

It’s to keep us in a state of captivity. They’ve shown chimpanzees don’t practice masturbation in the wild. Only in captivity.

There are primitive tribes in Africa where researchers found masturbation is unheard of. They literally have no word for it and were confused when researchers explained to them what it was.

Contraception exists only to permit sexual immorality, and it also makes women less attractive. Men subconsciously in studies select photos of women not on the pill as being more attractive.

The sex craze culture we live in of endless porn and self gratification is not “liberation” it is an unnatural imprisonment both men and women.

yup, dont be comfortable and dont be in captivity

anyway I will now talk about the rights role in this(Im indepedent)-they want men to be masculine again but completely miss the point-feminism has taught women to be promiscuous in their 20's and marry later but the right and fox news thinks its just men being bad-

Boys, please don'''t leave my daughter waiting | Fox News

they want men to be masculine yet NEVER try to fight the conditions for this mess that some republicans fostered.they dont care about a system that screws men yet they continue to fill this unrealistic standard of men while never changing anything

also they never talk about the womens role-like ever while simultaneously talking about masculine roles 1000 times a day

 

[EMNofSeattle]

yup, dont be comfortable and dont be in captivity

anyway I will now talk about the rights role in this(Im indepedent)-they want men to be masculine again but completely miss the point-feminism has taught women to be promiscuous in their 20's and marry later but the right and fox news thinks its just men being bad-

Boys, please don'''t leave my daughter waiting | Fox News

they want men to be masculine yet NEVER try to fight the conditions for this mess that some republicans fostered.they dont care about a system that screws men yet they continue to fill this unrealistic standard of men while never changing anything

also they never talk about the womens role-like ever while simultaneously talking about masculine roles 1000 times a day

Well I mean the social castration of men has terrible effects on women. I don’t think the piece is outright criticizing men, but it’s not untrue, men who want to be happy need to pursue women. That’s the natural order of things.

I think in many cases “promiscuous” women are simply being tempted by bad men. This will piss off the feminists, but We know most women follow men in their relationships. My girlfriend and I when we started courting we had a frank conversation that this was going to be a pure relationship with boundaries that was to discern whether we would be fit for marriage. I think most ladies would love to hear a man say this up front.

 

[Lisa]

no Im saying the first way- and no it is not male-dominated, men and women mutually agreed to act the way they did back then and they loved it!

Stop with the lies. Women did not agree to act that way. They did it because they didnt have a voice to say otherwise.

 

[TypicalRussian]

Stop with the lies. Women did not agree to act that way. They did it because they didnt have a voice to say otherwise.

BS, they loved doing that-they loved working at home, they loved being with kids- you are the one who is spreading BS, also what voice? sure there is a patriarchy but almost all policy is centered around women

 

[Lisa]

BS, they loved doing that-they loved working at home, they loved being with kids- you are the one who is spreading BS, also what voice? sure there is a patriarchy but almost all policy is centered around women

Put down the conservative crack pipe.

You cannot possibly have a patriarchal society that is female-centered. That would be matriarchal.

 

[Hawkeye10]

Well I mean the social castration of men has terrible effects on women. I don’t think the piece is outright criticizing men, but it’s not untrue, men who want to be happy need to pursue women. That’s the natural order of things.

I think in many cases “promiscuous” women are simply being tempted by bad men. This will piss off the feminists, but We know most women follow men in their relationships. My girlfriend and I when we started courting we had a frank conversation that this was going to be a pure relationship with boundaries that was to discern whether we would be fit for marriage. I think most ladies would love to hear a man say this up front.

Women of quality rarely have any use for these moody Man-Boys that Toxic Feminism has created.

Thats not really a problem for a lot of feminists however, destroying the family was always a goal, women having no use for men other than sex (sex that women are in charge of given the truth of how sexual assault laws are now extremely biased against men) is winning to them.

 

[TypicalRussian]

Well I mean the social castration of men has terrible effects on women. I don’t think the piece is outright criticizing men, but it’s not untrue, men who want to be happy need to pursue women. That’s the natural order of things.

