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Sandra Bland's own video of 2015 Texas traffic stop surfaces

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The clip begins at the most dramatic moment of the July 2015 traffic stop near Prairie View A&M University: Encinia has opened Bland's car door and draws his stun gun as she tries to steady her phone's camera. The flashlights on the stun gun flick on and Encinia yells, "Get out of the car! I will light you up. Get out!"
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So, it looks like she delayed getting out of the car when the officer asked her, so she could get her video going - she was intent on framing the officer. It's not that difficult to see, but black people want to pretend that black people are not that way. We're supposed to believe that every black person who gets stopped by the police is cooperative.

We need to have a national discussion about racism in America, and figure out what it is we need to do to better accommodate black people before we offend the rest of the non-white people.

Oh, we already did. I forgot - President Trump.
:lamo
 
Prof_Lunaphiles said:
So, it looks like she delayed getting out of the car when the officer asked her, so she could get her video going - she was intent on framing the officer. It's not that difficult to see, but black people want to pretend that black people are not that way. We're supposed to believe that every black person who gets stopped by the police is cooperative.

We need to have a national discussion about racism in America, and figure out what it is we need to do to better accommodate black people before we offend the rest of the non-white people.
:lamo
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Intent on framing? Where do you get that? Maybe she just wanted to make sure there was evidence in case he used excessive force? Seems like it was a smart move.
 
Prof_Lunaphiles said:
...but black people want to pretend that black people are not that way...
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Seriously, go away.
 
jmotivator said:
Seriously, go away.
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I'll go away, but you need what I have to adjust the social stratification issues that we are enduring - you are not going to fix it without a constitutional convention. Black people need to get some skin in the game, and white people need to understand that the slave owning racists founders didn't know how to organize a three-part government that would guide a society to the transition for a true democracy.
 
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lwf said:
Intent on framing? Where do you get that? Maybe she just wanted to make sure there was evidence in case he used excessive force? Seems like it was a smart move.
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WTF?

Don't you see that there was a video capture from the police car - what does anybody need a video camera for if the police are supposed to be wearing body cameras??? Which they are not afraid to wear, because they are not what it is that you, cynics, describe the police to be.
 
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Checkerboard Strangler said:
Well, now that Professor Lunaphiles checked in with a representative of "the blacks"...
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Who are the black people who think differently?

They're called, "uncle toms," and "mediocre negros," by the more intellectually affluent African Americans.
 
This is clearly an older event and I am not aware of the case so I read up on it. I am not as concerned about this video as I am about the complete story.

I can see why there were lots of questions about this starting with the pull-over. It was stated that the officer was tail-gating her vehicle and so she pulled over, most likely in my opinion to let him pass. He then stops her for failing to signal? weak. Again in my opinion from what I read, she was goaded into pulling over by the officers action of tail-gating. JMO.

The rest of the story has many odd things in it, enough that I can see why there was a lot of contentions about it, the first thing that came to mind about this arrest, as bad as it appeared, was nothing to commit suicide over.
 
Prof_Lunaphiles said:
WTF?

Don't you see that there was a video capture from the police car - what does anybody need a video camera for if the police are supposed to be wearing body cameras??? Which they are not afraid to wear, because they are not what it is that you, cynics, describe the police to be.
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Which have a habit of "malfunctioning" or "accidentally" not being turned on before bad things happen to people interacting with officers.


Try not to say such stupid and dishonest things in the future.
 
Prof_Lunaphiles said:
WTF?

Don't you see that there was a video capture from the police car - what does anybody need a video camera for if the police are supposed to be wearing body cameras??? Which they are not afraid to wear, because they are not what it is that you, cynics, describe the police to be.
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The vast majority are not. Too many still are.
 
Prof_Lunaphiles said:
So, it looks like she delayed getting out of the car when the officer asked her, so she could get her video going - she was intent on framing the officer.
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Recording what actually happened is now "framing" someone?

From your post, it sounds like believe there is a good chance the officer is going to do something wrong, and it would be bad if there was evidence that might show it.

I suppose that's one way of pretending there's no racism in the USA....don't allow anyone to talk about it or record it. :roll:
 
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Prof_Lunaphiles said:
So, it looks like she delayed getting out of the car when the officer asked her, so she could get her video going - she was intent on framing the officer. It's not that difficult to see, but black people want to pretend that black people are not that way. We're supposed to believe that every black person who gets stopped by the police is cooperative.

We need to have a national discussion about racism in America, and figure out what it is we need to do to better accommodate black people before we offend the rest of the non-white people.

Oh, we already did. I forgot - President Trump.
:lamo
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If it is captured on video, then it is not framing. He did it, and the video proves it.
 
