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Sexual Misconduct

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Harvey Weinstein introduces new legal team including anti-#MeToo attorney
Ex-producer’s new team includes Donna Rotunno, who previously argued the movement has done a disservice to women

“I’m not this advocate where men should be able to do whatever they want. But we are stepping on to a very large, very dangerous slippery slope when we say every allegation is considered rape,” she said.
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Harvey Weinstein introduces new legal team including anti-#MeToo attorney | Film | The Guardian


In the #MeToo era, criminal defense attorney Donna Rotunno might easily be seen as a traitor to her sex, but to her clients, she’s a hero.
From the beginning, a central tenet of the #MeToo movement—the social-media-driven phenomenon that has encouraged victims of sexual misconduct to come forward—has been “believe women.” Or, as a T-shirt for sale recently on Etsy reads: “I Believe Her … and Her, and Her, and Her.” Rotunno thinks that philosophy is laudable, even noble. Accusers have been doubted for too long. But often lost in the flood of accusations, she says, is a stark and undeniable fact: Not all people claiming they’ve been sexually assaulted or harassed are telling the truth. It’s a circumstance that occasionally makes headlines—most notably in 2006, when members of the Duke University lacrosse team were falsely accused of rape, and in 2014, when a Rolling Stone article about an assault at the University of Virginia was discredited after the alleged victim admitted making up her story—but in Rotunno’s eyes it has been largely eclipsed by the #MeToo dam break.

In such cases, people are often summarily convicted in the court of public opinion, and this deeply disturbs Rotunno, precisely because she worries that the “believe women” creed risks seeping into courts of law. “We are in an era of conviction by allegation in this country right now,” she says, “which flies in the face of the entire principle of innocent until proven guilty.”
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Harvey Weinstein's new lawyer says he was 'railroaded' by #MeToo movement
Harvey Weinstein's new lawyer says he was 'railroaded' by #MeToo movement - ABC News

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"White Out"
Anonymous
photo collage mural 182cm x 243cm
Rest Room, Think Coffee, NYC​
 
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Donna Rotunno​


Harvey Weinstein’s Anti-Metoo Lady Lawyer (And 5 Things You Should Know)

It is no stretch to say that one of the key reasons she defends men accused of sexual misconduct is in large part because she sees her work as upholding the need to ensure justice is being served by providing the best, possible defense. She has developed a ‘#Metoo Practice’ representing the accused males, noting that “Movements allow emotion to take over.”

During Rotunno’s brief remarks at the Weinstein hearing today, the lawyer claimed that her client has been “railroaded” by the #MeToo movement, adding at a post-hearing news conference, “The emotion of this case has taken over. There is a truth you have not reported on,” she told the media. This is the first time she has discredited the movement, which highlights experiences and stories of sexual assault or violence. “I’m not a woman who has ever subscribed to it. I believe women are responsible for the choices that they make,” she said.
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Harvey Weinstein's Anti-Metoo Lady Lawyer (And 5 Things You Should Know)
 
Angel said:
Sexual Misconduct

"I deeply apologize for my inappropriate behavior. I am greatly embarrassed.
I have behaved insensitively at times, and I accept responsibility for that,
though I do not believe that all of these allegations are accurate.
I always felt that I was pursuing shared feelings, even though I now realize I was mistaken."

Sound familiar?

One expects an "Amen" to follow

It has become the national prayer

a prayer of repentance

a public apology made by one of the men in the collage posted below:

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Can you guess which one? (Answer among links below)

They all sound the same

What is it that everyone is repenting publicly for?

What is their crime?

What is their sin?

