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Sale of Trump’s D.C. hotel on hold as commercial real estate industry reels

Because he's made how many millions off being president? If he didn't have forethought to save , tough crap...he doesn't get access to 500 billion to dole out and include his businesses in the mix...had he not been president that would be different

You seriously think he became president for financial gain? Either way, he employs a couple thousand people. Why would you want them to be laid off/let go, just to "get Trump."
 
Golf courses should not receive any help. You can argue for hotels, but not golf courses.

Sent from my Honor 8X

I was thinking about the employees TBH, I mean it hurts them indirectly. No?
 
It's not that his holdings should not get some relief. It's that he and others have written into the bill advantages that are designed to help them specifically.

( He even urged people last week to get out and play a round of golf.)

I tried to read through the bill but it's really confusing, and verrry long. I could be wrong, but I thought I saw pork in there that favors both parties cronies. I think it's so selfish and opportunistic.
 
Just the facts

Do you feel the same about democrat cronies that are making money on this "emergency relief bill"? Which part of the bill gives money to Jared and Ivanka by the way?
 
I was thinking about the employees TBH, I mean it hurts them indirectly. No?

Sure, but you really think that they would receive any pay? They are not allowed to work most places...and there are no customers..
 
You seriously think he became president for financial gain? Either way, he employs a couple thousand people. Why would you want them to be laid off/let go, just to "get Trump."

His daughter has earned 135 million since her father took office, right from the White House and on our dime.
Care to check out how much he charged the Secret Service in rent? or how much he made off of the parties held at Mar a Lago?
How much has he made in Saudi Arabia? How many times have we paid for his son to jet over there for business reasons?
 
Sure, but you really think that they would receive any pay? They are not allowed to work most places...and there are no customers..

I thought the relief money to corporations are to be pack unless they pay their employees.
 
you can lie to yourself all you want. you don't need fascism to support capitalism.
it 100% is required to enforce socialism.

compliance must be at 100%.

Oh you’re still posting in this thread? Pretty sure I put you to bed already. Go on, hit the hay and I’ll bring you a glass of water. Big day tomorrow champ.
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/03/31/trump-dc-hotel-sale/

Commercial real estate owners including the president likely to see tax benefits from stimulus package but sales stagnate

The commercial real estate industry has ground nearly to a halt due to coronavirus shutdowns, forcing buyers and sellers of major properties, including President Trump’s company, to put their plans on hold. Trump’s firm, which he still owns, has had to press pause on the proposed sale of its D.C. hotel lease due to the market’s collapse as potential buyers wait for banks and investors to return normal operations.

The company’s sales representative, Jeffrey Davis of JLL, confirmed to The Washington Post that the proposed sale of Trump’s lease to the federally owned Old Post Office Pavilion has been set aside as the industry recovers.
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Trump’s clubs and hotels, including Mar-a-Lago, suffer from coronavirus fallout. As of Monday, seven of the Trump Organization’s 10 top-grossing properties were closed.

The company has now laid off more than 550 workers at its hotels.

I images he will wind up coughing it up to the government to settle some of the inevitable claims.
 
not just commercial real estate is reeling the housing market is reeling also nobody can buy and sell homes because of all the uncertainty surrounding covid-19/Corona virus ... i have a feeling the housing market collapse will be greater than that of 2008
 
Oh you’re still posting in this thread? Pretty sure I put you to bed already. Go on, hit the hay and I’ll bring you a glass of water. Big day tomorrow champ.

YOu didn't put anything to rest i simply dismissed you because there was nothing else for you to argue.
when you post that kind of disgusting stuff you automatically lose and have 0 ground to stand on.
 
YOu didn't put anything to rest i simply dismissed you because there was nothing else for you to argue.
when you post that kind of disgusting stuff you automatically lose and have 0 ground to stand on.

After I made a joke about Trump’s businesses, you stated screeching about death and destruction and then called me a sociopath. I kindly put you out of your misery but instead of taking the hit, you foolishly started arguing economics with Thoreau and were again put in your place. Stay down.
 
