Racial uproar explodes among 2020 Democrats as rivals attack Biden for comments about segregationist

[jmotivator]

You missed the point of my argument which is your claim is nonsense when some blacks were lynched just for attempting to vote....

You also need to read global history in general to see how oppressive regimes and dictatorships which stage elections to show hoe democratic they are get results of the order of 80% and 90%

I didn't miss your point, you point makes no sense. Regardless of the vote before or after CRA they voted Democrat before and after. The assertion that they voted Democrat after CRA because of Nixon dog whistles is just plain stupid given that it was all the same Democrats AFTER the passing of CRA that abused them before the CRA.

If we assume that the black vote for Democrats before CRA was largely due to coercion, then why did the same blacks continue voting Democrat AFTER the CRA?

 

[pamak]

I didn't miss your point, you point makes no sense. Regardless of the vote before or after CRA they voted Democrat before and after. The assertion that they voted Democrat after CRA because of Nixon dog whistles is just plain stupid given that it was all the same Democrats AFTER the passing of CRA that abused them before the CRA.

If we assume that the black vote for Democrats before CRA was largely due to coercion, then why did the same blacks continue voting Democrat AFTER the CRA?

it makes perfect sense when even today many decades after that period we have attempts to suppress black vote according to Federal Courts rulings and the Supreme Court

One recent example

North Carolina Voter ID Law Still Struck Down, Despite Republican Appeals : The Two-Way : NPR

The U.S. Supreme Court has once again declined to reinstate North Carolina's strict voter ID law, which was struck down last year after a court ruled it was intentionally designed to stop African-Americans from voting.

And do not tell me that in real life you believe that a passage of any law can change immediately culture, such as, peer pressure, isolation of activists who have the "wrong ideas," or the manufacturing of BS excuses to impose on them penalties such as their loss of their job and so on...

By the way, based on what evidence you make claims about the black vote in the elections after the CRA? I would like to see it together with the participation rate of black voters

 

[Trump]

I didn't miss your point, you point makes no sense. Regardless of the vote before or after CRA they voted Democrat before and after. The assertion that they voted Democrat after CRA because of Nixon dog whistles is just plain stupid given that it was all the same Democrats AFTER the passing of CRA that abused them before the CRA.

If we assume that the black vote for Democrats before CRA was largely due to coercion, then why did the same blacks continue voting Democrat AFTER the CRA?

Dems have a self projection mode that helps eliminate connection to their racists past and projects it onto GOP....I call it bubble gum logic...makes no sense but simpletons repeat as defense mantra because they belong to Democratic party.

Good to try and educated uneducated about past....wish it would start in middle school.

 

[pamak]

Dems have a self projection mode that helps eliminate connection to their racists past and projects it onto GOP....I call it bubble gum logic...makes no sense but simpletons repeat as defense mantra because they belong to Democratic party.

Good to try and educated uneducated about past....wish it would start in middle school.

I do not expect intelligence from a person using an avatar and profile name designed only to invoke partisan feelings.
it is obvious that you are not here to actually have a serious debate.

 

[Trump]

I do not expect intelligence from a person using an avatar and profile name designed only to invoke partisan feelings.

....don't let words or images control you....think free:2wave:

 

[vegas giants]

Dems have a self projection mode that helps eliminate connection to their racists past and projects it onto GOP....I call it bubble gum logic...makes no sense but simpletons repeat as defense mantra because they belong to Democratic party.

Good to try and educated uneducated about past....wish it would start in middle school.

Thank God black Americans ignore this nonsense and vote Democrat. Lol

 

[pamak]

....don't let words or images control you....think free:2wave:

I am not the one who uses silly political photos and names of any candidate. I am already free from that type of partisan BS promotion. Look at the mirror!

 

[Trump]

I am not the one who uses silly political photos and names of any candidate. I am already free from that type of partisan BS promotion. Look at the mirror!

focus.....control.....don't make it personal.

you like Biden?

