Quag and the Angel: a dialogue

[Quag]

What "I want" your definition to imply is not in question -- I've already stated what I believe your definition implies. The question you keep dodging is what do you see as the implications of your definition?

Already answered

 

[Angel]

Already answered

Really? Where? Post number will suffice.

 

[Quag]

I'm not trying to change anything in your definition. You are on record as saying that belief is nothing more than opinion. I'm trying to get you to see the implications of that definition.

Nope you are trying and failing to change thne definition you will not succeed

 

[Quag]

Really? Where? Post number will suffice.

try post 252

 

[Angel]

Nope you are trying and failing to change thne definition you will not succeed

I quoted you. Must I quote you again?

 

[Angel]

try post 252

Post #252 does not answer the question put to you as to the implications of your definition of belief as mere opinion;
Here is post #252:

So according to this you are amitting that you cannot prove God and all your efforts to do so were a waste of time. Good you can now stop making so many pointless threads
But ill play along with this and rephrase my statement
The quality of any conclusion in an argument is equal to the quality of the premises

What you say here is merely what we've both agreed on concerning logical form, that "The quality of any conclusion in an argument is equal to the quality of the premises."
The question you have not answered is what implications do you see for any argument in logical form does your definition of belief as mere opinion have?

 

[Quag]

I quoted you. Must I quote you again?

Go ahead but as before the quote does not say what you want it to say so you are wasting both our times

 

[Quag]

Post #252 does not answer the question put to you as to the implications of your definition of belief as mere opinion;
Here is post #252:

What you say here is merely what we've both agreed on concerning logical form, that "The quality of any conclusion in an argument is equal to the quality of the premises."
The question you have not answered is what implications do you see for any argument in logical form does your definition of belief as mere opinion have?

Sure it does you just refuse to accept it because it doesnt say what you want it to say
I will not let you make strawmewn so stop trying

 

[Angel]

Sure it does you just refuse to accept it because it doesnt say what you want it to say
I will not let you make strawmewn so stop trying

No, there are two different issues here: the soundness and validity of logical form (which we agree on) and the implications your definition of belief has on argument )which I have answered but you haven't).

 

[Angel]

Go ahead but as before the quote does not say what you want it to say so you are wasting both our times

God dammit, the quote says what you said. All right, I'll have to look for it again.

 

[Angel]

That is the logical conclusion of those 3 statements

Show it.

 

[Angel]

Nope you are trying and failing to change thne definition you will not succeed

I quoted you. Must I quote you again?

Go ahead but as before the quote does not say what you want it to say so you are wasting both our times

God dammit, the quote says what you said. All right, I'll have to look for it again.

Here is your post, and I quote:

I will stick to my definition of belief which is really nothing more than opinion
Any argument based on a belief or opinion results in a conclusion that is a belief or opinion.

This is Quag speaking:
"my definition of belief which is really nothing more than opinion."

 

[PTF]

Ah the usual cat and mouse game play from Quag.

 

[PTF]

God dammit, the quote says what you said. All right, I'll have to look for it again.

Don't let him get to ya. He has run out of responses so why not heckle ?

 

[Quag]

No, there are two different issues here: the soundness and validity of logical form (which we agree on) and the implications your definition of belief has on argument )which I have answered but you haven't).

Already stated that but you wont accept it because it isnt what you want it to be

 

[Quag]

God dammit, the quote says what you said. All right, I'll have to look for it again.

Yes but it doesnt say what you weant it to say

 

[Quag]

Here is your post, and I quote:

This is Quag speaking:
"my definition of belief which is really nothing more than opinion."

Again it doest say what you want ti to say
Sorry Angel no matter how hard you try I will not accept your strawman

 

[Angel]

Yes but it doesnt say what you weant it to say

I'm only interested in what you said. Why are you trying to disown it now? Have you changed your mind?

 

[Angel]

Again it doest say what you want ti to say
Sorry Angel no matter how hard you try I will not accept your strawman

Does it say what you said? Yes or no?

 

[Quag]

I'm only interested in what you said. Why are you trying to disown it now? Have you changed your mind?

I am merely rejecting your strawman

 

[Quag]

Does it say what you said? Yes or no?

What I said yes, what you want it to mean no. Your strawman will continue to be rejected

 

[Angel]

I am merely rejecting your strawman

I am trying to get you to own up to your own definition of belief. Will you do that, or are you retreating behind the false flag of a strawman?

 

[Angel]

What I said yes, what you want it to mean no. Your strawman will continue to be rejected

So you admit to saying that your "definition of belief" makes belief out as "really nothing more than opinion," yes?

 

[Quag]

I am trying to get you to own up to your own definition of belief. Will you do that, or are you retreating behind the false flag of a strawman?

False, you are tryingto get me to accept your strawman I will not

 

[Quag]

So you admit to saying that your "definition of belief" makes belief out as "really nothing more than opinion," yes?

As used in that stastment yes