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Roy Moore campaign refuses to substantiate claims about accuser

Actually, it appears you and your pals have dug your own holes quite deep enough with your support of Scumbag Moore. Looks like the people of Alabama didn't appreciate it.

Every single post, you open your mouth about something you have no idea about. Its like watching a cow repeatedly walk into an electric fence.

I hate Moore, no real love for the guy can be found if anyone were to ask me.

I am willing to defend someone's civil rights as in due process and right to a fair trial.

All of the slander being thrown at Moore is nearly entirely without base, save for a few accusations that even if they proved true. Would only paint him as a man who dated girls of the hebe variety. Not making him in anyway a pedophile.

My love is for due process and the law, not for Moore.

Get it right at least once, for ****s sake.
 
Every single post, you open your mouth about something you have no idea about. Its like watching a cow repeatedly walk into an electric fence.

I hate Moore, no real love for the guy can be found if anyone were to ask me.

I am willing to defend someone's civil rights as in due process and right to a fair trial.

All of the slander being thrown at Moore is nearly entirely without base, save for a few accusations that even if they proved true. Would only paint him as a man who dated girls of the hebe variety. Not making him in anyway a pedophile.

My love is for due process and the law, not for Moore.

Get it right at least once, for ****s sake.

And the amazing thing is, that cow would have more brainpower in its left leg than you do in your entire body, as evidenced by your wailings.

Funny how concerned you are about "civil rights" for Moore(none of which have been taken away) when the man wants to deprive everyone else of their civil rights.

And, of course, there's no evidence that any of that was "slander".
 
Did someone tell you that you weren't allowed to support or vote for Moore? I didn't. No idea why you're whining to me about this. Support him. Then maybe he'll invite you down, and you can meet his Jewish friend and talk about the good old days of slavery and how to get rid of those pesky Amendments giving women the vote and freeing the blacks.

You want to believe he's innocent. That's your choice. I, on the other hand, am not naïve. Where there is smoke, there is fire.

You have a right to believe he's guilty as sin. That's all fine and dandy, but can you even prove what these women have said is legitimate? Evidence means so much more than someone's word. That's my point, but if you want to disagree with me that word of mouth is far more important than physical evidence, that's been proven by authorities, that's fine. You still haven't answered my question from earlier, so I'm calling you out on that. Are you going to give me an answer from earlier or do you simply want to refuse to answer (which will lead me to assume that, to you, this was all political and you're fine with it)?
 
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There are multiple accusers, their stories corroborate each other, as was pointed out two told people way back then when it happened, Moore signed that girl's yearbook, Moore sent another one a card, police officers have mentioned being told to watch him AND he was banned from a mall for stalking girls.

"Leaving open the possibility" my foot. You are actively defending him but pretending you're just being fair & balanced (hence the "innocent until proven guilty" act). Yet here's the thing: there is a whole lot of reason to think he did it. There is no reason other than a conspiracy theory to think he is innocent.

Namely: that every single one of these people is lying just to *get* a conservative. But you don't have any evidence for that. A suspicion of motive isn't evidence.

The number of accusers doesn't mean anything compared to whether or not if the stories are true along with evidence, provided and confirmed by authorities, to support those claims. Otherwise, it's one person 's word against another. It's no conspiracy to believe that he didn't do it if you look at what was and wasn't presented. Like the yearbooks: they were not presented to law enforcement, which they would give to forensic investigators. To this day, we know nothing on whether or not if all those inscriptions are real. Just forging any part of it can lead people, especially authorities, to question if the whole thing was tampered with, regardless of political affiliation. So, as far as we're concerned, neither you, me, nor anyone else really knows if those allegations are true. The ONLY people that know are Roy Moore and these accusers (along with the media). That's it. That's why I say, in which you seem to NOT be okay with at all, is innocent until proven guilty (in a court of law, or in everyday life).

