Proof of God

[Daisy]

Say good night, David.

Say goodnight, Gracie...sorry, I couldn't resist...:2razz:

 

[devildavid]

Whereof one doesn't know, thereof one should remain silent.

Look to it, boss. The word "freedom" is a common noun which, when capitalized, becomes the proper noun "Freedpm."

Indeed, your own beloved "Flying Spaghetti Monster" gives the lie to your view in this matter.

Say good night, David.

The word freedom is always a common noun. Capitalizing it does not make it a proper noun. Proper nouns can be names, for one example. People's names and city's names are proper nouns and the rules of grammar are that they should be capitalized. This is basic grammar. Pretty simple and straightforward. Nowhere is there a grammatical rule that states capitalizing a common noun turns it into a proper noun.

 

[zyzygy]

The word freedom is always a common noun. Capitalizing it does not make it a proper noun. Proper nouns can be names, for one example. People's names and city's names are proper nouns and the rules of grammar are that they should be capitalized. This is basic grammar. Pretty simple and straightforward. Nowhere is there a grammatical rule that states capitalizing a common noun turns it into a proper noun.

Basic stuff that we learn in school. As for the Flying Spaghetti Monster, Angel does not seem to have heard of Moby Dick.

 

[devildavid]

Whereof one doesn't know, thereof one should remain silent.

Look to it, boss. The word "freedom" is a common noun which, when capitalized, becomes the proper noun "Freedpm."

Indeed, your own beloved "Flying Spaghetti Monster" gives the lie to your view in this matter.

Say good night, David.

And one more thing, I have never referenced the Flying Spaghetti Monster in any of my posts. So I'm not sure how you can say I have any feelings about it.

 

[Angel]

Basic stuff that we learn in school. As for the Flying Spaghetti Monster, Angel does not seem to have heard of Moby Dick.

You must have played hookey that day judging from the doubled-down ignorance of the language evidenced in this post of yours.

 

[Quag]

181 pages and still waiting for Angel to provide the proof this thread promised

 

[zyzygy]

181 pages and still waiting for Angel to provide the proof this thread promised

We will have to wait for longer than the promised return of Jesus.

 

[Angel]

A Short Proof of God
(For the Skeptic on the Go)

If God is not logically impossible, then God exists.
God is not logically impossible.
Therefore, God exists.​

A Short Proof of God 2
(For the Skeptic on the Go)


That which is inexplicable yet rational must be attributed to inexplicable rationality.
That which goes by the name "God" is Itself inexplicable rationality.
Therefore, that which is inexplicable yet rational must be attributed to that which goes by the name "God."
​

A Short Proof of God 3
(For the Skeptic on the Go)

Order implies rationality.
The universe is ordered.
Therefore, the universe implies rationality​

A Short Proof of God 4
(For the Skeptic on the Go)

That which is necessary to explain the existence of an otherwise inexplicable state of affairs is its ground.
God is that which is necessary to explain the existence of an otherwise inexplicable state of affairs.
Therefore, God is Ground.
​

Empirical Argument For God​

The experience of the person I am in the world—my consciousness, my life, and the physical world in which my conscious life appears to be set—these phenomena comprise a Stupendous Given. There's no getting around them and no getting outside them and no accounting for them from within the phenomena themselves. These phenomena point to something beyond themselves. The attempt to account for these phenomena from within the phenomena themselves has given rise to science, art and religion and the whole cultural adventure we call "civilization"—the long human struggle for purchase on the Stupendous Given. In the end, however, the only account that accords with reason is the account that infers to a Stupendous Giver. In sum, from the existence of consciousness, the existence of life, and the existence of the physical universe, the inference to the best explanation is God.
https://www.debatepolitics.com/beli...354-w-183-reasons-believe.html#post1069490983

We will have to wait for longer than the promised return of Jesus.

A Short Proof of God 5

What is not impossible is possible.
The existence of God is not impossible.
Therefore, the existence of God is possible.

But if God exists, God exists necessarily.
What exists necessarily is possible.
Therefore, if God is possible, God exists necessarily.

God is possible.
Therefore, God exists.​

 

[devildavid]

Empirical Argument For God





A Short Proof of God 5

What is not impossible is possible.
The existence of God is not impossible.
Therefore, the existence of God is possible.

But if God exists, God exists necessarily.
What exists necessarily is possible.
Therefore, if God is possible, God exists necessarily.

