Roger Stone GUILTY!!!!

[Pound4abrown]

Let's just remember what Stone was found guilty of doing:



This related to the following information:


Source: Document: Indictment of Roger Stone - Lawfare

In other words, he lied about collusion between the Trump campaign and Wikileaks, who was disseminating materials stolen by Russia. Collusion. Again. Confirmed.

You will see and/or hear crickets from the Right on this.
He was doing that all on his own with no guidance from candidate Trump (who barely remembers who he is, btw).

 

[Slyfox696]

You will see and/or hear crickets from the Right on this.
He was doing that all on his own with no guidance from candidate Trump (who barely remembers who he is, btw).

I believe the only time Trump met Stone was when Stone was fetching coffee.

 

[Keridan]

Sure you can. The Reagan administration is still the reigning champion in corruption in terms of convictions, trials, etc....

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And you think that had no effect on voting back then? That was the point presented

Also, bear in mind that while there were many problems, there is a huge difference between what corruption or trials meant

Reagan wasn't the hero many remember him as, but he wasn't the villain many paint him as either

 

[Tanngrisnir]

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And you think that had no effect on voting back then? That was the point presented

Also, bear in mind that while there were many problems, there is a huge difference between what corruption or trials meant

Reagan wasn't the hero many remember him as, but he wasn't the villain many paint him as either

No, his administration had the most villians, but Reagan was never the kindhearted, grandfatherly figure that many try and paint him out to be.

Not even remotely. Racist as hell, and a former stooge for the FBI.

 

[Obscurity]

FFS - and nooo, everyone BUT Trump is wrong. Trump knows ALL the things and is always right. No corruption.

THIS is the sham. That he is legitimate.

 

[GDViking]

Only the best people.
Enjoy prison Roger.

Sad that some poor bastard is going to have to look at that Nixon tattoo of Nixon just to get his rocks off.

Isn't that cruel and unusual punishment???

 

[wolfsgirl]

Roger who? Never heard of ‘em.

Isn't that the guy who brought coffee on the days that the other guy that brought coffee was off?

 

[GDViking]

Wonder how his cellmate will like that tat of Nixon on his bare back?

Aww you beat me to it and I did not see it, props....

 

[Keridan]

No, his administration had the most villians, but Reagan was never the kindhearted, grandfatherly figure that many try and paint him out to be.

Not even remotely. Racist as hell, and a former stooge for the FBI.

I didn't deny he had his problems, but he is not the point of this thread, dropping that subject myself

 

[ludin]

This administration may end with the largest number of former members in jail.

And people seem to somehow think the Trump administration isn't fundamentally criminal.

because he was fired before hand and not part of the trump campaign afterward.
and because the mueller report said they weren't.

i have all of the mueller report conclusions here if you want them.
i save them for such occasions.

 

[calamity]

Just came across CNN - Roger Stone found guilty on multiple counts.

Collusion just scored a few more points.

 

[GDViking]

Sure you can. The Reagan administration is still the reigning champion in corruption in terms of convictions, trials, etc....

Really I thought Nixon still lead in convictions???

Funny I did like trump sr as a president, mainly because I think he realized he had been played in Iran contra....

 

[GDViking]

because he was fired before hand and not part of the trump campaign afterward.
and because the mueller report said they weren't.

i have all of the mueller report conclusions here if you want them.
i save them for such occasions.

Okay please list the 120 counts of trumps staff colluding with Russian operatives and the ten counts of slam dunk obstruction, oh and don't forget that Russia unquestionably interfered in our election to insure trumps election.

Please by all means pull out the actual Mueller report.

Don't waste your time with the bull**** Barr memo...

 

[Craig234]

Reagan wasn't the hero many remember him as, but he wasn't the villain many paint him as either

Actually, he was a lot more of a villain than most people know. He was a pioneer of: lies, he put the country on the road to plutocracy with massive debt to give tax cuts to the rich and let them own our political system, he backed illegal war and death squads, his campaign asked Iran not to release the hostages and there was the Iran-Contra scandal, he appointed people like Ed Meese, James Watt, Ann Gorsuch, ten top people charged...

Remember when the US allied with Saddam, supporting his wrong, illegal war on Iran that caused a million Iranian casualties, while lying about it, and helping Saddam get WMD? Ya, that was Reagan.

Reagan began 'trickle down', embracing plutocrats like Grover Norquist, pushing the false economics (his own VP called them 'voodoo economics') of people like Laffer with the 'Laffer curve' supposedly showing tax cuts for the rich would increase taxes and help the country.

Hell, he even lost a historic opportunity with Gorbachev to ban nuclear weapons.

 

[Craig234]

don't forget that Russia unquestionably interfered in our election to insure trumps election.

AND that trump welcomed the Russian interference.

 

[beefheart]

Hey, remember how many people from Obama's administration were convicted?

Zero

 

[Fletch]

This administration may end with the largest number of former members in jail.

And people seem to somehow think the Trump administration isn't fundamentally criminal.

Stone was never a member of the Trump Administration.

 

[Slyfox696]

Stone was never a member of the Trump Administration.

That is true. Stone was just working with the Trump campaign to coordinate campaign efforts in concert with the release of Russian hacked material.

But you are correct, Stone did not work in the Trump Administration, he was just part of the Trump campaign's efforts to collude with Russia.

 

[Craig234]

Stone was never a member of the Trump Administration.

He was a close advisor and ally, not officially appointed. Like Bebe Robozo and Nixon. I'd say like Ivanka and Jared, but they ARE absurdly appointed.

 

[Fletch]

That is true. Stone was just working with the Trump campaign to coordinate campaign efforts in concert with the release of Russian hacked material.

But you are correct, Stone did not work in the Trump Administration, he was just part of the Trump campaign's efforts to collude with Russia.

No, that would be collusion with Wikileaks. They, after all, were the ones with the emails and Stone wanted to know what was coming and when. Sorry, thats not a crime.

 

[Slyfox696]

No, that would be collusion with Wikileaks.

Which was releasing Russian hacked material. Like I said. :shrug:

They, after all, were the ones with the emails

Which they received from Russia. Like I said. :shrug:

and Stone wanted to know what was coming and when. Sorry, thats not a crime.

Lying about it is a crime however. That's why he's been convicted of crimes today. He was lying about what he did to help protect Trump's actions during the campaign.

 

[Yakshi]

Can somebody interrupt Fletch's juggling long enough to teach him that noncrimes are not crimes and that crimes are crimes?

 

[Slyfox696]

Can somebody interrupt Fletch's juggling long enough to teach him that noncrimes are not crimes and that crimes are crimes?

I find Trump defenders rarely let facts, logic or definitions of words impede their arguments.

 

[Yakshi]

I find Trump defenders rarely let facts, logic or definitions of words impede their arguments.

"Yeah, but Friday is not Saturday, collusion is not a crime, I have no comments whatsoever about any actual crimes that a jury might or might not have rendered judgments on today, ice cream is not hot dogs, so you have nothing. Now please excuse me while I continue smashing my face against this rock. Dumb libs."

 

[Craig234]

I find Trump defenders rarely let facts, logic or definitions of words impede their arguments.

They're very good at cherry picking the very few things they can twist to their side and ignoring what doesn't fit their lies. E.g., Benghazi proves Hillary collaberated with the killers of Americans, and lies to the American people about her murder of them. All they need is the 'fact' that she was in office and four Americans were killed, and they 'fill in the blanks'.