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Slate article shows how feminism fails women

OceanBlues1 said:
Exactly. Which is why a woman should run as far away as possible from any guy(s) who demand obedience of the women they date or marry.
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Absolutely, it's degrading and takes all dignity from the woman. I am unsure why these views are even been presented in 2020.
 
OceanBlues1 said:
Exactly. Which is why a woman should run as far away as possible from any guy(s) who demand obedience of the women they date or marry.
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Which is why men should run as far as possible from women harassing us for really really serious relationships instead of just sex.
 
danielpalos said:
In other words, being a modern wife in modern times no longer means love, honor, and obedience? What is in it for the guy?
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I would say it means love and honor, isn't that enough for him? If not, tough luck. I think any guy who wants his wife to be obedient deserves to be single for life. As I said before, I wouldn't even date a guy who demands obedience, let alone marry one.
 
OceanBlues1 said:
I would say it means love and honor, isn't that enough for him? If not, tough luck. I think any guy who wants his wife to be obedient deserves to be single for life. As I said before, I wouldn't even date a guy who demands obedience, let alone marry one.
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You are not really really serious, are you? If only, we could find really really serious women in modern times. Why is prostitution illegal, anyway?
 
danielpalos said:
Being faithful to her husband.
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Okay. But there's nothing good about marriage to a guy who demands obedience and submissiveness from his wife. Which is why women are far better off not marrying any guy who demands it.
 
goldkam said:
Absolutely, it's degrading and takes all dignity from the woman. I am unsure why these views are even been presented in 2020.
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My guess; because some guys' minds haven't progressed beyond the 1850's, when women had basically no rights whatsoever. No rights to college education, no rights or access to high-income trades and professions, and of course no rights to vote, until 1920, that is. Even worse, these guys seem to want those dark and ugly days for women to come back.

IMO these are the guys who hate feminism, because that feminism gave women freedoms they never wanted women to have. You know, like the right to have a college and professional education, the right to have a high-income job or career, which gave them financial independence, so they could have whatever kind of home they wanted, without having to marry and/or have kids to get it. Education --->job/career-->money-->financial independence-->her own home, whatever that may be. "Feminism fails women?" Hardly!
 
roguenuke said:
Most others disagree with you.
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Yep, including me. "Traditional values were not oppressive," what a ridiculous -- and false -- statement! Of course they were oppressive, to the women who suffered under them.
 
danielpalos said:
Which is why men should run as far as possible from women harassing us for really really serious relationships instead of just sex.
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Great; then women have dodged a huge bullet. Thanks for doing us all a big favor. :lamo
 
OceanBlues1 said:
Great; then women have dodged a huge bullet. Thanks for doing us all a big favor. :lamo
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lol. I am the one with a really really serious relationship not you. ***** and a really really serious relationship are not the same thing. I prefer modern women just use me for sex until I get tired of it and clamor for a really really serious relationship as a result. Women have the absolute advantage in sex not really really serious relationships.

Polygamy, so Every woman can marry a nice guy. xoxo
 
danielpalos said:
Can you show me any religious morals that support your point of view simply for the sake of olde fashioned morality?
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I am not religious therefore any kind of religiously orientated morals have no place in my life. My morals are primarily informed by my family and their values.....I was always taught that respect is one of the fundamental values one should live their life by and I seek to continually uphold this.

Your views quite simply show a lack of respect for women, undermining the values by which I was raised and have sought to live my life by.
 
OceanBlues1 said:
:lamo Fox News, the least reliable news source ever. Why you think I would take that "news" network seriously is beyond me.
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i was talking about the right

I WAS CRITICIZING FOX NEWS
 
danielpalos said:
Why do women harass men for really really serious relationships instead of just sex?
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I don't understand your questions.....


There is harassment on both sides and the purpose and nature of this are dependent on each situation. Men harass woman too, what is your point?
 
OceanBlues1 said:
My guess; because some guys' minds haven't progressed beyond the 1850's, when women had basically no rights whatsoever. No rights to college education, no rights or access to high-income trades and professions, and of course no rights to vote, until 1920, that is. Even worse, these guys seem to want those dark and ugly days for women to come back.

IMO these are the guys who hate feminism, because that feminism gave women freedoms they never wanted women to have. You know, like the right to have a college and professional education, the right to have a high-income job or career, which gave them financial independence, so they could have whatever kind of home they wanted, without having to marry and/or have kids to get it. Education --->job/career-->money-->financial independence-->her own home, whatever that may be. "Feminism fails women?" Hardly!
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I am in shock, I have not seen such conservative and degrading views in quite a while.

Feminism has provided an important foundation to the granting of these rights, which were unfairly excluded from women for far too long. I do think feminism is losing its identity, as it becomes increasingly scattered and in many ways volatile.
 
goldkam said:
I am not religious therefore any kind of religiously orientated morals have no place in my life. My morals are primarily informed by my family and their values.....I was always taught that respect is one of the fundamental values one should live their life by and I seek to continually uphold this.

Your views quite simply show a lack of respect for women, undermining the values by which I was raised and have sought to live my life by.
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How did you reach your biased conclusion? Men understand equality. Equal protection of the laws is our right not our privilege. If only, Women believed more in equality.
 
goldkam said:
I don't understand your questions.....


There is harassment on both sides and the purpose and nature of this are dependent on each situation. Men harass woman too, what is your point?
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I have yet to have any women of alleged equality, make simple appointments for full body massage with Happy ending g-spot focus work like women who are really really serious about equality would, if there were any to be found in modern times.

Men, for example, who actually understand the concept of Equality would have a line around the block for that; Men really are that equal. Why are not women?
 
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