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Sexual Misconduct

Korimyr the Rat said:
Simple numbers. There are vastly more victims of rape than there are of false rape allegations, and a far greater number of rape victims are murdered than allegation victims even face criminal charges.

I will worry more about rape allegations harming innocent men when I start seeing real evidence that they've started harming guilty men.
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The allegations under discussion in this thread are not allegations of rape. Sexual assault and rape are criminal, deplorable, and actionable.
No, we're talking instead in this thread about the vague concepts of sexual misconduct and harassment.
It is in fact the conflation of serious crimes with these other vague non-criminal "offenses" that is part of the problem.
 
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Elvira said:
Read James 1:3 and tell me, does God ever try people with evil things?

Read John 12:31; 1 John 5:19; 2 Corinthians 4:3,4 and tell me, who is the ruler of this world?
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Thanks for the offer, however that particular book doesn't mean to me what it means to you.
 
bongsaway said:
Thanks for the offer, however that particular book doesn't mean to me what it means to you.
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So, why did you ask the questions, if you didn't want the answers?
 
Elvira said:
So, why did you ask the questions, if you didn't want the answers?
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It was more a rhetorical question. Since I don't place much credence in that particular book I was hoping it might cause some introspection for those who do. I personally like to have my beliefs challenged. I think it expands one's thinking.
 
bongsaway said:
It was more a rhetorical question. Since I don't place much credence in that particular book I was hoping it might cause some introspection for those who do. I personally like to have my beliefs challenged. I think it expands one's thinking.
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Really? lol...
 
Elvira said:
Well, I challenged you but you didn't take me up on it...
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No, you gave me a few bible verses. I was baptized a catholic, went to catholic school for ten years, spent numerous hours on my knees praying to god, went to confession I don't know how many times. I've had more than enough teaching about god/jesus/the lord etc.etc. I am not a believer in god or the bible so giving me some bible verses doesn't really challenge my beliefs. Critical thinking challenged the 'beliefs' I was taught and through my own living I disregarded those teachings for the reality around me and not the one I can't see, hear, taste, feel or smell. I have no problem if you are a devout whatever, religion is not for me and no matter how much I see, hear or read about it, I choose not to believe what others do about a god.
 
bongsaway said:
No, you gave me a few bible verses. I was baptized a catholic, went to catholic school for ten years, spent numerous hours on my knees praying to god, went to confession I don't know how many times. I've had more than enough teaching about god/jesus/the lord etc.etc. I am not a believer in god or the bible so giving me some bible verses doesn't really challenge my beliefs. Critical thinking challenged the 'beliefs' I was taught and through my own living I disregarded those teachings for the reality around me and not the one I can't see, hear, taste, feel or smell. I have no problem if you are a devout whatever, religion is not for me and no matter how much I see, hear or read about it, I choose not to believe what others do about a god.
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Then you should already know the answers to your own questions...what are they?
 
Topic Mnemonic​

Angel said:
Sexual Misconduct

"I deeply apologize for my inappropriate behavior. I am greatly embarrassed.
I have behaved insensitively at times, and I accept responsibility for that,
though I do not believe that all of these allegations are accurate.
I always felt that I was pursuing shared feelings, even though I now realize I was mistaken."

Sound familiar?

One expects an "Amen" to follow

It has become the national prayer

a prayer of repentance

a public apology made by one of the men in the collage posted below:

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Can you guess which one? (Answer among links below)

They all sound the same

What is it that everyone is repenting publicly for?

What is their crime?

What is their sin?

And why are reputations and careers being ruined despite the public prayer of apology?​


30 celebrities accused of sexual assault since Harvey Weinstein
30 celebrities accused of sexual assault since Harvey Weinstein
Here Are All the Public Figures Who Have Been Accused of Sexual Misconduct After Harvey Weinstein
Harvey Weinstein, Kevin Spacey: More Men Accused of Assault | Time
After Harvey Weinstein: These Celebrity Men Have Been Accused of Sexual Misconduct
After Harvey Weinstein: These Celebrity Men Have Been Accused of Sexual Misconduct
The list: Celebrities accused of sexual misconduct
The list: Celebrities accused of sexual misconduct - The Morning Call
Answer to thread quote ID.
Charlie Rose - Wikipedia




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This thread completes the trilogy of threads posted by Angel in the Sex and Sexuality forum:​

Sexual Politics
Sexual Hypocrisy

Advanced Placement Trilogy Questions

How is it that all these publicly disgraced sinners are men, and powerful men at that?