If you read at any time what I put on here, I'm leaving the possibility that Moore could have done something, so that way I'm assuming anything. I really don't see how it's unreasonable to say that in an any case that it's ok to believe option A to be more true than option B, but you're open to the possibility of option B could actually be the more viable option. What IS unreasonable in these cases is just assuming that the accused is guilty without any evidence to back it up. That's like skipping the trial and going straight to the execution. But to say anyone that's giving someone like Moore the benefit of the doubt until something comes out to prove whether or not if he did the deed (and you're still open to him being guilty) is somehow supporting a pervert (without anything concrete evidence), that's ridiculous and untrue. If he did turns out to be the pervert he was accused of being, my belief that he didn't do anything would change entirely. Believe it or not, people can change their minds and opinions on subjects and people. Pretty mind blowing stuff, huh?
 
The number of accusers doesn't mean anything compared to whether or not if the stories are true along with evidence, provided and confirmed by authorities, to support those claims. Otherwise, it's one person 's word against another. It's no conspiracy to believe that he didn't do it if you look at what was and wasn't presented. Like the yearbooks: they were not presented to law enforcement, which they would give to forensic investigators. To this day, we know nothing on whether or not if all those inscriptions are real. Just forging any part of it can lead people, especially authorities, to question if the whole thing was tampered with, regardless of political affiliation. So, as far as we're concerned, neither you, me, nor anyone else really knows if those allegations are true. The ONLY people that know are Roy Moore and these accusers (along with the media). That's it. That's why I say, in which you seem to NOT be okay with at all, is innocent until proven guilty (in a court of law, or in everyday life).

Stupid absurdities.

1. I'm guessing you don't know any criminal defense attorneys or prosecutors. If I'm wrong, you don't need to tell me the result, but do go try to explain to one of them that the number of accusers doesn't matter.

2. Despite #1, you now make the same alleged mistake you pretend to care about: you have accused the woman of forging the writing in the yearbook. Ooops.

3. Nothing was "forged." The woman simply did not volunteer when first asked that the date was not written by Moore. But he did sign it. Her lawyer retained an expert and that is the expert's conclusion. If you say some words to try to cast doubt on that, you will simply reveal you don't understand how Bar Overseers work. Clue: if a lawyer lied about what a retained expert said (and this one has quite the list of qualifications) in order to influence an election, he'd get disbarred. Only the stupidest conspiracy theory would suggest someone you don't know would risk that.

4. "Innocent until proven guilty" is for a criminal case. You can type words. But I think we all know that none of us applies "innocent until proven guilty" to deciding whether or not to vote for someone in an election, which is what the question is here.

4b. Not that you or anyone else who defends Moore has ever applied "innocent until proven guilty" to someone on the left. Hillary was supposedly guilty of all sorts of things, but she's never been convicted in criminal court. Didn't stop the current Moore defenders from condemning her. Hell, didn't stop me from sitting at home until multiple "conversations" with friends convinced me it was more important to vote against Trump.

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5. Like I said, "There are multiple accusers, their stories corroborate each other, as was pointed out two told people way back then when it happened, Moore signed that girl's yearbook, Moore sent another one a card, police officers have mentioned being told to watch him AND he was banned from a mall for stalking girls." This is not and never was about just one woman and just one signature in a yearbook.



You're just playing the same game that's been played across this board, once again: pretend that the fact that one accuser wrote a date under a signature that IS Moore's means the entire thing has to be ignored. Thankfully there are enough decent and not-so-easily duped right wingers in Alabama. Moore lost, and rightfully so - and that sure wasn't because of a huge Dem presence. Kudos to the voters in AL.
 
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If you read at any time what I put on here, I'm leaving the possibility that Moore could have done something, so that way I'm assuming anything. I really don't see how it's unreasonable to say that in an any case that it's ok to believe option A to be more true than option B, but you're open to the possibility of option B could actually be the more viable option. What IS unreasonable in these cases is just assuming that the accused is guilty without any evidence to back it up. That's like skipping the trial and going straight to the execution. But to say anyone that's giving someone like Moore the benefit of the doubt until something comes out to prove whether or not if he did the deed (and you're still open to him being guilty) is somehow supporting a pervert (without anything concrete evidence), that's ridiculous and untrue. If he did turns out to be the pervert he was accused of being, my belief that he didn't do anything would change entirely. Believe it or not, people can change their minds and opinions on subjects and people. Pretty mind blowing stuff, huh?

