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Rep. Lee Zeldin: Upcoming impeachment hearings should be postponed due to new development

Jack Hays said:
I have never claimed Trump is wise, but he has strengthened our defense capabilities, and Ukraine's.


Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, second from right, and Interior Minister Arsen Avakov, pointing, observe drills. (EPA-EFE/Shutterstock)





[h=2]U.S. military aid bolsters Ukraine’s front lines, but the Trump drama makes Kyiv nervous[/h]President Trump’s hold on aid did not seriously disrupt Ukraine’s military. The real fallout has been one of perception among Ukrainian officials and others — the worry that the White House cannot always be counted on to be in Kyiv’s corner.

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Nonsense.The damage has been done and this administration has placed restrictions on the use of some of these lethal aid weapons that render their use on the front lines impractical.
 
Marine Electric said:
"Lee" is a girls name.

:coffeepap
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You are REALLY reaching here.

Lee is a given name derived from the English surname Lee (which is ultimately from a placename derived from Old English leah "clearing; meadow"). As the surname of Robert E. Lee (1807–1870), the name became popular in the American South after the Civil War, its popularity peaking in 1900 at rank 39 as a masculine name, and in 1955 at rank 182 as a feminine name. The name's popularity declined steadily in the second half of the 20th century, falling below rank 1000 by 1991 as a feminine name, and to 666 as of 2012 as a masculine name.[SUP][1][/SUP] In the later 20th century, it also gained some popularity in the United Kingdom, peaking among the 20 most popular boys' names during the 1970s to 1980s, but it had fallen out of the top 100 by 2001.[SUP][2][/SUP]
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Since that name has, historically, been more popular as a given name for males than females.

But, I guess - when you haven't anything else - going with an implication of homosexuality does as well as anything else.

PS - Will give you that your "'Lee' is a girls name." beats "He's a poopypants." by quite a wide margin.
 
Marine Electric said:
Is she a tennis player from the 70's?

:confused:
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I think that you have in mind the Lee Atwater who is a certified tennis coach that offers tennis lessons in Eugene Ashley High School, 555 Halyburton Memorial Parkway, Wilmington, North Carolina.

Unfortunately, if you do, then it would appear that you are suffering from a slight case of "gender confusion".
 
Why would republicans be pushing for transcripts to be released and for public hearings when that's clearly gone so well for them so far?
 
iguanaman said:
LOL This picture says it all....

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You appear to have missed the point that those people were NOT convicted of "ANY" crime.

They were convicted of SPECIFIC crimes and that means that saying that they were not convicted of any crime is factually correct.
 
Jack Hays said:
His approval on 538 has not dropped at all. Meanwhile, Dem candidates remain unknown.
In the Senate, Repubs will control witness lists and scheduling.
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Mr. Trumps' approval rating has (with the exception of two weeks during his first two months in office) fallen outside of the 39.5 ± 3.5% range.

I seriously doubt that there is going to be much "erosion" of that approval rating (or much gain either), but do not rule out the possibility of a "plummet".
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
You are REALLY reaching here.

Lee is a given name derived from the English surname Lee (which is ultimately from a placename derived from Old English leah "clearing; meadow"). As the surname of Robert E. Lee (1807–1870), the name became popular in the American South after the Civil War, its popularity peaking in 1900 at rank 39 as a masculine name, and in 1955 at rank 182 as a feminine name. The name's popularity declined steadily in the second half of the 20th century, falling below rank 1000 by 1991 as a feminine name, and to 666 as of 2012 as a masculine name.[SUP][1][/SUP] In the later 20th century, it also gained some popularity in the United Kingdom, peaking among the 20 most popular boys' names during the 1970s to 1980s, but it had fallen out of the top 100 by 2001.[SUP][2][/SUP]
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Since that name has, historically, been more popular as a given name for males than females.

But, I guess - when you haven't anything else - going with an implication of homosexuality does as well as anything else.

