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Religious people try to force god onto children in school

Bassman said:
Nope. My faith does not belong in church. It belongs in every aspect of my life, public and private. So bugger off!
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Like your penis belongs in your pants in public, keep it to yourself. No buggering off necessary.
 
Bassman said:
And I told you that is in violation to The Great Commission as set forth in Matthew 28.
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That is not US law, it's superstition and doesn't belong in politics. You seem to be fully aware of your right to believe whatever you like but are slow to understand the responsibility not to perpetuate crazy ****. You can't have it both ways.
 
D_NATURED said:
That is not US law, it's superstition and doesn't belong in politics. You seem to be fully aware of your right to believe whatever you like but are slow to understand the responsibility not to perpetuate crazy ****. You can't have it both ways.
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sure we can. The 1st Amendment guarantees government not interfere with the church. Syas nothing about the church influencing the government, though. So take your Communistic fallacy and shove it where the Sun does not shine.

Sure we can.
 
Bassman said:
sure we can. The 1st Amendment guarantees government not interfere with the church. Syas nothing about the church influencing the government, though. So take your Communistic fallacy and shove it where the Sun does not shine.

Sure we can.
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How's that prayer in school going. Lol
 
D_NATURED said:
YES! They passed a law, changing the motto from E Pluribus Unum, which was the original motto, making IGWT the "official" motto by an act of congress, a law. They shat all over the constitution in order to placate religious fanatics who also happened to be very vocal anti-communists. Their justification was to distinguish us from the godless commies. What they did, though, is remove the distinction between us and the theocracy that our founders worked hard to avoid having created. And, the right-wing tradition of shamelessly injecting their religious opinions into our secular laws continues.

Clearly, religion is a greater threat to rational governance than rational governance is to religion. No government has successfully suppressed religion but religion HAS successfully turned our government into a fantasy land. I am willing to support your right to believe something I find laughably juvenile, I'm just not willing to let you enshrine those fantasies into law. That is where the line must be defended by both sides.
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You do realize that the motto was voted in unanimously, right?
 
Bassman said:
sure we can. The 1st Amendment guarantees government not interfere with the church. Syas nothing about the church influencing the government, though. So take your Communistic fallacy and shove it where the Sun does not shine.

Sure we can.
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Why don't you stick your theocratic fantasy somewhere similar? When religion rules the government you get results like Iran and Saudi Arabia, you know, the dumbest, cruelest places on earth. You may be dumb and cruel enough to be happy in that kind of place but most of us aren't.
 
Maccabee said:
You do realize that the motto was voted in unanimously, right?
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You realize that it doesn't matter, right? They didn't change the 1st amendment, they just ignored it.
 
D_NATURED said:
You realize that it doesn't matter, right? They didn't change the 1st amendment, they just ignored it.
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I'm just saying that it wasn't a right wing conspiracy of some sort.
 
Somerville said:
Nope, I don't know that it was a unanimous vote. Can you provide a link supporting your statement?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_God_We_Trust

"During the Cold War era, the government of the United States sought to distinguish itself from the Soviet Union, which promoted state atheism and thus implemented antireligious legislation.[26] The 84th Congress passed a joint resolution "declaring IN GOD WE TRUST the national motto of the United States". The resolution passed both the House and the Senate unanimously and without debate.[27][28] The law was signed by President Eisenhower on July 30, 1956.[29] The United States Code at 36 U.S.C. § 302, now states: "'In God we trust' is the national motto."
 
mike2810 said:
I am just curious on why "In God We Trust" is such an issue today. The motto has been in place for years. How would removing the phrase from schools, money, etc make a difference in peoples lives?

Shouldn't we be working on more important issues?
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You're missing the point, the point is not to placate anybody's religious beliefs or lack of religious beliefs, the point is to erase our history. Read 1984.
 
it's just me said:
You're missing the point, the point is not to placate anybody's religious beliefs or lack of religious beliefs, the point is to erase our history. Read 1984.
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1984. Now that brings back memories of high school reading.
 
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