Shattered: Hillary Clinton campaign biographer: Here’s where she went wrong

[katzgar]

Just trying to assist Demokrats with the autopsy.

Bullpucky

 

[zimmer]

Sure, that's what you were doing. :roll: I thought surely after she lost you could finally get over it and stop your daily incessant whining about her. Perhaps you could obsess about someone politically relevant in 2017.

The obsession continues.

It seems like you folks are ready to dump The Clinton Corpses deep into the sea. I understand, but it should have been done about 20-years ago. You don't mind if we regale her finest moments as a politician? This, The Royalty of the Demokrat Partei.

It's not an obsession, it's just that we get the autopsy on her failed campaign and their partners, the Propagandists Inspired by Goebbels (PIGs) in book form. The behind the scenes takes. Odd... you're not interested? OK. There's other threads.

I hear when you squeeze the book, blood comes out.

I'm going to enjoy the crossfire going on in Demokrat Werld.

 

[Spartacus FPV]

The obsession continues.

Please, don't learn from this. Just be doomed to repeat history, its to my benefit.

 

[RabidAlpaca]

It seems like you folks are ready to dump The Clinton Corpses deep into the sea. I understand, but it should have been done about 20-years ago. You don't mind if we regale her finest moments as a politician? This, The Royalty of the Demokrat Partei.

It's not an obsession, it's just that we get the autopsy on her failed campaign and their partners, the Propagandists Inspired by Goebbels (PIGs) in book form. The behind the scenes takes. Odd... you're not interested? OK. There's other threads.

I hear when you squeeze the book, blood comes out.

I'm going to enjoy the crossfire going on in Demokrat Werld.

I was never, at any point a Clinton supporter. You, and many like you, spent over a decade in a high pitched whine about her. You are literally obsessed and it's all you can talk about. I thought the unhealthy obsession would die down after she lost the election and became completely irrelevant, but I gave you far too much credit on that one. Whine on.

 

[zimmer]

Sure, that's what you were doing. :roll: I thought surely after she lost you could finally get over it and stop your daily incessant whining about her. Perhaps you could obsess about someone politically relevant in 2017.

I think the people saw through the lie called Hillary. Everyone but the blind saw all that money from speeches as campaign bribes by the rich and powerful which they were. The treatment of Bernie Sanders was the final eye opener. The deceit and corruption had to end.

Ahhh... Sanders wasn't the eye opener. Election night was the eye opener. The corrupt DNC wasn't a surprise, it's only their getting exposed that was.

They're just starting to open their eyes, as the past 5-months has been wasted poisoning the minds of their followers with this absurd Russian BS.

This book is a small starting point for the punch drunk Socialists on their way to sobriety... but... most won't make it there. They're Dead Enders. Now to bring Obama to the fore so he can help sink the party further.

"...outlines a generational political disaster." Rolling Stone Rag. I'm not sure if they mean Obama, Hillary or both.



They claim Hillary didn't have a rationale for running. Sure she did. It was because she had a vagina, ate lots of feces publicly, and having done that, believed it was her turn to stick it to the American people.

 

[lurchadams]

She was out of touch, a dinosaur in a sprint, she was lazy, arrogant, is corrupt, was unapologetic for her corrupt behavior, and despite the Propagandists Inspired by Goebbels (PIGs) doing absolutely everything in their power to stop Trump... she failed. How sweet.

I guess it was "a vast right-wing conspiracy". It couldn't have been her, or her message. What was her message?

And we thank Obama, Clinton and the corrupt DNC for their efforts.

Oh! And not a word about the Russians... ROTFLOL...

It amazes me how conservatives are so obsessed with the Clintons. You won! You control all branches of government. Conservatives don't seem to be happy unless they have someone to vilify.

 

[zimmer]

I was never, at any point a Clinton supporter. You, and many like you, spent over a decade in a high pitched whine about her. You are literally obsessed and it's all you can talk about. I thought the unhealthy obsession would die down after she lost the election and became completely irrelevant, but I gave you far too much credit on that one. Whine on.

