Rashida Tlaib stands by Israel and Holocaust comments amid criticism

[D_NATURED]

Well, Tlaib, Omar and AOC don't respond well to criticism, rather, they play the victim card to silence those who voice their disagreement and in many cases, disgust with her comments.
I read the article (didn't watch the video) and frankly, her words are a bunch of gobbledeegook. I think she's trying to say that "her ancestors", meaning her as a Palestinian, should just be told "thank you" for allowing Jews to live in Israel, after they lost half their numbers through systematic genocide.

Does the Jewish genocide entitle them to do whatever they want to whomever? Why didn't they just take Florida or New Jersey? If they had, would you defend their actions to the people whose property was subject to this grief annexation? You guys make no sense, you just hypocritically play the victim card on Israel's behalf and expect everyone else to honor it.

 

[PeteEU]

Fascinating.


You of all people never seemed to have any interest in Trump's full interview on Charlottesville.


Here it is so you and your merry band of libs can quit taking Trump out of context.

Full text: Trump’s comments on white supremacists, ‘alt-left’ in Charlottesville - POLITICO

And he did say it and did mean exactly what he said. People who protest with Neo Nazi Scum are in fact Neo Nazi Scum at worst or at best Neo Nazi Scum sympathisers. One has to ask, why so many on the right are defending Trump and hence the Neo Nazi scum on this..

 

[dobieg]

lmao very said that this is your response considering that Trump said there were fine people at a neo nazi rally

.....like I said.

 

[dobieg]

And he did say it and did mean exactly what he said. People who protest with Neo Nazi Scum are in fact Neo Nazi Scum at worst or at best Neo Nazi Scum sympathisers. One has to ask, why so many on the right are defending Trump and hence the Neo Nazi scum on this..

Here's the press conference. Quote it in context and I'll return the favor by quoting Tlaib and others on your side in context.

Full text: Trump’s comments on white supremacists, ‘alt-left’ in Charlottesville - POLITICO

 

[sangha]

Well, to be clear, j brown's body, she can say whatever she wants. While words certainly matter, I am more interested in how people act. At the end of the day she is pro-BDS and anti-Israel. She is no friend of Israel (I would not expect her to be). She is no friend to Jews, but she is a friend and colleague of those who do hate Jews and Israel both. She is no friend to those who want to see Israel remain a safe and secure law-governed country.

And to be clear, she does not have to be. But I am not going to be put to sleep either by her or her ardent apologists.

Plenty of Jews, including Israelis, are pro-BDS.

She's pro-Israel which is why she wants a one state solution

 

[Deuce]

Does the Jewish genocide entitle them to do whatever they want to whomever? Why didn't they just take Florida or New Jersey? If they had, would you defend their actions to the people whose property was subject to this grief annexation? You guys make no sense, you just hypocritically play the victim card on Israel's behalf and expect everyone else to honor it.

I'm actually ok with giving up New Jersey or Florida. Doesn't even have to be to the Jewish people. We could just, like, get rid of them.

 

[Khayembii Communique]

.....like I said.

"TRUMP: Excuse me, they didn't put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group – excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down, of to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name."

There you go. Fine people on both sides of a neo nazi rally. Fine people at what Wikipedia describes thusly:

"The Unite the Right rally[4] was a white supremacist[5][6][7][8] rally that occurred in Charlottesville, Virginia, from August 11 to 12, 2017.[9][10] Protesters were members of the far-right and included self-identified members of the alt-right,[11] neo-Confederates,[12] neo-fascists,[13] white nationalists,[14] neo-Nazis,[15] Klansmen,[16] and various militias.[17] The marchers[citation needed] chanted racist and antisemitic slogans, carried semi-automatic rifles, Nazi and neo-Nazi symbols (such as the swastika, Odal rune, Black Sun, and Iron Cross), the Valknut, Confederate battle flags, Deus Vult crosses, flags and other symbols of various past and present anti-Muslim and antisemitic groups.[18][8][9][19][20][21][22] Within the Charlottesville area, the rally is often known as A12[23] or 8/12.[24] The organizers' stated goals included unifying the American white nationalist movement[11] and to oppose removing a statue of Robert E. Lee from Charlottesville's Lee Park.[21][25]"

 

[Roadvirus]

As much as I hate this woman, I honestly think she was taken out of context.

He mistake was the wording. She should never have said "...calming feeling..." either. That was what burned her the most. She should've known better, considering the kind of scrutiny she is already under for her known Anti-Israel views.

 

[Herkamer63]

Has no one mention about AOC's sorry excuse of backtracking on her "12 years to live" claim about climate change!? REALLY!? That's the best post this past weekend!

