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Sanders vs Trump; The Choice is So Clear. Sanders deserves Zero Votes. Mash's Appeal to Democra

aociswundumho said:
Fascists use government regulation to control private businesses in order to coerce them into doing the state's bidding. Trump has been cutting federal regulations - which is the exact opposite.

Fascists also do a lot of nationalization of private firms - both Mussolini and Hitler nationalized parts of their respective economies. Trump has never even suggested such a thing, unlike Bernie Sanders who wants to nationalizes all utility companies.

In fact, Bernie's entire platform is about centralizing power with the national government. If anyone is behaving like a fascist, it's Sanders.
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Quite correct. Fascists defend fellow fascists. Bernie does not believe you or I nor the country should be free.
 
Logician Man said:
The 'real deal' will forever have the stain of 'impeached' as part of his Presidential legacy. You can dispute this fact, whine about this fact, even attempt to divert from this fact....but a FACT it will remain nonetheless. Correct ?
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The stain is on the democrats who tried hard to convict the president yet failed. They wear the mantle of could not convict.
 
Lovebug said:
I happen to believe that hc is a right.
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A right of the payers. Sure, I have then a right to a car, a home, food, complete socialism. All the stuff that made Hitler, Stalin, Mussoni and recently Castro and Maduro so great.
 
Robertinfremont said:
The stain is on the democrats who tried hard to convict the president yet failed. They wear the mantle of could not convict.
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Evidently you are unfamiliar as to how the system works. Trump was, and will forever be, 'impeached.' Please try harder to keep up on just exactly how the 'impeachment' process works....not the 'conviction' process. In case you are unaware, the two are very different processes, and lack of 'conviction' does NOT negate 'Impeached.'....You're welcome.
 
Robertinfremont said:
A right of the payers. Sure, I have then a right to a car, a home, food, complete socialism. All the stuff that made Hitler, Stalin, Mussoni and recently Castro and Maduro so great.
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"free" hc will save us in the long run. We are paying for others already. Look at it this way. If everyone, even the bum on the street, can go to any doctor or hospital at the beginning of an illness, progression of the disease can be halted at minimum cost.
 
Logician Man said:
Evidently you are unfamiliar as to how the system works. Trump was, and will forever be, 'impeached.' Please try harder to keep up on just exactly how the 'impeachment' process works....not the 'conviction' process. In case you are unaware, the two are very different processes, and lack of 'conviction' does NOT negate 'Impeached.'....You're welcome.
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And further you think all that matters is that Clinton was impeached?

And you know very well an impeachment means nothing with no conviction.
 
Robertinfremont said:
For people hating the rich, they sure love to blow more and more money on the super rich of all time, the Federal Government. Democrats love of huge government stuns us.

Every republicans submits a budget to the congress that actually is promptly rejected by Democrats on the non mandates. There they pack to the gunnels with more pork. Then they complain said republican president is a big spender. Ironic.
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No one has grown Govt. like the Right. They use it to subsidize their friends and and get kick backs from the beneficiaries of their bloated Govt. Contracts.

If You Want Bigger Government, Vote Republican | Mises Wire
 
Robertinfremont said:
And further you think all that matters is that Clinton was impeached?

And you know very well an impeachment means nothing with no conviction.
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LOL! When all else fails....................divert to Clinton. DP comedy gold! ( defeat accepted )
 
Lovebug said:
"free" hc will save us in the long run. We are paying for others already. Look at it this way. If everyone, even the bum on the street, can go to any doctor or hospital at the beginning of an illness, progression of the disease can be halted at minimum cost.
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Here are some FACTS for you.
A. I was born in 1938 so over my life have seen far more than most posters have.
B. I never was told by mom how hard it was to pay for the cost of my birth.
C. My youngest brother was born in a Sacramento, CA Hospital and my dad really could not afford the family. He was self employed and lazy. Yet I was at the hospital when My Bro. was born and yet mom never mentioned the cost. Then she complained doctors drove Cadillacs.
D. prior to health insurance catching on, doctors and hospitals fees were much lower.

So the tool that made fees and costs skyrocket is how to help people?

Insurance along with government taking over has caused the problem in the first place.
 
Robertinfremont said:
Here are some FACTS for you.
A. I was born in 1938 so over my life have seen far more than most posters have.
B. I never was told by mom how hard it was to pay for the cost of my birth.
C. My youngest brother was born in a Sacramento, CA Hospital and my dad really could not afford the family. He was self employed and lazy. Yet I was at the hospital when My Bro. was born and yet mom never mentioned the cost. Then she complained doctors drove Cadillacs.
D. prior to health insurance catching on, doctors and hospitals fees were much lower.