1. She ran for president... twice.

2. She was a carpet bagger Senator.

3. She was a pathetic Secretary of State.

She's been in the news, by her own choosing. She's not gone yet. She's still on the political stage, so... so long as she is, the arrows will keep coming.

If she goes away with her sexual predator husband... then they won't be relevant, except for serving as comparisons due to their corrupt behavior.

Leftists... they want their ugly past to be buried, and wake up as if yesterday didn't exist. It's how you remain Leftists.

 

[justabubba]

The obsession continues.

that election victory is all they've got
let them enjoy it while they can


what i notice missing in the OP, is that the demo machinery seemed to be at least as oblivious to insist on running her
that trump is worse than her is a terrible campaign slogan
the DNC is the swamp that needs to be drained

 

[zimmer]

It amazes me how conservatives are so obsessed with the Clintons. You won! You control all branches of government. Conservatives don't seem to be happy unless they have someone to vilify.

It seems Leftists are a little shell shocked. All that losing, and then the revelations about how pathetic and corrupt The Party Institutions and The Party Royalty is.

I understand. I really do.

We can help Libs like you get through this... I'll be there to help you... we will be Stronger Together on this.

 

[justabubba]

But the difference is that Hillary is a blatant and open racist who proudly supported Barry Goldwater. Obama did not. Furthermore many Blacks felt that Obama was a chump and a sellout and with Hillary promising more of the same...

i am guessing that because Obama was then three years old, that had something to do with his lack of devotion for the goldwater ticket

 

[justabubba]

Shattered isn't exactly the sort of autopsy that would match well with Theodore White.

but Theodore White's reading audience was not limited to picture-books

 

[lurchadams]

It seems Leftists are a little shell shocked. All that losing, and then the revelations about how pathetic and corrupt The Party Institutions and The Party Royalty is.

I understand. I really do.

We can help Libs like you get through this... I'll be there to help you... we will be Stronger Together on this.

Cons aren't happy unless they have someone to bully, hate, and taunt. It's not their fault, they're following the example of our current leader.

 

[zimmer]

that election victory is all they've got
let them enjoy it while they can


what i notice missing in the OP, is that the demo machinery seemed to be at least as oblivious to insist on running her
that trump is worse than her is a terrible campaign slogan
the DNC is the swamp that needs to be drained

All we got? ROTFLOL.

No. We have The Clinton Crime Family's scalp. Demokrats should be happy about that. Webb Hubbell's daughter might make a run, but hey... that's perfectly fine. The party showing it loves its corrupt past is no bad thing for Republicans.

Republicans control 32 State Legislatures.
Republicans control 33 Governorships
The House.
The Senate.
Neil Gorsuch.
President of the United States of America.
Republicans now control the governor’s house or the state legislative chamber in 44 states with full control in 25 states.

That's a lot of winning. Ass Kicking.

That wasn't just Hillary's accomplishment. Obama must take credit where credit is due, as Keefo Ellison noted some days ago.

 

[Kobie]

I can see where it would be painful for those who lost to see more reasons why.

On the other hand, all I would be interested in is accounts of what it was like in her hotel suite the night the kingdom she was certain was hers was yanked from her grasp.

Why? Do you really need to jack off that bad?

 

[AlbqOwl]

She was out of touch, a dinosaur in a sprint, she was lazy, arrogant, is corrupt, was unapologetic for her corrupt behavior, and despite the Propagandists Inspired by Goebbels (PIGs) doing absolutely everything in their power to stop Trump... she failed. How sweet.

I guess it was "a vast right-wing conspiracy". It couldn't have been her, or her message. What was her message?

And we thank Obama, Clinton and the corrupt DNC for their efforts.

Oh! And not a word about the Russians... ROTFLOL...

She is the standard bearer for the Democrats most of whom have no clue about what happened in November and no clue why it happened. So don't blame Hillary. Blame the culture of a party that exists for absolutely no other reason than it is the Democratic Party. There was no vision offered, no solutions offered, no argument for change, no argument for basic core values, no hope that things could be better. It was status quo right down the line and vote for us because a) we are not the Republicans and b) "I'm with her" i.e. she is a woman.