Who do you think you are fooling when you type the words "I'm leaving the possibility that Moore could have done something" but nonetheless relentlessly defend him, demanding that the very strictest burden of proof we have - a burden ONLY applicable to criminal trials where the government seeks to take away a citizen's freedom - must apply to voters judging a conservative in an election?

I mean really? Yeah, you can type words and neither of us can read each others' minds, but really.....who do you really think you're fooling?



You don't even recognize the fundamental contradictions in what you post, do you? You try to dismiss it as a "he said/she said" - well, very many shes vs. one he, but nevermind - then manage to type this "If he did turns out to be the pervert he was accused of being, my belief that he didn't do anything would change entirely. "

LOL! If it turns out....IF....

So if all the existing evidence didn't convince you, what possibly could? You know nobody was hiding in a closet video-taping Moore molesting the underage women. You're just trying to cloak your biased conclusion in objective-sounding language, but anyone who thinks for half a second can see through it; you're just framing the issue in a way that excuses you from ever concluding that Moore "turn[ed] out to be a pervert". You're framing it so that you never have to say that.

Nevermind that people protected by proof beyond a reasonable doubt and the presumption of innocence ARE convicted in criminal courts regularly, on no more than a he said - she said.

Drop the act. It's transparent.





Franken and Conyers stepped down. Accused "Hollywood Liberals" either stepped away or were taken down. All because of pressure from the left.

It's only right wing politicians who are acting like everyone who accused them are liars and it's only right wing posters acting like its only the right wing politicians who are innocent.

Meanwhile, decent folk on the right recognize the reality of the situation: men in power tend to misbehave, and it is incredibly unlikely that cross-corroborating accusations are all lies, especially when there is more evidence. It's only a fraction of them that insist that we need to apply due process standards for elections when a right winger is accused, and suddenly don't mention it when a left winger is.

Drop the act.
 
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ANYWAY, fortunately it is now moot.

The dirty bastard lost. Let's see if he wins a defamation suit or what happens. Let's see how much conservative money pours into his coffers to hire lawyers vs. how much money pours into anyone else's coffers - if we're being fair and balanced - and see what happens....
 
ANYWAY, fortunately it is now moot.

The dirty bastard lost. Let's see if he wins a defamation suit or what happens. Let's see how much conservative money pours into his coffers to hire lawyers vs. how much money pours into anyone else's coffers - if we're being fair and balanced - and see what happens....

Moore will never file a defamation suit. He's enough of a lawyer to realize that the last thing he wants is for all the sordid details to be spread across the public record, under oath.
 
And the amazing thing is, that cow would have more brainpower in its left leg than you do in your entire body, as evidenced by your wailings.

Funny how concerned you are about "civil rights" for Moore(none of which have been taken away) when the man wants to deprive everyone else of their civil rights.

And, of course, there's no evidence that any of that was "slander".
Calling someone a pedophile, without the proof needed to show that they are one. Is slander, especially with how people have been spreading all of this crap like the plague.

The last time I spoke with someone this inept at logic, it was that damn Antifa fan-boy who thought Bernie wasn't really a socialist.
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You have a right to believe he's guilty as sin. That's all fine and dandy, but can you even prove what these women have said is legitimate? Evidence means so much more than someone's word. That's my point, but if you want to disagree with me that word of mouth is far more important than physical evidence, that's been proven by authorities, that's fine. You still haven't answered my question from earlier, so I'm calling you out on that. Are you going to give me an answer from earlier or do you simply want to refuse to answer (which will lead me to assume that, to you, this was all political and you're fine with it)?

You're calling me out on what? Like most people in the country, I believe the Moore accusers. Just like I believe the women who accused Harvey Weinstein, and I haven't got one iota of proof that they're telling the truth either.