 

[vegas giants]

I am not the one who uses silly political photos and names of any candidate. I am already free from that type of partisan BS promotion. Look at the mirror!

He's a trumper. His responses are all programmed.

 

[pamak]

focus.....control.....don't make it personal.

you like Biden?

Do not let my words harm your feelings...

It is too early to have an opinion regarding who my favorite candidate is.

 

[Trump]

He's a trumper. His responses are all programmed.

like a stable GENIUS!:lamo

 

[vegas giants]

like a stable GENIUS!:lamo

Slogans on cue.

Not an original thought in your head. Lol

 

[Trump]

Do not let my words harm your feelings...

It is too early to have an opinion regarding my favorite candidate.

harm my feelings? ...you're mild too downright warm and fuzzy to me:lol:

 

[pamak]

harm my feelings? ...you're mild too downright warm and fuzzy to me:lol:

Apparently I did because it was you who started talking about me making things personal.
Too touchy for somebody who claims that his opposition has a bleeding heart....

 

[pamak]

Slogans on cue.

Not an original thought in your head. Lol

:lamo

The control of words ...

 

[vegas giants]

:lamo

As I said

 

[Trump]

Apparently I did because it was you who started talking about me making things personal.
Too touchy for somebody who claims that his opposition has a bleeding heart....

when you call MY name out and call MY avatar out....you make it personal and get into baiting territory...I was just trying to get you to focus..thats all..have a great dayeace

 

[pamak]

when you call MY name out and call MY avatar out....you make it personal and get into baiting territory...I was just trying to get you to focus..thats all..have a great dayeace

Then be honest about it and admit that my criticism of your avatar and name which I find it also an attempt to bait hurt your feelings. Since I am a bleeding heart socialist, I will leave it like this...

 

[JasperL]

I didn't miss your point, you point makes no sense. Regardless of the vote before or after CRA they voted Democrat before and after. The assertion that they voted Democrat after CRA because of Nixon dog whistles is just plain stupid given that it was all the same Democrats AFTER the passing of CRA that abused them before the CRA.

OK, I guess, white people in the South, conservatives, are who "abused" them pre-CRA and it didn't have anything to do with party. Most whites were Democrats, but the GOP whites had the same racial attitudes.

If we assume that the black vote for Democrats before CRA was largely due to coercion, then why did the same blacks continue voting Democrat AFTER the CRA?

Why would we assume that? In the South they just didn't get to vote at all because of 'coercion' and Jim Crow. Outside the South, blacks were not "coerced" by Democrats as a party.

The first big move for blacks to the Democrats was FDR, because of the New Deal, then Truman, who ran on a civil rights for blacks platform and who desegregated the armed forces, then post CRA and the civil rights movement.



And you keep talking about the CRA as if Democrats opposed those bills. They didn't as a party - white Democrats in the South did. Outside the South, support for the CRA and VRA was about 95% among Democrats, and it passed with a heavily Democratic House, Senate and with Democrat LBJ in the WH who threw his considerable might behind getting CRA and VRA passed. In the South, opposition to those acts was approaching 100% and it didn't have anything to do with party. 100% of Republicans in the former CSA opposed the CRA. So the split was by region, not by party.

 

[JasperL]

Dems have a self projection mode that helps eliminate connection to their racists past and projects it onto GOP....I call it bubble gum logic...makes no sense but simpletons repeat as defense mantra because they belong to Democratic party.

Good to try and educated uneducated about past....wish it would start in middle school.

The idea that the Democrats are hiding the fact that white conservatives in the South were nearly all white supremacists and not quite 100% Democratic is a right wing myth, a lie. That's common knowledge taught in the history books. They were yellow dog Democrats because Lincoln was a GD republican and southern whites were not going to support the party of that traitorous bastard.