Prof_Lunaphiles said:
So, it looks like she delayed getting out of the car when the officer asked her, so she could get her video going - she was intent on framing the officer. It's not that difficult to see, but black people want to pretend that black people are not that way. We're supposed to believe that every black person who gets stopped by the police is cooperative.

We need to have a national discussion about racism in America, and figure out what it is we need to do to better accommodate black people before we offend the rest of the non-white people.

Oh, we already did. I forgot - President Trump.
:lamo
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No link? Are you too ashamed to post your link from Stormfront in your post? :mrgreen:
 
Mr Person said:
Which have a habit of "malfunctioning" or "accidentally" not being turned on before bad things happen to people interacting with officers.


Try not to say such stupid and dishonest things in the future.
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Then why bother with them, genius?
 
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lwf said:
Intent on framing? Where do you get that? Maybe she just wanted to make sure there was evidence in case he used excessive force? Seems like it was a smart move.
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Okay, so it seems that we need to have a law that when upon being approached by police people are to be allowed to retrieve their phones and turn on the video - right???

You don't think it needs to get to that???
 
lwf said:
The vast majority are not. Too many still are.
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You should quote a significant supporting passage when using linked arguments.

This article leaves a lot to be desired. It leads us to wonder, why? Why are the officers violating the law? Are they being disciplined??? There is probably a more suspicious reason why they are not turning their equipment on.
 
Prof_Lunaphiles said:
WTF?

Don't you see that there was a video capture from the police car - what does anybody need a video camera for if the police are supposed to be wearing body cameras??? Which they are not afraid to wear, because they are not what it is that you, cynics, describe the police to be.
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Some depts have actually reversed their decisions for dept cameras because of cost. And of course there is the capability for a rogue officer or dept to misplace a video, so I'm all for citizens taking action to record interaction. Also there are far too many "the officers camera malfunctioned or wasn't turn on" incidents even when required.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...aa5c2fcc9e4_story.html?utm_term=.0cf8360e69c7
 
Prof_Lunaphiles said:
So, it looks like she delayed getting out of the car when the officer asked her, so she could get her video going - she was intent on framing the officer. It's not that difficult to see, but black people want to pretend that black people are not that way. We're supposed to believe that every black person who gets stopped by the police is cooperative.

We need to have a national discussion about racism in America, and figure out what it is we need to do to better accommodate black people before we offend the rest of the non-white people.

Oh, we already did. I forgot - President Trump.
:lamo
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1-Your arguments are ridiculous. 2-ANy time you make idiotic blanket statements about 'black people' you make yourself look as stupid as the idiots that make comments about 'white people' or 'the cops' 3-The video showed literally nothing more than what we already knew...a citizen was exercising her right to record a law enforcement officer who handled a traffic stop like a thug.

All of this is already known. None of it has anything to do with her decision to hang herself 3 days later.
 
VanceMack said:
1-Your arguments are ridiculous. 2-ANy time you make idiotic blanket statements about 'black people' you make yourself look as stupid as the idiots that make comments about 'white people' or 'the cops' 3-The video showed literally nothing more than what we already knew...a citizen was exercising her right to record a law enforcement officer who handled a traffic stop like a thug.

All of this is already known. None of it has anything to do with her decision to hang herself 3 days later.
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Sandra Blands video does not show the activity prior to her turning it on, but the video from the police car does. I don't know if the police released the full video from the car, but this one did not align the videos; which is what we ultimately have to review to help make a more informed description of the incident. Really good chance the cop video is a lot longer than Ms. Brown's video, showing the cop doing a routine overly appeasing patience with an angry black woman out to frame a cop to be a racists.

She probably drove the black jail guards up the wall, and they killed her.
 
Prof_Lunaphiles said:
Sandra Blands video does not show the activity prior to her turning it on, but the video from the police car does. I don't know if the police released the full video from the car, but this one did not align the videos; which is what we ultimately have to review to help make a more informed description of the incident. Really good chance the cop video is a lot longer than Ms. Brown's video, showing the cop doing a routine overly appeasing patience with an angry black woman out to frame a cop to be a racists.

She probably drove the black jail guards up the wall, and they killed her.
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Doesnt make a bit of difference. She is a citizen. She has the right to sit there and turn her camera on. So do you. The reality is the video didnt show anything new. The biggest problem is your insistence on making racist comments. 'Black people' are as individual as 'white people'.
 
What a failure of a thread this turned out to be.
 
Prof_Lunaphiles said:
Okay, so it seems that we need to have a law that when upon being approached by police people are to be allowed to retrieve their phones and turn on the video - right???

You don't think it needs to get to that???
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There already is a law. Or rather, there is no law prohibiting this behavior. Do you think there needs to be a law that prohibits people from recording police on video?
 
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