Pride

[Kurmugeon]

If you can't identify the difference between an abused minority group expressing "pride" and the dominant majority doing the same, you're part of the problem.

So...

You're reaction is...

If you don't kowtow to the Leftie scam, abuse, false-accusation, and condemnation, then you're assumed guilty of far-worse crimes, and should be punished accordingly.



Well, If that's you're position, you're entitled to it... and it is good to know.

And we, the 62% of the Voters who are working Whites, can respond, by voting in Trump & Crew, and Bloc Voting against the Left and the Democratic Party for the next 100 years, until the Democrats are vaguely remembered, in a oderous light, somewhat like the old Whig-Party.

Deal with it.

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[JustHanging]

So...

You're reaction is...

If you don't kowtow to the Leftie scam, abuse, false-accusation, and condemnation, then you're assumed guilty of far-worse crimes, and should be punished accordingly.



Well, If that's you're position, you're entitled to it... and it is good to know.

And we, the 62% of the Voters who are working Whites, can respond, by voting in Trump & Crew, and Bloc Voting against the Left and the Democratic Party for the next 100 years, until the Democrats are vaguely remembered, in a oderous light, somewhat like the old Whig-Party.

Deal with it.

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Nah. Whites are going to be a minority in the USA soon.

The Southern Strategy has ensured that all the racists are gathered under the Republican banner, and when the minorities become the majority, they're going to say bye bye to blatant racists like Trump, and there won't be enough racist whites left to make a difference.

 

[Mr Person]

So...You're reaction is...If you don't kowtow to the Leftie scam, abuse, false-accusation, and condemnation, then you're assumed guilty of far-worse crimes, and should be punished accordingly. Well, If that's you're position, you're entitled to it... and it is good to know. And we, the 62% of the Voters who are working Whites, can respond, by voting in Trump & Crew, and Bloc Voting against the Left and the Democratic Party for the next 100 years, until the Democrats are vaguely remembered, in a oderous light, somewhat like the old Whig-Party. Deal with it. -

Why bother posting if you just want to lie to yourself? Go talk to a mirror.

 

[Kurmugeon]

Nah. Whites are going to be a minority in the USA soon.

The Southern Strategy has ensured that all the racists are gathered under the Republican banner, and when the minorities become the majority, they're going to say bye bye to blatant racists like Trump, and there won't be enough racist whites left to make a difference.

A minority hugh? You mean like less than 50% of the population?

But still their demographic will be larger than any other two demographics... Combined!

Are you of the opinion that the Black Vote, at just 14%, is meaningless today, because it is less than 50%?

And then there is the aspect of the children of mixed Race marriages.

My wife is American Hispanic. My Daughters are mixed. My five grandkids, due to their fathers being white, look white, and the official Race-assessor of the public schools, sent home a letter to their Moms, stating that the kids were all "Judged" as White, therefore, they do not "Qualify", for a very long list of special programs, tutoring, extra school hours activities, sports, College Scholarships....

Hell hath no furry, like a Hispanic Grandma, my wife, just told that her precious little grand babies have no value at all, because of their "Skin Tone"!

And New Mexico is the second highest in mixed-race marriage occurance in the nation, right after Alaska. Around half of the kids in New Mexico are half-White, Half-Hispanic.... but not according the official "Race-Assessors"!

Every year, the numbers of "Designated Minority" Grandparent, with "Designated White-Disenfranchised" Grandkids, is growing. How do you think they're going to VOTE?!

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[Master Debator]

A minority hugh? You mean like less than 50% of the population?

But still their demographic will be larger than any other two demographics... Combined!

Are you of the opinion that the Black Vote, at just 14%, is meaningless today, because it is less than 50%?

And then there is the aspect of the children of mixed Race marriages.

My wife is American Hispanic. My Daughters are mixed. My five grandkids, due to their fathers being white, look white, and the official Race-assessor of the public schools, sent home a letter to their Moms, stating that the kids were all "Judged" as White, therefore, they do not "Qualify", for a very long list of special programs, tutoring, extra school hours activities, sports, College Scholarships....

Hell hath no furry, like a Hispanic Grandma, my wife, just told that her precious little grand babies have not value at all, because of their "Skin Tone"!

And New Mexico is the second highest in mixed-race marriage occurance in the nation, right after Alaska. Around half of the kids in New Mexico are half-White, Half-Hispanic.... but not according the official "Race-Assessors"!