I think in many cases “promiscuous” women are simply being tempted by bad men. This will piss off the feminists, but We know most women follow men in their relationships. My girlfriend and I when we started courting we had a frank conversation that this was going to be a pure relationship with boundaries that was to discern whether we would be fit for marriage. I think most ladies would love to hear a man say this up front.

men are pusing women but the problem is that the next day your accused or lead on for favors by feminism-men dont want that crap and more and more of them are dropping out which I dont want but why is the right not concerned about the conditions for this(metoo,feminism) no mentions of that even though it is the only reason why it is happening, and that was my point, attack whats being done to men, not men

I mean I generally agree but i would also say that the opinions of women affect men too, if men see that women are only attracted to assholes, some men will become assholes to attract women but yes men lead women but women also need to be accepting of it which includes normalizing the culture to traditional values because what has a massive influence on them

 

[TypicalRussian]

Put down the conservative crack pipe.

You cannot possibly have a patriarchal society that is female-centered. That would be matriarchal.

nope, not true- all societies focus on women because they are the main genders of reproduction

why do you think women win in divorce courts or get lesser sentences?

 

[Deuce]

Bunch of old ass white male dip****s trying to tell women what they want and what they've been told to want.

You don't know anything about women and you don't know anything about feminism. Stay in your lane.

 

[Nickyjo]

I do not loathe women.

I merely loathe political feminism. That’s not the same thing.

Define “political feminism.”

 

[Nickyjo]

And she advocates finding a man who expects her to act like a man. The best and happiest relationships are between a masculine man and feminine woman who understand that they are different and structure their relationship accordingly.

I am not doing equal domestic work with a wife when I work 20+ hours of overtime and I don’t expect a wife to pull down equal or greater income.

This is a recipe for disaster. It is far better for a household to understand the marriage (not relationship or partnership or whatever cold unemotional terminology they use today is) is a complementary and not egalitarian one.

It is also really bad to date men a lady would never marry, because that sort of man will tempt her into impure physical acts and rob her of her ability to bond to a suitable husband

I have used that last sentence a few times in social situations with women I have met. The gals often ask if I could demonstrate a couple of the “impure physical acts” once or twice so they could recognize them and avoid them in the future. I reluctantly agree.

 

[roguenuke]

It’s a terribly sad thing. Because many feminists don’t realize how big a mistake they made until it’s too late to find a good man and have children.

My great grandmother died surrounded by a loving family, how many of a feminists activists groups and career clients would even know she died?

So no one beyond your family knows your grandmothers name? If true, that's.....normal. Perhaps she could have gotten her name known better though throughout the world by actually doing something beyond being a mother/grandmother, like having a carreer. Marie Curie comes to mind.

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[Lisa]

So no one beyond your family knows your grandmothers name? If true, that's.....normal. Perhaps she could have gotten her name known better though throughout the world by actually doing something beyond being a mother/grandmother, like having a carreer. Marie Curie comes to mind.

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How obvious is it that EMN and other incels like him are terrified of women who are educated, intelligent, and have careers of their own? He doesn't want to have to complete socially and he cannot get respect or a date from a woman who has a mind of her own and not controlled by the family or the church. The idea that women are social and intellectual equal with equal rights is terrifying to him and other conservatives.

The Rage of the Incels | The New Yorker

 

[EMNofSeattle]

So no one beyond your family knows your grandmothers name? If true, that's.....normal. Perhaps she could have gotten her name known better though throughout the world by actually doing something beyond being a mother/grandmother, like having a carreer. Marie Curie comes to mind.

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You’re right. A handful of feminists will be affirmative action entries in history books for doing something harmful or that a man could’ve done better.

Not really a good argument there

 

[zyzygy]

I have used that last sentence a few times in social situations with women I have met. The gals often ask if I could demonstrate a couple of the “impure physical acts” once or twice so they could recognize them and avoid them in the future. I reluctantly agree.

Isn't it awful when they do those impure psychical acts? I go along with them.

 

[Lisa]

You’re right. A handful of feminists will be affirmative action entries in history books for doing something harmful or that a man could’ve done better.

Not really a good argument there

You either are a hateful closet case or you are a misogynist who cannot tolerate the idea of an educated female who is likely far more intelligent than you are or could ever be.