God is possible.
Therefore, God exists.​

Translation of line one of "Proof" 5: What is possible is possible. Wow, no kidding.

 

[zyzygy]

Translation of line one of "Proof" 5: What is possible is possible. Wow, no kidding.

You could replace the word God with the FSM. Angel has proved that His Pastaness exists!

 

[Angel]

Translation of line one of "Proof" 5: What is possible is possible. Wow, no kidding.

I kid you not: what is not impossible is possible.

 

[Angel]

You could replace the word God with the FSM. Angel has proved that His Pastaness exists!

Only someone ignorant of elementary logic would think that terms in a logical argument can be replaced at will while preserving validity and soundness.
Your attempt to do this for idyllic Northern European goblins is a matter of record of course, and a source of mirth to those who do know something about logic.

 

[devildavid]

I kid you not: what is not impossible is possible.

So it renders everything after it meaningless. Its like saying god is possible because god is possible. The word possible has a more nuanced meaning than everything that is not impossible. The word doesn't define itself.

 

[stevecanuck]

Only someone ignorant of elementary logic would think that terms in a logical argument can be replaced at will while preserving validity and soundness.
Your attempt to do this for idyllic Northern European goblins is a matter of record of course, and a source of mirth to those who do know something about logic.

Remember when you asked me what my problem was with you? Remember when I said you were condescending? This ^^^

I thought you religious types like to claim how humble you are. Guess not.

 

[Lisa]

You could replace the word God with the FSM. Angel has proved that His Pastaness exists!

Angel should be boiled until al-dente as penance for the illogical claims that he has made.

R'amen.

 

[Angel]

So it renders everything after it meaningless. Its like saying god is possible because god is possible. The word possible has a more nuanced meaning than everything that is not impossible. The word doesn't define itself.

No, it's saying that if a necessary being is not impossible, then it exists.

 

[Angel]

Remember when you asked me what my problem was with you? Remember when I said you were condescending? This ^^^

I thought you religious types like to claim how humble you are. Guess not.

I give respect where it is due and don't suffer fools gladly.
And why do you call me a "religious type"? I rarely talk about religion except to acknowledge that all religions are true.

 

[Quag]

Empirical Argument For God





A Short Proof of God 5

What is not impossible is possible.
The existence of God is not impossible.
Therefore, the existence of God is possible.

But if God exists, God exists necessarily.
What exists necessarily is possible.
Therefore, if God is possible, God exists necessarily.

God is possible.
Therefore, God exists.​

I am still waiting for proof not illogical BS based on beleifs

 

[Quag]

You could replace the word God with the FSM. Angel has proved that His Pastaness exists!

Nope because his proof doesn't prove anything aside from the fact that Angel doesn't understand logic

 

[Quag]

No, it's saying that if a necessary being is not impossible, then it exists.

There is no evidence God is a necessary being in fact the claim that there has to be a necessary being is just a belief making any "proof" based on such a claim nothing more than a belief
Ie it isn't a proof at all

VERY BASIC LOGIC HERE

 

[Quag]

I give respect where it is due and don't suffer fools gladly.

Ironic as that is the reason no one has any respect for you

 

[grip]

I received absolutely irrefutable Proof of God.

He spoke and revealed Himself to me. And I said to myself, I'm going to tell everyone, and He said, I dare you. :mrgreen:

 

[Angel]

I received absolutely irrefutable Proof of God.

He spoke and revealed Himself to me. And I said to myself, I'm going to tell everyone, and He said, I dare you. :mrgreen:

Playing "Truth or Dare" with God is a spiritual exercise introduced by Pop Guru M.L. Ciccone in the 1980s as an answer to anomie and ennui.

 

[grip]

Playing "Truth or Dare" with God is a spiritual exercise introduced by Pop Guru M.L. Ciccone in the 1980s as an answer to anomie and ennui.

I think God knew that if I went around saying to people, "Hey, I saw God and He talked to me", without Him backing it up, that they would throw me in the Hotel Silly. I have no doubt that an All Powerful deity could easily convince people of His existence.

 

[zyzygy]

I received absolutely irrefutable Proof of God.

He spoke and revealed Himself to me. And I said to myself, I'm going to tell everyone, and He said, I dare you. :mrgreen:

God always answers my prayers. It's always the same answer. 'No, zyzygy, not a chance.'