"This is a technique of the GOP, to take dry humor + sarcasm literally and “fact check” it. Like the “world ending in 12 years” thing, you’d have to have the social intelligence of a sea sponge to think it’s literal. But the GOP is basically Dwight from The Office so who knows." - Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

I'd rather talk about that, but okay, I'll make it quick. Rashida Tlaib is dumb, racist, angry, anti-Semitic, whiny bitch. Why her district voted for this woman is beyond me, from a common sense stand point. Although, today's Left wing, common sense does not compute with them. Otherwise, this chick wouldn't be in ANY position of power. I think her, Ilhan Omar, and AOC are in competition with each other to see who's truly the dumbest, most anti-Semitic, most anti-Israel, and most anti-American Congresswoman out there, while trying to sound smart (but failing miserably). Seriously, I don't know how else to slice this. What's terrifying and sad is these 3 women have real support.

 

[Deuce]

Has no one mention about AOC's sorry excuse of backtracking on her "12 years to live" claim about climate change!? REALLY!? That's the best post this past weekend!

Can you post the original context of her using that phrase? After all, evaluating her statement there would require it. So why didn't you post iit?

 

[OpportunityCost]

Okay, the Right is on a campaign to smear our young Muslim congress-women as anti-semitic it appears. Given that she didn't make the "calming" statement in a vaccum we have more of what she meant here:



It's hilarious how the right will flip on a dime when it comes to considering others perspectives. If we have Palestinian-American congresspeople they will bring a different perspective to the conversation. Tlaib's views are colored by how history has impacted her people. Also, she clearly states she's coming from a place of peace and equality and that she wants a safe haven for Jews.

Meanwhile actual Neo-Nazi's in America vote Republican and support Donald Trump. You guys are hilarious. Calling this "calming" statement out in order to misinterpret what is in Tlaib's heart, while bending over backwards to defend Candace Owen's statement about Hitler being fine if he would've just stayed in his country. To be clear, I don't think either person harbors Nazi like sentiments towards Jews. I just find it ridiculous the double standard for when a Democrat misspeaks compared to Candace Owens.

How soon people forget. The Palestinians sided with Hitler in WW2, her ancestors actively worked to kill as many Jews as possible before the formation of Israel. I think she harbors a great deal of hate towards Jews and covers it somewhat well, but the mask slips sometimes.

She is essentially culturally appropriating the holocaust as being perpetrated against her people because they were ousted from the UN drawn Jewish homeland after her ancestors tried to murder them in collaboration with the Nazis. It doesn't get much more deluded than that.

 

[Deuce]

How soon people forget. The Palestinians sided with Hitler in WW2, her ancestors actively worked to kill as many Jews as possible before the formation of Israel. I think she harbors a great deal of hate towards Jews and covers it somewhat well, but the mask slips sometimes.

She is essentially culturally appropriating the holocaust as being perpetrated against her people because they were ousted from the UN drawn Jewish homeland after her ancestors tried to murder them in collaboration with the Nazis. It doesn't get much more deluded than that.

I knew the SJW crowd would insert themselves somehow. "Cultural appropriation." :lamo

 

[OpportunityCost]

I knew the SJW crowd would insert themselves somehow. "Cultural appropriation." :lamo

Ill make it quite plain, she is stating the holocaust is occurring to Palestinians because they are being denied entry to Israel when 3 generations ago those same people sided with Hitler to kill Middle East Jews.

Its really despicable, but keep laughing your ass off, seems entirely appropriate.

 

[j brown's body]

How soon people forget. The Palestinians sided with Hitler in WW2, her ancestors actively worked to kill as many Jews as possible before the formation of Israel. I think she harbors a great deal of hate towards Jews and covers it somewhat well, but the mask slips sometimes.

She is essentially culturally appropriating the holocaust as being perpetrated against her people because they were ousted from the UN drawn Jewish homeland after her ancestors tried to murder them in collaboration with the Nazis. It doesn't get much more deluded than that.

European Christians sided with Hitler as well, and killed a lot more Jews that the Palestinians ever could.

Our support for a homeland for the Jews far away from us allows us to assuage our own guilt for the Holocaust.

 

[Deuce]

Ill make it quite plain, she is stating the holocaust is occurring to Palestinians because they are being denied entry to Israel when 3 generations ago those same people sided with Hitler to kill Middle East Jews.

Its really despicable, but keep laughing your ass off, seems entirely appropriate.

She didn't say the holocaust is "occurring to Palestinians."
But keep making things up. Seems entirely appropriate.

 

[Winston]

My 'original claim' is that Israel is surrounded by vast numbers of sworn enemies who wish to destroy it and kill Jews. You support the Arabs intentions, I do not. And you still think that Judaism and Islam are 'races' thus removing and requirement to listen to you.

Laughable that a conservative would whine about a politically incorrect term in order to save face from conceding a point.


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[j brown's body]

Even CNN is pushing back on Tlaib's comments and revisionist history.

