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Serpent In Garden Of Eden : Satan?

The Serpent in Garden of Eden was/is

  • Satan : I’m a Christian

    Votes: 6 30.0%

  • Not Satan : I’m a Christian

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Satan : I’m not a Christian

    Votes: 2 10.0%

  • Not Satan : I’m not a Christian

    Votes: 3 15.0%

  • God : I’m a Christian

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • God : I’m not a Christian

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Other : please explain

    Votes: 9 45.0%
  • Total voters
    20
Daisy said:
Sure you do...every time you make the claim He did things wrong...
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You fail to understand context.

The discussions/context is typically like this:

If "god" exists as you say "he" does, then "god" is absolutely to blame for.....

Which is a whole world of different than:

I am an atheist, and I blame god for everything wrong in the world.
 
Dragonfly said:
I'm sure Jehovah just loves it when you act so childishly disingenuous.
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Jehovah has a great sense of humor...anyone who watches an animal at play knows that...you should lighten up and try it sometime... :giggle:
 
Daisy said:
Jehovah has a great sense of humor...anyone who watches an animal at play knows that
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What part of "Jehovah" is being displayed when you witness the raw and extreme violence that happens in nature?
You know, with and between animals?

Is that "jehovah's" sense of humor too?
 
Dragonfly said:
You fail to understand context.

The discussions/context is typically like this:

If "god" exists as you say "he" does, then "god" is absolutely to blame for.....
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Your conclusion does not follow from your premise. Substitute "you" for "god".

"If you exist as I say you do, then you are to blame . . . ." You are a good person that eschews evil, so how are you to blame for evil?
Dragonfly said:
Which is a whole world of different than:

I am an atheist, and I blame god for everything wrong in the world.
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devildavid said:
The god in the Old Testament stories most definitely changed into a different god in the New Testament stories.

So this god for whom nothing is impossible only had one means of providing salvation for his creation. This is an artificial limitation place upon a being who is also claimed to have no limitations.
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If God had no limitations then you would be saved. Obviously, it's not a myth that you most likely aren't saved, thus God is limited to your choice.
 
Overitall said:
Your conclusion does not follow from your premise. Substitute "you" for "god".

"If you exist as I say you do, then you are to blame . . . ." You are a good person that eschews evil, so how are you to blame for evil?
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Nobody blames shit on things they don't believe in. Nobody.


Willful Ignorance is Willful Ignorance.

Being blind to context is something only you can fix.
 
Dragonfly said:
What part of "Jehovah" is being displayed when you witness the raw and extreme violence that happens in nature?
You know, with and between animals?

Is that "jehovah's" sense of humor too?
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Dragonfly said:
Nobody blames shit on things they don't believe in. Nobody.


Willful Ignorance is Willful Ignorance.

Being blind to context is something only you can fix.
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You presented a hypothetical. I responded to it.
 
Overitall said:
Explain how I got it wrong.
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Would you blame some supernatural entity, that you don't believe in, when someone you know get's diagnosed with cancer?
Or when a shooter murders a bunch of school kids?
Or when a tsunami claims the lives of thousands?

Have you ever blamed anything on something your don't believe exists?
 
Dragonfly said:
Would you blame some supernatural entity, that you don't believe in, when someone you know get's diagnosed with cancer?
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You certainly do.
Dragonfly said:
Or when a shooter murders a bunch of school kids?
Or when a tsunami claims the lives of thousands?

Have you ever blamed anything on something your don't believe exists?
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No.
 
Overitall said:
Puhlese! It’s what you do all the time — blame a fictional (according to you) being.
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You clearly have absolutely no clue what "context" is when having a debate.

You claim god is "all loving".

I say, an all-loving god wouldn't be a mass-murderer.
Or, I say an all-loving god wouldn't create or allow a Satan to exist.

I'm refuting your comment.

Quote where I've said I blame god for something, but also be sure to include what I was responding to at the time.
 
Overitall said:
If God had no limitations then you would be saved. Obviously, it's not a myth that you most likely aren't saved, thus God is limited to your choice.
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The god you present is one for which you claim nothing is impossible. Which means that god is not limited by any human choice. And it is god’s decision as to who is saved, not any human being, as human beings do not possess the power to save anyone, including themselves.
 
devildavid said:
The god you present is one for which you claim nothing is impossible. Which means that god is not limited by any human choice. And it is god’s decision as to who is saved, not any human being, as human beings do not possess the power to save anyone, including themselves.
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2 Peter 3:9 "The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance".



not will that any should perish

get down to bible church, find God.

today.


Bench.jpg...doors open this morning. see you there


blessings.
 
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