PS - Will give you that your "'Lee' is a girls name." beats "He's a poopypants." by quite a wide margin.
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Atomic Kid said:
Nonsense.The damage has been done and this administration has placed restrictions on the use of some of these lethal aid weapons that render their use on the front lines impractical.
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Sorry, but that is uninformed nonsense. From the WaPo link:

". . . Powerful night-vision devices remove the cover of darkness. Counterartillery radar detects and pinpoints the batteries during firing. Surveillance drones, troubled at first by Russian hacking when introduced in 2016, have since proved their worth, Col. Yevhen Bondar said.

It all came from the United States, over the course of five years and part of about $4 billion in military and security assistance designed to counter the Moscow-backed separatist rebellion in eastern Ukraine’s Donbas region.



“It’s helped us significantly,” Bondar said. In the Ukrainian colonel’s view, simply providing an army with modern equipment is in itself a deterrent to an aggressor. . . . "
 
Jack Hays said:
Sorry, but that is uninformed nonsense. From the WaPo link:

". . . Powerful night-vision devices remove the cover of darkness. Counterartillery radar detects and pinpoints the batteries during firing. Surveillance drones, troubled at first by Russian hacking when introduced in 2016, have since proved their worth, Col. Yevhen Bondar said.

It all came from the United States, over the course of five years and part of about $4 billion in military and security assistance designed to counter the Moscow-backed separatist rebellion in eastern Ukraine’s Donbas region.



“It’s helped us significantly,” Bondar said. In the Ukrainian colonel’s view, simply providing an army with modern equipment is in itself a deterrent to an aggressor. . . . "
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The night vision and counter artillery was provided by the Obama Administration. The javelins Ukraine covets however come with the stipulation that they have to be stored hundreds of miles from the front line.
 
OscarLevant said:
I will, but in the future, it's courtesy to post a link
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TU Curmudgeon said:
Mr. Trumps' approval rating has (with the exception of two weeks during his first two months in office) fallen outside of the 39.5 ± 3.5% range.

I seriously doubt that there is going to be much "erosion" of that approval rating (or much gain either), but do not rule out the possibility of a "plummet".
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538 has had him between 40 and 42 forever. Today is 41.4.
 
Jack Hays said:
Sorry, but that is uninformed nonsense. From the WaPo link:

". . . Powerful night-vision devices remove the cover of darkness. Counterartillery radar detects and pinpoints the batteries during firing. Surveillance drones, troubled at first by Russian hacking when introduced in 2016, have since proved their worth, Col. Yevhen Bondar said.

It all came from the United States, over the course of five years and part of about $4 billion in military and security assistance designed to counter the Moscow-backed separatist rebellion in eastern Ukraine’s Donbas region.



“It’s helped us significantly,” Bondar said. In the Ukrainian colonel’s view, simply providing an army with modern equipment is in itself a deterrent to an aggressor. . . . "
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The Javelins, however,; may not be. Nice uninformed nonsense you've got there.

Javelin Missiles at the Heart of Impeachment Scandal Hold More Political Than Military Significance for Ukraine, Experts Say
 
Atomic Kid said:
The night vision and counter artillery was provided by the Obama Administration. The javelins Ukraine covets however come with the stipulation that they have to be stored hundreds of miles from the front line.
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Military aid programs span administrations as a matter of routine. Obama denied Javelins; Trump approved them.

[FONT=&quot]". . . In March 2018, Mr. Trump approved the $47 million sale of 210 [/FONT]Javelin[FONT=&quot] anti-tank missiles and 37 launchers to Ukraine. It was the first lethal military assistance that the U.S. provided to Ukraine in the separatist war. The Obama administration repeatedly expressed reluctance to sell the [/FONT]Javelin[FONT=&quot] and other lethal weaponry to Kyiv for fear of provoking Russia and expanding the conflict. . . ."[/FONT]

Javelin missiles for Ukraine at center of Trump impeachment ...


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Oct 8, 2019 - A powerful U.S. anti-armor missile prized for its ability to knock out the world's ... Ukraine's desire for tank-killing Javelin missiles at center of ...
 
Jack Hays said:
The missiles, as and where they are deployed, are providing exactly the intended boost to Ukrainian security, as your own link concedes.
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No, my link clearly shows that they're stored in the west, hundreds of miles from where they're actually needed.