Being wrong about history is not the same as being antisemitic - but the charge just doesn't carry as much emotion.

I wonder what future that state has. With its religious nationalism and land grabs, it seems rather grim.

 

[Acadia]

Ill make it quite plain, she is stating the holocaust is occurring to Palestinians because they are being denied entry to Israel when 3 generations ago those same people sided with Hitler to kill Middle East Jews.

Its really despicable, but keep laughing your ass off, seems entirely appropriate.

If that's what Tlaib is saying, she's even more despicable than I thought.
Just like Omar. Some people did some things and we're the victims.

 

[OpportunityCost]

She didn't say the holocaust is "occurring to Palestinians."
But keep making things up. Seems entirely appropriate.

Didn't she?

"I mean, just all of it was in the name of trying to create a safe haven for Jews, post-the Holocaust, post-the tragedy and the horrific persecution of Jews across the world at that time, and I love the fact that it was my ancestors that provided that, right, in many ways. But they did it in a way that took their human dignity away, right, and it was forced on them. And so when I think about a one-state, I think about the fact that, why couldn't we do it in a better way?"

When asked whether advocating for a one-state solution could be seen as reckless, Tlaib replied, "No, I'm coming from a place of love, for equality and justice, I truly am."
"I want a safe haven for Jews," she added. "Who doesn't want to be safe? I am humbled by the fact that it was my ancestors that had to suffer for that to happen, but I will not turn my back and allow others to hijack it and say that it's some extremist approach because they're coming from a place of... whatever it is... of division, inequality."

Her ancestors were complicit in murderous genocide, they deserved to suffer. **** her victim card.

 

[Acadia]

Being wrong about history is not the same as being antisemitic - but the charge just doesn't carry as much emotion.

I wonder what future that state has. With its religious nationalism and land grabs, it seems rather grim.

Since Israel is our close ally in the Middle East, we'd better hope its future isn't grim. As long as Trump is POTUS, he'll work to see that doesn't happen.

 

[Winston]

How soon people forget. The Palestinians sided with Hitler in WW2, her ancestors actively worked to kill as many Jews as possible before the formation of Israel. I think she harbors a great deal of hate towards Jews and covers it somewhat well, but the mask slips sometimes.

She is essentially culturally appropriating the holocaust as being perpetrated against her people because they were ousted from the UN drawn Jewish homeland after her ancestors tried to murder them in collaboration with the Nazis. It doesn't get much more deluded than that.

And Japan sided with Hitler in WW2. What's your point?

 

[OpportunityCost]

And Japan sided with Hitler in WW2. What's your point?

Its extremely hypocritical for her to complain about where Israel is geographically, its there because her ancestors tried to murder the Jewish people wholesale. The UN made the decision based in part on that fact and decided on the location to restore the Jewish homeland.

If her ancestors weren't genocidal bastards maybe they would still have their land.

 

[Winston]

Its extremely hypocritical for her to complain about where Israel is geographically, its there because her ancestors tried to murder the Jewish people wholesale. The UN made the decision based in part on that fact and decided on the location to restore the Jewish homeland.

If her ancestors weren't genocidal bastards maybe they would still have their land.

First of all, many Palestinians have been felled and dispossessed at Jewish hands as well. Americans either forget that, or are wholly ignorant, through no fault of their own. And now that Tlaib is here to voice an opposing viewpoint, the right is going to be upset because they don't like her viewpoint.

Second of all, she's not complaining about Israel. She's advocating for a one state solution that includes the Jews. She's not advocating to kick the Jews out, rather bring everyone together. Lots of things can be dug up from the past in order point fingers, if that's your prerogative to live in the past and continue to cheer on rivalry and division, by all means. But, Tlaib and others like her have no use for it.

 

[Winston]

Even CNN is pushing back on Tlaib's comments and revisionist history.

CNN :lamo now, you cite CNN? Which is it again? Fake News CNN or, valiant, shrewd CNN asking the tough questions, :lamo

 

[OpportunityCost]

First of all, many Palestinians have been felled and dispossessed at Jewish hands as well. Americans either forget that, or are wholly ignorant, through no fault of their own. And now that Tlaib is here to voice an opposing viewpoint, the right is going to be upset because they don't like her viewpoint.

Second of all, she's not complaining about Israel. She's advocating for a one state solution that includes the Jews. She's not advocating to kick the Jews out, rather bring everyone together. Lots of things can be dug up from the past in order point fingers, if that's your prerogative to live in the past and continue to cheer on rivalry and division, by all means. But, Tlaib and others like her have no use for it.

Well that's a load of manure. She is actively bringing up the past by saying her ancestors suffered and failing to bring up the important reason WHY. I elaborate on her revision of the past and you accuse me of living in the past because she is trying to whitewash things. I can't tell which is phonier, your rebuttal or her original statement.