Every year, the numbers of "Designated Minority" Grandparent, with "Designated White-Disenfranchised" Grandkids, is growing. How do you think they're going to VOTE?!

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By all evidence they're going to vote Democrat. You guys are going to get absolutely slaughtered next election. But enjoy your fantasy world. :thumbs:

 

[Kurmugeon]

By all evidence they're going to vote Democrat. You guys are going to get absolutely slaughtered next election. But enjoy your fantasy world. :thumbs:

My wife read this, and laughed.

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[Good4Nothin]

Liberals are obsessed with race and gender. There are so many things they don't see because of these fixations. Everything is explained in these terms.

We are naturally tribal and we look for people who are culturally similar to ourselves. That won't change. Race and culture often coincide, but they don't have to. Culture is what matters, and race is incidental.

As for gender -- there will always be gender roles because men and women are different. And gays are different. There probably will never be a female military general. If there is, she will be a trans.

 

[Tigerace117]

I am NOT excusing slavery. If you are going to hate the American whites who owned slaves hundreds of years ago, then you should also hate the African blacks who owned slaves. And all the other slave-owning societies.

“African blacks” didn’t murder hundreds of thousands of people in a desperate attempt to preserve slavery.

 

[noonereal]

Maybe not. But why is it considered ok to be proud of being black or gay?

Because they have been discriminated against for such things for centuries.

Are you really serious in not understanding this?

Is this inane OP even serious?

I certainly hope not. Because if it is, you will struggle mightily in life.

 

[Master Debator]

My wife read this, and laughed.

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Good for your wife. If you think your mixed race children are going to vote for the party that thinks it's okay to let businesses discriminate against mixed race couples your underestimating your children's intelligence.

:shrug:

Go look up the polling on how you're doing with the younger generation. It gives me a good laugh too. :lamo

 

[Master Debator]

Liberals are obsessed with race and gender. There are so many things they don't see because of these fixations. Everything is explained in these terms.

We are naturally tribal and we look for people who are culturally similar to ourselves. That won't change. Race and culture often coincide, but they don't have to. Culture is what matters, and race is incidental.

As for gender -- there will always be gender roles because men and women are different. And gays are different. There probably will never be a female military general. If there is, she will be a trans.

:lamo

You do realize you're the one who comes off obsessed over race and gender don't you? ****ing oblivious... :wow:

 

[Good4Nothin]

“African blacks” didn’t murder hundreds of thousands of people in a desperate attempt to preserve slavery.

It was a civil war. Both sides killed each other. That's what war is.

And if you don't think African blacks had wars, and if you don't think African blacks took slaves as war prisoners, well you're a liberal. You need to see whites as evil and racial minorities as helpless little victims.

 

[Good4Nothin]

:lamo

You do realize you're the one who comes off obsessed over race and gender don't you? ****ing oblivious... :wow:

You failed to comprehend what I wrote. I said race is incidental.

 

[Master Debator]

You failed to comprehend what I wrote. I said race is incidental.

No I read what you wrote. It was hilarious in its lack of self awareness. :lamo

 

[Tigerace117]

It was a civil war. Both sides killed each other. That's what war is.

And if you don't think African blacks had wars, and if you don't think African blacks took slaves as war prisoners, well you're a liberal. You need to see whites as evil and racial minorities as helpless little victims.

It was a treasonous uprising where the slavers threatened to murder US troops—- and did so—- out of hand on the basis of their skin color. To the point where it was only by threatening their fellow slavers that deterred them from carrying through on their plot. And then they went on to literally spend decades conducting acts of terrorism and murder to prevent American citizens from exercising their constitutional rights.

Oh look, another pathetic wail of how much of a victim you think white people are. News flash—- even the worst treated white folks in this country have always had it far better than African Americans, for instance.

 

[Kurmugeon]

Good for your wife. If you think your mixed race children are going to vote for the party that thinks it's okay to let businesses discriminate against mixed race couples your underestimating your children's intelligence.

:shrug:

Go look up the polling on how you're doing with the younger generation. It gives me a good laugh too. :lamo

They are NOT mixed race children. The officials at the school have their assessment and dictated that they are to be treated as White-Only.