After I made a joke about Trump’s businesses, you stated screeching about death and destruction and then called me a sociopath. I kindly put you out of your misery but instead of taking the hit, you foolishly started arguing economics with Thoreau and were again put in your place. Stay down.

I have seen your posts it wasn't a joke. There was nothing in there that was funny.
NO thoreau didn't put anyone in their place he also proved he has no clue what he was talking about.

not that you care about facts leftist don't care about facts.

Fascism is not required for capitalism it absolutely is required for socialism and communism.
I already proved that. Not that you care leftist don't care about facts.

So he just proved he had no clue what he was talking about.

Yes you were put out of your misery with your disgusting post.
I unlike you i don't with destruction on people simply because they have a different political view point.
you leftist do.

Right now i don't actually see an argument i see what is the leftist buzz word this week?
ol yea bloviating
 
I have seen your posts it wasn't a joke. There was nothing in there that was funny.
NO thoreau didn't put anyone in their place he also proved he has no clue what he was talking about.

not that you care about facts leftist don't care about facts.

Fascism is not required for capitalism it absolutely is required for socialism and communism.
I already proved that. Not that you care leftist don't care about facts.

So he just proved he had no clue what he was talking about.

Yes you were put out of your misery with your disgusting post.
I unlike you i don't with destruction on people simply because they have a different political view point.
you leftist do.

Right now i don't actually see an argument i see what is the leftist buzz word this week?
ol yea bloviating

More unhinged ranting from you. Just repeating the word leftist over and over isn’t actually an argument. Nor is calling people who disagree with you a sociopath.

I did actually comment again on Trump’s businesses. It was on the first page but it’s clear reading comprehension is not your strong suit. I’ll just leave it here for those who can actually follow an exchange.

I was only joking with my comment. While I think it’s wrong Trump exploited his position by accommodating secret service agents at his hotels and then charging the taxpayer, I don’t actually want his businesses to fail. All his employees at these hotels and resorts are blameless and just as affected by the lock down as the rest of us and I hope they have jobs to go back to when all this is over.

Little tip for you buddy. You might find your arguments with people will stop ending with egg all over your face if you actually take the time to read what they say and engage with their arguments. Your technique of repeating “leftist ... leftist ... leftist” isn’t as effective as you seem to think.
 
More unhinged ranting from you. Just repeating the word leftist over and over isn’t actually an argument. Nor is calling people who disagree with you a sociopath.

I did actually comment again on Trump’s businesses. It was on the first page but it’s clear reading comprehension is not your strong suit. I’ll just leave it here for those who can actually follow an exchange.



Little tip for you buddy. You might find your arguments with people will stop ending with egg all over your face if you actually take the time to read what they say and engage with their arguments. Your technique of repeating “leftist ... leftist ... leftist” isn’t as effective as you seem to think.

You can claim whatever you want. I have seen your other rant posts at trump on this forum and you didn't say it was a joke until people started calling you out on it.
No leftist is perfect for what it is described for.

I did engage your argument although there is not much to engage when their only argument is hoping that someone's businesses are failing.
In fact that really isn't an argument at all. SO there was nothing to argue against. It is just a matter of pointing out how disgusting that person is wishing harm on
other people.
 
capitalism is why this country has accelerated at the pace that it has.
it is the one reason that we are all better off in our life than what we were.

But sadly your way of life falls far far behind the more liberal and socialistic countries.

Freedom of Countries and Territories
1. Finland 100
2. Norway 100
3. Sweden 100
4. Netherlands 99
5. Luxembourg 98
6. Uruguay 98
7. Canada 98
8. Denmark 97
9. Australia 97
...
43. Chile 90
...
51. USA 86

Maybe with some hard work you can become as free as Chile.
 
I'm curious. Why is it so important to the left, that Trump's businesses don't get the same help other business owners are getting?

Because he has huge conflicts of interest, and that is unethical.

I mean other than the usual hatred.

Yes, to those who don't understand ethics, it probably does seem like hatred.