What is also true is the Democratic party of 2019 has purged those white supremacists from the party, and who wouldn't want to belong to the party that is the home for the vast majority of black politicians and black voters.

 

[Trump]

The idea that the Democrats are hiding the fact that white conservatives in the South were nearly all white supremacists and not quite 100% Democratic is a right wing myth, a lie. That's common knowledge taught in the history books. They were yellow dog Democrats because Lincoln was a GD republican and southern whites were not going to support the party of that traitorous bastard.

What is also true is the Democratic party of 2019 has purged those white supremacists from the party, and who wouldn't want to belong to the party that is the home for the vast majority of black politicians and black voters.

FAKE NEWS.....doesn't make it true no matter how many times you repeat it....its a silly cover story for Dems racist past

 

[JasperL]

FAKE NEWS.....doesn't make it true no matter how many times you repeat it....its a silly cover story for Dems racist past

Huh, well, repeating fact free, evidence free, talking points is persuasive as heck. Great Job! Did you learn this history from Dinesh D'Souza or Prager U.?

 

[Trump]

Huh, well, repeating fact free, evidence free, talking points is persuasive as heck. Great Job! Did you learn this history from Dinesh D'Souza or Prager U.?

and you learned your history from some bigoted teachers pushing propaganda based on silly historical wives tales....Dems created KKK...Dems Started Jim Crow laws...Dems fought against Civil Rights Act...and Lincoln was member of GOP

and yet GOP is the racist party:doh:lamo

 

[JasperL]

and you learned your history from some bigoted teachers pushing propaganda based on silly historical wives tales....Dems created KKK...Dems Started Jim Crow laws...Dems fought against Civil Rights Act...and Lincoln was member of GOP

and yet GOP is the racist party:doh:lamo

I see, the Democratic House (258-176 in 1964) and the Democratic Senate (67-33) who wrote, sponsored, and passed the CRA, and with a Democratic President (LBJ) who used all his considerable muscle and the political capital post JFK assassination to pass the CRA fought against the CRA they sponsored, wrote and pushed across the finish line? That's really your position? The same Democratic party that voted approximately 95%-5% FOR the CRA outside the white, racist south?

All those things you mention were done by Democrats but more accurately by white southern conservatives, because the white Republicans and the Dixiecrats in the South also were bitterly opposed to equal rights and voting rights for blacks. It transcended party - it didn't transcend the region, and more particularly whites in the former CSA.

Here are the vote totals by region for the Civil Rights Act of 1964:

Civil Rights Act of 1964 - Wikipedia

The original House version:

Southern Democrats: 7–87 (7–93%)
Southern Republicans: 0–10 (0–100%)
Northern Democrats: 145–9 (94–6%)
Northern Republicans: 138–24 (85–15%)

The Senate version:

Southern Democrats: 1–20 (5–95%) (only Ralph Yarborough of Texas voted in favor)
Southern Republicans: 0–1 (0–100%) (John Tower of Texas)
Northern Democrats: 45–1 (98–2%) (only Robert Byrd of West Virginia voted against)
Northern Republicans: 27–5 (84–16%)

 

[Trump]

I see, the Democratic House (258-176 in 1964) and the Democratic Senate (67-33) who wrote, sponsored, and passed the CRA, and with a Democratic President (LBJ) who used all his considerable muscle and the political capital post JFK assassination to pass the CRA fought against the CRA they sponsored, wrote and pushed across the finish line? That's really your position? The same Democratic party that voted approximately 95%-5% FOR the CRA outside the white, racist south?

All those things you mention were done by Democrats but more accurately by white southern conservatives, because the white Republicans and the Dixiecrats in the South also were bitterly opposed to equal rights and voting rights for blacks. It transcended party - it didn't transcend the region, and more particularly whites in the former CSA.

Here are the vote totals by region for the Civil Rights Act of 1964:

Civil Rights Act of 1964 - Wikipedia

when you repeat lies which you're taught they're still lies....newsflash