Not the way to win hearts and minds.

Trump in the face of being outspent by hundreds of millions, almost all devoted to attacking him or the Republicans, in the face of having to endure recitations of scandals from his path, in the face of being portrayed as the arrogant, deplorable, rich, white guy who was in it for himself. . .he offered a vision, spelled out goals to be met, agreed with the people that change of course and priorities was necessary to get us back on track and the status quo was not acceptable. He was not afraid to be politically incorrect and speak what at least half the country was already saying and thinking.

So we have a President Trump instead of a Hillary Clinton. It has been a bumpy ride so far and will no doubt continue to be turbulent, but a whole bunch of us are preferring that to a status quo of stagnation and continued decline.

 

[Fishking]

The obsession continues.

Please. The Trump-hate obsession goes beyond anything else that it could be compared to. The height of hypocrisy.

 

[zimmer]

Cons aren't happy unless they have someone to bully, hate, and taunt. It's not their fault, they're following the example of our current leader.

Oh yes... that's us. We breed it on college campi, as you've seen... denying people their right to speak, and sending people to the hospital.

We're the ones whose protests result in vandalism.

We're the ones with the history of spitting on troops, and hating the military.

We're the ones who used the IRS and DoJ as political weapons.

We're the ones who defended a sexual predator.

Our party called half the country not just deplorable, but irredeemable. And did you watch Obama and Clinton during the closing weeks? Was that going high? ROTFLOL...

Oh yes, the Republican Party, the only party with a perfect record on the right of Black Americans are the ones who hate.

You folks really are a work of art.

I understand, you're still shell shocked. Don't worry, we'll be Stronger Together.

 

[zimmer]

Please. The Trump-hate obsession goes beyond anything else that it could be compared to. The height of hypocrisy.

It doesn't register.

And Obama, spent all eight years going back to the Bush 43 well.

I love Demokrats, they're sensational entertainment value. Dangerous as hell though when they get near the reigns of power, but at times like this, aside from their violent protests, they're ****ing funny.

 

[Kobie]

Please. The Trump-hate obsession goes beyond anything else that it could be compared to. The height of hypocrisy.

Here's the difference -- TRUMP IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. He's on TV, making an ass of himself, every single day.

Hillary is gone, done, fini. Yet you guys still can't stop yammering on about her. It's interesting how hard it is to break a near three-decade habit. Had Hillary won the election, I have a pretty strong feeling the utter rabid hatred spewing forth from our friends on the right would dwarf any "Trump-hate obsession" from anyone here. It's borderline dementia for you guys every time her name is brought up.

 

[JackA]

Hillary got outlied. Decisively. Trump absolutely creamed her. Presidential politics had never before seen a liar of Trump's caliber. He's still at, the lies coming with masterful ease. The guy has never shown a trace of doubt in even a single lie. Hillary wasn't exactly a slouch. Lying is a standard feature of politics and Hillary's a veteran. But for all her experience she's still a conventional politician. Which meant she was only an average player up against the lying game's greatest star.

PolitiFact | Comparing Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump on the Truth-O-Meter

This made the difference. A truthful Trump wouldn't have got off square one.

 

[Kobie]

Oh yes... that's us. We breed it on college campi, as you've seen... denying people their right to speak, and sending people to the hospital.

We're the ones whose protests result in vandalism.

Ah yes, no conservative has ever vandalized anything! They're all just FALSE FLAGS OMG

We're the ones with the history of spitting on troops, and hating the military.

Nah, you just hate poor people and minorities.

We're the ones who used the IRS and DoJ as political weapons.

Yes, you are.

We're the ones who defended a sexual predator.

Too many to count.

Our party called half the country not just deplorable, but irredeemable.

Um, no. One person (unwisely) referred to a segment of Trump's support as "deplorable." Chalk up another lie for Zimmer!

And did you watch Obama and Clinton during the closing weeks? Was that going high? ROTFLOL...