" Experts say the conditions of the sale render them useless in the event of a sustained low-level assault—the kind of attack Ukraine is most likely to face from Russia. "

Thanks fer tryin'!
 
Jack Hays said:
Military aid programs span administrations as a matter of routine. Obama denied Javelins; Trump approved them.

[FONT="]". . . In March 2018, Mr. Trump approved the $47 million sale of 210 [/FONT][/COLOR][URL="https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/javelin/"]Javelin[/URL][FONT="] anti-tank missiles and 37 launchers to Ukraine. It was the first lethal military assistance that the U.S. provided to Ukraine in the separatist war. The Obama administration repeatedly expressed reluctance to sell the [/FONT][/COLOR][URL="https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/javelin/"]Javelin[/URL][FONT="] and other lethal weaponry to Kyiv for fear of provoking Russia and expanding the conflict. . . ."[/FONT][/COLOR]

[FONT=arial][URL="https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/oct/8/javelin-missiles-ukraine-center-trump-impeachment-/"]Javelin missiles for Ukraine at center of Trump impeachment ...


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Oct 8, 2019 - A powerful U.S. anti-armor missile prized for its ability to knock out the world's ... Ukraine's desire for tank-killing Javelin missiles at center of ...
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Javelin Missiles at the Heart of Impeachment Scandal Hold More Political Than Military Significance for Ukraine, Experts Say
 
Tanngrisnir said:
No, my link clearly shows that they're stored in the west, hundreds of miles from where they're actually needed.

" Experts say the conditions of the sale render them useless in the event of a sustained low-level assault—the kind of attack Ukraine is most likely to face from Russia. "

Thanks fer tryin'!
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No one worries about a "sustained low-level assault." The Ukrainians can handle that just fine. It's a large escalation the Javelins are intended to deter. The link notes there has not been a tank battle since 2015; the Javelins, just by being in Ukraine, help keep it that way.

". . . Experts and military officials agree that the Trump administration’s decision to provide the Javelin, a shoulder-mounted precision missile system that can take out tanks and other armored vehicles, to Ukraine has been a significant contribution to the country’s security. And amid allegations that Trump might have held up military aid to Ukraine, news reports on Tuesday indicated that the U.S. State Department approved the sale of a further $39 million worth of Javelins. The move would add another 150 missiles to the 210 the United States sent last year—the first sale of its kind to Kyiv.
Gen. Tod Wolters, the head of U.S. European Command, said Thursday at the Pentagon that Ukrainian soldiers welcomed the arrival of the first tranche of missiles, as well as U.S. and NATO training on how to use them.
“You see a little bit of a bounce in the step of a Ukrainian soldier when he or she has had the opportunity to embrace this system that allows them to better defend their turf,” Wolters said, noting that U.S. and NATO military teams traveled to Ukraine this summer to teach the armed forces there how to better use the new weapon. . . . "
 
Jack Hays said:
No one worries about a "sustained low-level assault." The Ukrainians can handle that just fine. It's a large escalation the Javelins are intended to deter. The link notes there has not been a tank battle since 2015; the Javelins, just by being in Ukraine, help keep it that way.

". . . Experts and military officials agree that the Trump administration’s decision to provide the Javelin, a shoulder-mounted precision missile system that can take out tanks and other armored vehicles, to Ukraine has been a significant contribution to the country’s security. And amid allegations that Trump might have held up military aid to Ukraine, news reports on Tuesday indicated that the U.S. State Department approved the sale of a further $39 million worth of Javelins. The move would add another 150 missiles to the 210 the United States sent last year—the first sale of its kind to Kyiv.
Gen. Tod Wolters, the head of U.S. European Command, said Thursday at the Pentagon that Ukrainian soldiers welcomed the arrival of the first tranche of missiles, as well as U.S. and NATO training on how to use them.
“You see a little bit of a bounce in the step of a Ukrainian soldier when he or she has had the opportunity to embrace this system that allows them to better defend their turf,” Wolters said, noting that U.S. and NATO military teams traveled to Ukraine this summer to teach the armed forces there how to better use the new weapon. . . . "
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But, of course, they do worry about that, and the Javelins are useless while in storage 100s of miles away.

Hey, thanks again fer tryin'!
 
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