So the tool that made fees and costs skyrocket is how to help people?

Insurance along with government taking over has caused the problem in the first place.
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What country operates that way now????
 
iguanaman said:
No one has grown Govt. like the Right. They use it to subsidize their friends and and get kick backs from the beneficiaries of their bloated Govt. Contracts.

If You Want Bigger Government, Vote Republican | Mises Wire
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From your link you supplied.

02/09/2016Ryan McMaken
One of the nice things about Bernie Sanders is that he seems to be honestly saying flat-out that he plans to massively increase the size of government.
 
Robertinfremont said:
YOU used impeachment to derail. And it is not funny.
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How did I use impeachment to 'derail' ? Specifics, please. You're clearly struggling with these facts I am posting. And it is funny watching you futily attempt to act like Trump's impeachment is meaningless without a conviction.
 
Robertinfremont said:
Here are some FACTS for you.
A. I was born in 1938 so over my life have seen far more than most posters have.
B. I never was told by mom how hard it was to pay for the cost of my birth.
C. My youngest brother was born in a Sacramento, CA Hospital and my dad really could not afford the family. He was self employed and lazy. Yet I was at the hospital when My Bro. was born and yet mom never mentioned the cost. Then she complained doctors drove Cadillacs.
D. prior to health insurance catching on, doctors and hospitals fees were much lower.

So the tool that made fees and costs skyrocket is how to help people?

Insurance along with government taking over has caused the problem in the first place.
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Is it not a fact that we all are paying for everyone else' hc already? I am talking about basic human rights. This "I am, I have, the heck with everyone else" doesn't sit right with me. Christians, and everyone else who has a lick of compassion, shouldn't be thinking that way. As for cost, I suspect that it is, at least in part, due to uninsured, huge overhead, and not to forget law suits.
 
Robertinfremont said:
From your link you supplied.

02/09/2016Ryan McMaken
One of the nice things about Bernie Sanders is that he seems to be honestly saying flat-out that he plans to massively increase the size of government.
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And Republicans lie when they claim they don't want bigger Govt. Which is worse? I'm pretty sure you like the liars best.
 
Robertinfremont said:
Non relevant question.

It is not about countries, it is about insurance and expensive government paying for health care.
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It
Cant
Be
Done



That is why no country does it. Duh
 
Moonglow said:
His Dad loaned him a million fifty years ago, did yer Dad loan you a million to get started in life?
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No, but I'm not a multi-billionaire either. Sanders actually got an inheritance. Pissed it away. That's how he would govern. He has no idea how to handle money.
 
Logician Man said:
The 'real deal' will forever have the stain of 'impeached' as part of his Presidential legacy. You can dispute this fact, whine about this fact, even attempt to divert from this fact....but a FACT it will remain nonetheless. Correct ?
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Forever acquitted. The partisan fabricated sideshow will mean nothing in history.
 
Mashmont said:
No, but I'm not a multi-billionaire either. Sanders actually got an inheritance. Pissed it away. That's how he would govern. He has no idea how to handle money.
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This will help the Trump haters learn about the super rich fairly quickly. If they read the many articles around that is.

Broke and bankrupt billionaires: 10 wealthy people who fell from the top - Business Insider

These 10 billionaires have all gone broke or declared bankruptcy — read the wild stories of how they lost their fortunes

Once some of the richest people in the world, these billionaires were all broke or declared bankruptcy at one point in their lives.
The former billionaires Bernie Madoff, Allen Stanford, and Eike Batista have all served jail time for financial-related crimes, while others lost their fortunes because of other circumstances.
We rounded up 10 famous billionaires who went broke or declared bankruptcy, plus the wild stories of how they lost it all or how their companies went under.

Broke and bankrupt billionaires: 10 wealthy people who fell from the top - Business Insider
 
BrotherFease said:
When Trump got out of college, with C averages, he went to work for his dad. His Dad gave him money. The concept that we should be praising an individual who filed for bankruptcy multiple times and was the only American every to lose over a billion dollars in 10 years, is just bizarre. And quite frankly, I do not hold Trump's wealth against him. He was a hit or miss business man. Failed in the 80s, succeed in the 90s and 00s. But the concept we should be praising somebody for coming from old money and deep connections is rather odd. If I had Trump connections, I would be a billionaire today. For Sanders, I couldn't care less if he got his first full-time job in his 40s. I care about policy and ability to set an example for the rest of the world.
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Sanders' Communist policy is the least attractive thing about him. But besides that, he is miserably unqualified. He has NONE of the skills required to be president. Can you imagine him negotiating with a foreign enemy? He let Hillary steal the nomination from him without a fight.
 
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