Who manipulates the strings of the marionettes driving our public discourse on sexual misconduct?

Have these men been sacrificed for our sins?

Think​
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Angel said:
The allegations under discussion in this thread are not allegations of rape. Sexual assault and rape are criminal, deplorable, and actionable.
No, we're talking instead in this thread about the vague concepts of sexual misconduct and harassment.
It is in fact the conflation of serious crimes with these other vague non-criminal "offenses" that is part of the problem.
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Yet no one is conflating the two. That is why the MeToo movement is needed. To combat inappropriate behavior of those in power who want to make business transactions into sexual ones.
 
devildavid said:
Yet no one is conflating the two. That is why the MeToo movement is needed. To combat inappropriate behavior of those in power who want to make business transactions into sexual ones.
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"MeToo" serves so women can hint at getting a benefit in exchange for possible (but not actual) sexual favors. In other words, get benefit for absolutely nothing in return. I suspect the vast majority of men are now wise to the "MeToo" game and just won't play anymore. I think the old Rush Limbaugh quote applies here. :

Rush Limbaugh - Feminism was established to allow...

Feminism was established to allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream.
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[of society]
 
SDET said:
"MeToo" serves so women can hint at getting a benefit in exchange for possible (but not actual) sexual favors. In other words, get benefit for absolutely nothing in return. I suspect the vast majority of men are now wise to the "MeToo" game and just won't play anymore. I think the old Rush Limbaugh quote applies here. :

Rush Limbaugh - Feminism was established to allow...

[of society]
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You mean men in power in businesses will finally behave professionally rather than lecherously? Sounds like a good thing to me. MeToo is wising people up to the abuse of power that men indulged in to trade business for sex. There is no place for this in any business.
 
devildavid said:
You mean men in power in businesses will finally behave professionally rather than lecherously? Sounds like a good thing to me. MeToo is wising people up to the abuse of power that men indulged in to trade business for sex. There is no place for this in any business.
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There will be lots of frustrated women who can no longer get ahead from hinting at offering sexual favors. The risk of taking them up on their offer will be too high. It's actually a bonus for young men that don't have that ace in their hold cards.
 
SDET said:
There will be lots of frustrated women who can no longer get ahead from hinting at offering sexual favors.
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Misogynist fantasy.
 
OlNate said:
Well, on this particular issue, I think the problem is and has been the way that men have historically treated women, in general.
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So female teachers/authority figures who have sex with underaged young people are just retaliating?
 
ecofarm said:
Misogynist fantasy.
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The silver lining in the "MeToo" cloud. Feminists don't have a leg to stand on when they complain about the Mike Pence rule.
 
SDET said:
The silver lining in the "MeToo" cloud. Feminists don't have a leg to stand on when they complain about the Mike Pence rule.
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If your misogynist fantasy were real, incels could spend a few years to reach a management position and never complain again. But plenty of incels are in management positions.

Women are no more likely to use sex than men.

That you imagine women less moral and ethical is misogyny.
 
WCH said:
So female teachers/authority figures who have sex with underaged young people are just retaliating?
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No, they are abusing their position as well and action should be taken to stop them. legally or otherwise.
 
ecofarm said:
If your misogynist fantasy were real, incels could spend a few years to reach a management position and never complain again. But plenty of incels are in management positions.

Women are no more likely to use sex than men.

That you imagine women less moral and ethical is misogyny.
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You're making a wrong ASSumption there. I have observed men using different manipulation tactics such as providing wrong information or directing someone they don't like to an incompetent resource. It's just a different poison. One needs to wary of both.
 
SDET said:
You're making a wrong ASSumption there. I have observed
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:lol:

That's how hate works. I don't believe you done seen right.
 
ecofarm said:
Believing women to be inferior is hate.
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When did I say that they are inferior? From my perspective women are more valuable because men are generally of no use to me.
 
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