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Quotes from George Washington on Immigration

ataraxia said:
Sometimes it helps to have a sense of historical perspective. The right is very busy these days trying to paint themselves as the protectors of the Constitution, and the will and vision of our founding fathers. So their platform in on things like limiting immigration, stopping refugees seeking asylum from war and famine struck countries, and dissolving away the separation of church and state.

But what did our founding fathers say on these issues? Here is George Washington on immigration and refugees seeking asylum here:
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No one is against immigration. We're just against ILLEGAL aliens.
 
George Washington has also said:

"It is better to offer no excuse than a bad one." Important for those pointing to others for their shortcomings.

"If freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent may we be led, like sheep to the slaughter." Important for the Dems that want to continue sensoring people for saying things they don't like/agree with.
 
Let's see if I can do this before democrats do.

"Uh no. That's a win for me because you can't acknowledge how stupid trump is and how wrong all republicans are about George Washington. This what stupid reDUMBlicans do. They misinterpret history because they don't know history.

Washington said to keep the borders open and even said the constitution had nothing to do with Christianity, so I don't know why Dumblicans keep trying to mix church and state. I'm so smart and you guys are stupid and trump is a bad guy that you stupidheads all support because you're stupid." -Democrats
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
Cool, then you have no problem with people owning m4's with high capacity magazines and silencers.
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As long as they are part of a State militia and we disband our standing army. No need for the Army since we have our State militia's.
 
BlackMatters said:
George Washington has also said:

"It is better to offer no excuse than a bad one." Important for those pointing to others for their shortcomings.

"If freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent may we be led, like sheep to the slaughter." Important for the Dems that want to continue sensoring people for saying things they don't like/agree with.
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So you are butt hurt because you can't yell fire in a crowded theater?
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
Cool, then you have no problem with people owning m4's with high capacity magazines and silencers.
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Nope. Sorry. No can do. Not even the most conservative constitutional scholars and judges are that crazy and think that’s what the Constitution meant.

”Nothing in our opinion should be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms.”
- justice Antonin Scalia, opinion on famous Heller case
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Maccabee said:
No one is against immigration. We're just against ILLEGAL aliens.
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So why ban travel by regular people? We’re not even talking about immigration here, legal or illegal.
 
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BlackMatters said:
George Washington has also said:

"It is better to offer no excuse than a bad one." Important for those pointing to others for their shortcomings.

"If freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent may we be led, like sheep to the slaughter." Important for the Dems that want to continue sensoring people for saying things they don't like/agree with.
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Calling out unconstitutional overreach is not censoring.
 
Cool, we are quoting George Washington

A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined.....
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It may be laid down as a primary position, and the basis of our system, that every Citizen who enjoys the protection of a Free Government, owes not only a proportion of his property, but even of his personal services to the defense of it.
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..“If freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.”.....
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To be prepared for war is one of the most effective means of preserving peace........
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or are we just cherry picking quotes to support our position.
 
ataraxia said:
Nope. Sorry. No can do. Not even the most conservative constitutional scholars and judges are that crazy and think that’s what the Constitution meant.
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Thats exactly what the constitution means.

An armed citizenry that can protect itself against a corrupt government is EXACTLY what the 2nd amendment is all about. It ain't about hunting like the dimwitted braindead democrats say.

Friggin' morons
 
I'm a little confused. About six months ago there was news coverage on how Washington memorials needed to come down because he was a racist slave owner. Now Washington is supposedly a great model for immigration because he welcomed all immigrants with opened arms.

Seems like people want to eat their cake and have it to with respect to who Washington was
 
ataraxia said:
Sometimes it helps to have a sense of historical perspective. The right is very busy these days trying to paint themselves as the protectors of the Constitution, and the will and vision of our founding fathers. So their platform in on things like limiting immigration, stopping refugees seeking asylum from war and famine struck countries, and dissolving away the separation of church and state.

But what did our founding fathers say on these issues? Here is George Washington on immigration and refugees seeking asylum here:
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Commie!
 
BlackMatters said:
George Washington has also said:

"It is better to offer no excuse than a bad one." Important for those pointing to others for their shortcomings.

"If freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent may we be led, like sheep to the slaughter." Important for the Dems that want to continue sensoring people for saying things they don't like/agree with.
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Dems are 'sensoring' people?
What the hell are you talking about?
 
ataraxia said:
Sometimes it helps to have a sense of historical perspective. The right is very busy these days trying to paint themselves as the protectors of the Constitution, and the will and vision of our founding fathers. So their platform in on things like limiting immigration, stopping refugees seeking asylum from war and famine struck countries, and dissolving away the separation of church and state.

But what did our founding fathers say on these issues? Here is George Washington on immigration and refugees seeking asylum here:
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Yes, Washington was definitely for immigration of the poor, the needy, and the oppressed. Know what else he was for? Legal immigration. Which is why the Constitution mentions immigration being the purview of the federal government. And why a mere 3 years after the adoption of the Constitution the nations first immigration law was passed under that Constitution was passed.

And before the Constitution, during the time of the Articles of Confederation, each state retained authority over the naturalization of aliens. IE: legal immigration.

So yeah, it does help if you have a sense of historical perspective. Only thing is you need the full perspective. Not just that which helps out your cause.
 
iguanaman said:
As long as they are part of a State militia and we disband our standing army. No need for the Army since we have our State militia's.
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That isn't what the second amendment says but it's off topic anyway.
 
Mr Person said:
What a perfect way of proving why pure originalism is necessarily and inherently BS. The Founders could not have had any intent on that question as those things did not exist. To argue that they did, you have to extrapolate about what they might have thought about such things had they existed like some dirty activist judge.
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Same with the printing press, or computers, scientology. et al.


The concept of the citizenry being able to hold the same weapons of war as a standing arming sure was, and that's the origional intent. if you believe in a living document, you are ignorant as to how this country was founded.
 
iguanaman said:
As long as they are part of a State militia and we disband our standing army. No need for the Army since we have our State militia's.
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That is an incorrect interpretation. as an interpretation is not needed, it's literal.


There is no militia requirment in the 2nd.
 
Praxas said:
Wait, so now you guys don’t want to listen to the founding fathers?
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Link to where he states unvetted, wide open immigration. Also talk about how Washington wanted to populate this great nation and statements like these were indicative of this.


He also signed the naturalization act of 1790, excluding blacks, and others.


so no, we don't always listen to them, that would be foolish.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalization_Act_of_1790
 
ataraxia said:
Nope. Sorry. No can do. Not even the most conservative constitutional scholars and judges are that crazy and think that’s what the Constitution meant.
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You can't read. what does that statement have to do with what you just so dumbly claimed.


the 2nd is about a citizenry who is equipped and well versed in the use of military personal weapons so that if the gov wanted to call up a militia, they had a pool of abled body men proficient in the use of thier arms.



silly liberals.
 
sangha said:
Just as soon as you can quote a Founding Father saying he had no problem with M4s with high capacity mags and silencers
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"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."
- Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776

"What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, December 20, 1787

"The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to John Cartwright, 5 June 1824

"I enclose you a list of the killed, wounded, and captives of the enemy from the commencement of hostilities at Lexington in April, 1775, until November, 1777, since which there has been no event of any consequence ... I think that upon the whole it has been about one half the number lost by them, in some instances more, but in others less. This difference is ascribed to our superiority in taking aim when we fire; every soldier in our army having been intimate with his gun from his infancy."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to Giovanni Fabbroni, June 8, 1778


Of course you wont find specifics of the m4, or suppressors, however to use your logic, there were neither tv, nor internet then either., so the first according to your "logic", wouldnt be covered either.
 
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