Conflict of interest - Wikipedia
The presence of a conflict of interest is independent of the occurrence of Inappropriateness. Therefore, a conflict of interest can be discovered and voluntarily defused before any corruption occurs. A conflict of interest exists if the circumstances are reasonably believed (on the basis of past experience and objective evidence) to create a risk that a decision may be unduly influenced by other, secondary interests, and not on whether a particular individual is actually influenced by a secondary interest.
 
But sadly your way of life falls far far behind the more liberal and socialistic countries.

Freedom of Countries and Territories
1. Finland 100
2. Norway 100
3. Sweden 100
4. Netherlands 99
5. Luxembourg 98
6. Uruguay 98
7. Canada 98
8. Denmark 97
9. Australia 97
...
43. Chile 90
...
51. USA 86

Maybe with some hard work you can become as free as Chile.

Not really.

SO lets go over their loaded bias scores.

OUr electoral process is a 4/4 so they are wrong
our election fairness is 4/4 which they actually got right.
Electoral districting is about right 3/4.
Freedom to engage in different political parties is 4/4

Their B3 is wrong that is 4/4
so is their b4 it is 4/4

C1 is 4/4
C2 after what we have found out about the FBI and all of their criminal behavior that should actually drop to a 2/4-1/4
E3 is a 4/4 anyone anywhere can organize people into a union.
F1-F2 are 4/4
F4 is 3/4 not 2/4

The US scores much higher than they scored us in many places.
political bias played a bit role in some of their comments.

Sorry but chile is full of corruption everywhere.
and no one scores a complete 100%.

so their entire thing is rank with political bias.
 
Not really.

SO lets go over their loaded bias scores.

OUr electoral process is a 4/4 so they are wrong
our election fairness is 4/4 which they actually got right.
Electoral districting is about right 3/4.
Freedom to engage in different political parties is 4/4

Their B3 is wrong that is 4/4
so is their b4 it is 4/4

C1 is 4/4
C2 after what we have found out about the FBI and all of their criminal behavior that should actually drop to a 2/4-1/4
E3 is a 4/4 anyone anywhere can organize people into a union.
F1-F2 are 4/4
F4 is 3/4 not 2/4

The US scores much higher than they scored us in many places.
political bias played a bit role in some of their comments.

Sorry but chile is full of corruption everywhere.
and no one scores a complete 100%.

so their entire thing is rank with political bias.

I’m sure you’re an expert on Chile, too!
 
I’m sure you’re an expert on Chile, too!

I know people from chile, i worked with them.
while they like it there they like it here better.
they have more freedom.

Yes they even say their government is corrupt.
i will take the word of people that live there.
 
Not really.

SO lets go over their loaded bias scores.

Loaded bias scores? :lamo They're from the Cato Institute. A right wing organization.


OUr electoral process is a 4/4 so they are wrong
our election fairness is 4/4 which they actually got right.
Electoral districting is about right 3/4.
Freedom to engage in different political parties is 4/4

Their B3 is wrong that is 4/4
so is their b4 it is 4/4

C1 is 4/4
C2 after what we have found out about the FBI and all of their criminal behavior that should actually drop to a 2/4-1/4
E3 is a 4/4 anyone anywhere can organize people into a union.
F1-F2 are 4/4
F4 is 3/4 not 2/4

The US scores much higher than they scored us in many places.

Hmmmm, you don't seem to understand how to evaluate data. You clearly think that because the USA isn't below a country in every single category, it isn't below that country overall. Please take some time to understand why this is in no way disproves what I said.

political bias played a bit role in some of their comments.

Sure, the right wing American organization was biased against Right Wing America. :roll:

Sorry but chile is full of corruption everywhere.

Your POTUS just told the governors they have to praise him or he is going to let some of their citizens die because of lack of help. Your POTUS has conflicts of interest around the world. Your POTUS is a scam artist who literally scammed money meant for children with cancer and stole from charity.

And you are accusing Chile of being full of corruption? Google "Glass Houses..."


I produced a reputable source, a Right Wing reputable source. To be honest, having so many Americans unable to properly evaluate data, unable to use critical thinking skills, is it any reason they have thrown away their freedom, and don't even realize it? Sucks to be American these days eh.
 
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