I don't even know what this means.

Oh yes, the Republican Party, the only party with a perfect record on the right of Black Americans are the ones who hate.

:lamo A "perfect record"? What a blatant ****ing lie.

You folks really are a work of art.

I understand, you're still shell shocked. Don't worry, we'll be Stronger Together.

You're fun to bat around sometimes, but I gotta head to work.

 

[zimmer]

Here's the difference -- TRUMP IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. He's on TV, making an ass of himself, every single day.

Hillary is gone, done, fini. Yet you guys still can't stop yammering on about her. It's interesting how hard it is to break a near three-decade habit. Had Hillary won the election, I have a pretty strong feeling the utter rabid hatred spewing forth from our friends on the right would dwarf any "Trump-hate obsession" from anyone here. It's borderline dementia for you guys every time her name is brought up.

1. Hillary is not gone.

2. Only the first book has come out on this, and it's quite the hit job. It's worth discussing. Fortunately, this isn;t some Commi-Lib campus where you can shut down opposing views via violence. You will eat the icky peas, or you can run away... your choice Hombré.

3. It's a 3-decade habit, because their corrupt souls have been in politics that long.

4. We still want to find out about their pay-for-play corruption.

5. Dementia... ROTFLOL. My... you folks treated The Clinton Crime Family like Royalty for decades, and now you want to dispose of them quickly, like an abortion that never happened. Such loyalty.

6. Obama couldn't stop blaming Bush43 for 8-years. Their election loss is the first time he wasn't blamed for their incompetence and inabilities. For that you folks (ROTFLOL) tried to blame it on Oh Those Russians! ROTFLOL...

I understand you folks are still raw, and want to vaporize the abortions. A time will come when The Clinton Crime Family isn;t relevant, but that's not going to be for quite some time, as they're still active.

 

[Fishking]

Here's the difference -- TRUMP IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. He's on TV, making an ass of himself, every single day.

Hillary is gone, done, fini. Yet you guys still can't stop yammering on about her. It's interesting how hard it is to break a near three-decade habit. Had Hillary won the election, I have a pretty strong feeling the utter rabid hatred spewing forth from our friends on the right would dwarf any "Trump-hate obsession" from anyone here. It's borderline dementia for you guys every time her name is brought up.

I think you're over-inflating the existence of Hillary obsession due to your bias. For example, a book came out on her campaign and so a thread was made about it. That's an actual reason. That's quite different then say....a thread about Trump being the antichrist, which is really not different than a significant number of Trump is a big meany-head-jerkface-orange-cheeto-taupe that pops up on a daily basis.

 

[zimmer]

Here's the difference -- TRUMP IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. He's on TV, making an ass of himself, every single day.

Hillary is gone, done, fini. Yet you guys still can't stop yammering on about her. It's interesting how hard it is to break a near three-decade habit. Had Hillary won the election, I have a pretty strong feeling the utter rabid hatred spewing forth from our friends on the right would dwarf any "Trump-hate obsession" from anyone here. It's borderline dementia for you guys every time her name is brought up.

Here's a pretty good review of the book.

I had a good howl when I read the following:

"Some will say this Nixonesque prying into her staff's communications..."

Taibbi on the New Book That Brutalizes the Clinton Campaign - Rolling Stone

Hillary Rodham Nixon...

As the end of the article notes...

Trump or no Trump, The Demokrats need therapy - and soon.
###

Here to help... we can be... Stronger Together!
Oh! Yes We Can!

 

[JackA]

Here's the difference -- TRUMP IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. He's on TV, making an ass of himself, every single day.

Hillary is gone, done, fini. Yet you guys still can't stop yammering on about her. It's interesting how hard it is to break a near three-decade habit. Had Hillary won the election, I have a pretty strong feeling the utter rabid hatred spewing forth from our friends on the right would dwarf any "Trump-hate obsession" from anyone here. It's borderline dementia for you guys every time her name is brought up.

They're still living the campaign, or trying to, which is sort of understandable. It was the part of Trump's presidential experience that has not fallen on its face.