And why are reputations and careers being ruined despite the public prayer of apology?​


30 celebrities accused of sexual assault since Harvey Weinstein
30 celebrities accused of sexual assault since Harvey Weinstein
Here Are All the Public Figures Who Have Been Accused of Sexual Misconduct After Harvey Weinstein
Harvey Weinstein, Kevin Spacey: More Men Accused of Assault | Time
After Harvey Weinstein: These Celebrity Men Have Been Accused of Sexual Misconduct
After Harvey Weinstein: These Celebrity Men Have Been Accused of Sexual Misconduct
The list: Celebrities accused of sexual misconduct
The list: Celebrities accused of sexual misconduct - The Morning Call
Answer to thread quote ID.
Charlie Rose - Wikipedia




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This thread completes the trilogy of threads posted by Angel in the Sex and Sexuality forum:​

Sexual Politics
Sexual Hypocrisy

Advanced Placement Trilogy Questions

How is it that all these publicly disgraced sinners are men, and powerful men at that?

Who manipulates the strings of the marionettes driving our public discourse on sexual misconduct?

Have these men been sacrificed for our sins?

Think​
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maybe I just can’t see it...is “Slick Willy’s” picture there?
 
Thingfish said:
maybe I just can’t see it...is “Slick Willy’s” picture there?
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"It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is. If the—if he—if 'is' means is and never has been, that is not—that is one thing. If it means there is none, that was a completely true statement."
—William Jefferson Clinton, Grand jury testimony (August 17, 1998)

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SEXUAL HARASSMENT IN THE LAW: THE DEMARCATION PROBLEM
Mane Hajdin​

1. Introduction
This paper presupposes that the law about sexual harassment in the work place, if it is to be acceptable, ought to provide a workable criterion of demarcation between sexual harassment and those forms of sexual interaction between people who work together that do not constitute sexual harassment. It also presupposes that the law ought to do so without leaving the latter class empty or almost empty, and without becoming a vehicle of legal moralism (for example, the fact that a certain act involves adultery should not in itself constitute a reason for classifying it as an act of sexual harassment).

I believe that the overwhelming majority of people, including the overwhelming majority of those who strongly support the present sexual harassment law, can accept these presuppositions, and that it is therefore safe to take them as one’s starting point. Most people also believe that the present sexual harassment law in fact satisfies the conditions that I have presupposed. The aim of this paper is to show that it does not, to examine why it does not, and to explore how it might be modified so that it does.

2. Consent
3. Unwelcomeness
4. Offensiveness
5. Pervasiveness
6. Reasonableness
7. Deliberate Insults vs. Bona Fide Sexual Advances
8. How We Might Try to Solve the Demarcation Problem
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https://philpapers.org/archive/SOBTPO-6.pdf
 
“Count no man happy until he is dead.”
Ancient Greek Wisdom

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What Price Virtue, America?​


Actor Janice Dickinson's defamation suit against Bill Cosby settled by insurer
(Reuters) - Actor Janice Dickinson reached a settlement with Bill Cosby”s insurance company on Thursday, ending a civil lawsuit she filed against the comedian after his representatives disputed her account that he had raped her, her lawyer said on Thursday.

Dickinson, a successful model in the 1970s and 1980s who also appeared in several television shows, is one of dozens of women who have accused Cosby of sexual assault. Some of the allegations date back decades.

Her attorneys reached an agreement with Cosby’s insurer, American International Group Inc (AIG), despite objections from his lawyers. Financial terms of the settlement were not disclosed.

A representative for AIG declined to comment.
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Actor Janice Dickinson's defamation suit against Bill Cosby settled by insurer - Reuters

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Andrea Constand v. William H. Cosby, Jr.
Andrea Constand v. William H. Cosby, Jr. - Wikipedia.

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IS THIS SEXUAL HARASSMENT?
Robin Warshaw​
The problem faced by men in this new environment is twofold: First, while most media-worthy cases of sexual harassment involve spectacularly colorful instances of inappropriate behavior, the majority of unheralded arguments currently being heard in the nation’s courts don’t fit so neatly into the public’s perceptions of right and wrong. Harassment sometimes is in the eye of the beholder, and what may be one man’s clumsy attempt at friendship or even honest romance may be one woman’s sheer hell.

Complicating the whole matter are the hazy boundaries of the law. Except in cases of actual assault, there’s still no steadfast uniformity regarding the type of behavior the courts and mediating agencies should judge to be harassing.