Moore lost. Time to move on. Nothing to prove here. The people of Alabama have spoken.
 
Calling someone a pedophile, without the proof needed to show that they are one. Is slander, especially with how people have been spreading all of this crap like the plague.

The last time I spoke with someone this inept at logic, it was that damn Antifa fan-boy who thought Bernie wasn't really a socialist.
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Yes, a face palm is the proper reaction to your rather pathetic attempt to defend Scumbag Moore.
 
Yes, a face palm is the proper reaction to your rather pathetic attempt to defend Scumbag Moore.

Actually, there are thousands of people who are accused of such things every year and their lives are almost entirely ruined by such accusations. Be them guilty or not, but if you want to hide on that moral high horse of yours and believe that I am only talking about Moore. Then go ahead and remain willingly ignorant of the world around you.

People like you have always been incredibly able in that regard..

So now you have forced me to upgrade you too the maximum package.
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Well, it's over. The black voters of Alabama weren't willing to see an accused pedophile and a religious extremist and young Earther be seated in the US Senate, so the election is over and he's now irrelevant.

So, back to bashing Hillary.... Oh wait!
 
Actually, there are thousands of people who are accused of such things every year and their lives are almost entirely ruined by such accusations. Be them guilty or not, but if you want to hide on that moral high horse of yours and believe that I am only talking about Moore. Then go ahead and remain willingly ignorant of the world around you.

People like you have always been incredibly able in that regard..

So now you have forced me to upgrade you too the maximum package.
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Yes, those Wehrmacht personnel also think your claims are downright moronic. As, apparently, did enough people in the state of Alabama seeing as Scumbag Moore lost.
 
Yes, those Wehrmacht personnel also think your claims are downright moronic. As, apparently, did enough people in the state of Alabama seeing as Scumbag Moore lost.

Once again, you completely miss the meaning of the post.

Moore is irrelevant in this, I know you want him to be. Just so you can rage in impotence just a little longer, but its over.
He lost, so deal with it and grow the hell up.
 
Well, it's over. The black voters of Alabama weren't willing to see an accused pedophile and a religious extremist and young Earther be seated in the US Senate, so the election is over and he's now irrelevant.

So, back to bashing Hillary.... Oh wait!

Well if you want us to go to bashing her so much, I guess we could do something. Though in all honesty, she has been rather irrelevant since before the election ended and is slipping even further into that hole as the days proceed.
 
Well if you want us to go to bashing her so much, I guess we could do something. Though in all honesty, she has been rather irrelevant since before the election ended and is slipping even further into that hole as the days proceed.



that was my point.

Moore and Clinton are irrelevant. Let's focus on the winners of the elections.
 
So how many people have pictures people who they knew and dated in jr high together with them?

I couldn't provide you with a picture of almost any of the guys I have dated. My husband and maybe 2 others. Most were after the invention of cell phones in fact.
 
Calling someone a pedophile, without the proof needed to show that they are one. Is slander, especially with how people have been spreading all of this crap like the plague.

The last time I spoke with someone this inept at logic, it was that damn Antifa fan-boy who thought Bernie wasn't really a socialist.
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He's not a pedophile, but most current evidence indicates that he is or at least was an ephebophile. He was attracted to teenage girls before he met his wife. He even admits taking notice of his wife while she was still a teenager (she was even in the same class as the woman with the yearbook).
 
He's not a pedophile, but most current evidence indicates that he is or at least was an ephebophile. He was attracted to teenage girls before he met his wife. He even admits taking notice of his wife while she was still a teenager (she was even in the same class as the woman with the yearbook).

Information that can be easily corroborated, so I can admit to that without a shadow of doubt.

Its just that when I see people spreading false rhetoric like wildfire, it kind of incites a boil in me.

All these people could prove, was that he had a taste or younger women. He himself admitted this, though he said it wasn't all that common to him and in another speech I believe he said it got less common with age.

None of them have been able to prove illegal activity.
 
Leigh Corfman is to sue Moore and his team for defamation after he (and they) called her a liar That should slow down his shenanigans for a while.
 
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