The following cases have all been culled from legal battles and disputes brought before public hearing examiners. Each has been chosen because it explores in some fashion the gray areas that lie just outside the realm of obviously inoffensive and threatening behavior. As you read them, ask yourself: Are the women involved simply too sensitive? Or are these in fact bona fide cases of harassment? Before you read the verdict, make your own judgment and see whether your behavioral gyroscope is guiding you straight and true—or wobbling
dangerously.
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https://philpapers.org/archive/SOBTPO-6.pdf
 
#FrackFeminism

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Kate Millet

Andrea Dworkin

Catharine MacKinnon

all want to save the women of the world

from "a fate worse than death"

Join the Crusade

Against Rape Culture

Save Women From Men

"Liberate and Protect"
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I AM WOMAN 2020

or

Maybe Helen Wasn't Reddy After All

a parody

I am woman, hear me whine
If menfolk fail to toe the line
And I know enough to look hurt and pretend

'Cause you've heard my rap before
when you jerks walked me to the door
No one's ever gonna kiss my ass again

Oh yes, I am wise
But it's wisdom after gain
Yes, I've dealt in lies
But look at all your pain

If I have to, I can do anything
I am wronged
(Wronged)
I am political
(Political)
I am woman

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i am woman lyrics - Google Search
 
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Moral Panics
The Warlock Hunt
Claire Berlinski

The #MeToo moment has now morphed into a moral panic that poses as much danger to women as it does to men.
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All true; yet something is troubling me. Recently I saw a friend—a man—pilloried on Facebook for asking if #metoo is going too far. “No,” said his female interlocutors. “Women have endured far too many years of harassment, humiliation, and injustice. We’ll tell you when it’s gone too far.” But I’m part of that “we,” and I say it is going too far. Mass hysteria has set in. It has become a classic moral panic, one that is ultimately as dangerous to women as to men.

But speak I must. It now takes only one accusation to destroy a man’s life. Just one for him to be tried and sentenced in the court of public opinion, overnight costing him his livelihood and social respectability. We are on a frenzied extrajudicial warlock hunt that does not pause to parse the difference between rape and stupidity. The punishment for sexual harassment is so grave that clearly this crime—like any other serious crime—requires an unambiguous definition. We have nothing of the sort.
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The Warlock Hunt - The American Interest
 
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"Am I the only one who finds these canned, rote, mechanical, brainwashed apologies deeply creepy? Isn’t anyone else put in mind of the Cultural Revolution’s Struggle Sessions, where the accused were dragged before crowds to condemn themselves and plead for forgiveness? This very form of ritual public humiliation, aimed at eliminating all traces of reactionary thinking, now awaits anyone accused of providing an unwanted backrub."
The Warlock Hunt - The American Interest


I ♥ Claire
 
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"Like so many revolutions, the sexual revolution risks coming full circle, returning us right where we started—fainting at bawdy jokes, demanding the return of ancient standards of chivalry, so delicate and virginal that a man’s hand on our knee causes us trauma. Women have long been victims, but now we are in so many respects victims no longer. We have more status, prestige, power, and personal freedom than ever before. Why would we want to speak and act as though we were overwhelmingly victims, as we actually used to be?"
The Warlock Hunt - The American Interest


I ♥ Claire
 
The Furies Go To Hollywood
Goddesses of Vengeance and Retribution in the Spotlight

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"I am woman, hear me wail!
It's time to put all men in jail!"​


Harvey Weinstein scandal: Who has accused him of what?
Salma Hayek, Rose McGowan and Gwyneth Paltrow are among dozens of women who have come forward with allegations ranging from rape to sexual harassment by movie mogul Harvey Weinstein.

He is currently facing five charges relating to two women in New York.

He has previously admitted his behaviour has "caused a lot of pain" but has described many of the allegations against him as "patently false".

His spokesperson has said "any allegations of non-consensual sex are unequivocally denied" and there were "never any acts of retaliation" against women who turned him down.
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Harvey Weinstein scandal: Who has accused him of what? - BBC News
 
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"Who knew? In 1970 it seemed like a good idea!"​
 
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