When we all get together at Christmas, and eat pazole, and elk-chili stew, and listen to great-grandpa tell ghost stories in spanish, the kids know who and what they are... but the official line from the Democratic Party, and the Schools and Goverment, has deemed them the Hated Whites!

And because of that designation, many of the things their peers are doing, are cut-off from them. They are designated White, and therefore, they do not "Qualify".

Now, if they were not born Americans, but rather came here illegally in a caravan, palm out demanding, they'd get everything and more!

And you think that will make anyone in the whole family, from Great Grandma, to the newest toddler, ever vote for a Democrat?

You don't a clue about what is happening among the working class of America! This is why Trump's victory took all of you by surpise.

Identity Politics will destroy the Democratic Party and the American Left.

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[SheWolf]

People are very confused. Well what else is new. But especially about the word "racism."

We don't see anything wrong with black pride or gay pride. Minorities are allowed to be proud of their group identity. However, white pride is considered racism.

There is a long history of white pride, of looking down at non-white races and ethnic groups. There was the famous "White man's burden," for example. Lots of people felt this way until not so long ago. Now most people who feel that way keep it secret, because it's taboo.

But the feelings of superiority of Europeans and European-Americans is based on the fact that most of the inventions and discoveries of the modern world came from their culture.

I do NOT think that was because of their whiteness, or their European ethnicity! It was a chain of historical accidents that caused Europe to be the center of invention and discovery. They were primitive raiders and herders when there were advanced civilizations in Africa, Asia, and America. But then things happened, and here we are. No one in Africa invented a telescope or a microscope.

White nationalism is really ethnic pride. It is arrogant and obnoxious, yes. But you can't simply shut it down, because they do have things to be proud of. Well, not really, since most of the white nationalists are dumb and never invented anything.

My point is that it's complicated. White pride is partly a reaction to black pride, gay pride, feminism, etc. There is so much contempt now for "old white men." There is really no admiration any more for the great discoverers and adventurers. Columbus is despised now because he wasn't nice to the natives. The guy was a visionary, brave explorer, and you expect him to also be a sweetheart and lover of natives?

White men have done the most to create our modern world. I think our modern world is actually more bad than good. But credit for the bad, and the good, goes mostly to white men. NOT women! I am a woman, and I can face the fact that women have accomplished VERY LITTLE compared to men! NOT because we are inferior, but because of social roles and restrictions.

The fact that you think only white people have done the most to create the world you live in, shows what a racist you are.

 

[SheWolf]

Maybe not. But why is it considered ok to be proud of being black or gay?

You can be proud of your ancestry, your Irish heritage, your country, or something like that, but saying things like only white people shape the world and do great things is the way white supremacists talk about whiteness

 

[SheWolf]

Right. That's what progressives today fail to understand.

White people don't like being white, and therefore we have tanning salons. This is not about skin color.

:lol:...

 

[SheWolf]

They were sold by blacks in Africa. So if you are going to blame whites for this, you should also go back a step and blame the African slave traders.

White slave owners are fully responsible for buying, selling, beating, and killing the slaves they personally did all of the above to. Africa is not responsible for that. All white people are not responsible for that.

It’s not complicated.

You obviously feel sorry for yourself or think your entire race is to blame. You’re a misguided person

 

[JMR]

Maybe not. But why is it considered ok to be proud of being black or gay?

Off the top of my head, I think it's ok because some groups have historically been victims of unfairness and injustice. So stating pride in belonging to these groups makes the whole group a little stronger.

White pride does not represent any group that has historically known discrimination, so what is the driving force behind proclaiming pride? Seems a little oppositional to me.

 

[HenryChinaski]

I think you're correct in a way. White pride isn't so much based on what whites have done in the past, but the esteem and expectations we hold for ourselves. As to why 'white' or 'straight' parades are looked upon as vulgar, these are considered the normal and superior modes of being - the 'normal'.

Take a retard parade. They are allowed to parade because they are pitied and looked upon as inferior, but we'd feel better about it if we called them 'developmentally disabled'. But the esteem we have for them doesn't increase. When someone sets up a "Normal IQ" parade, it's looked at as insulting and vulgar. This is kind of the same dynamic when straight or white pride parades are done.

Retard parade? You’re like school on a Saturday, no class..

 

[Master Debator]

They are NOT mixed race children. The officials at the school have their assessment and dictated that they are to be treated as White-Only.

When we all get together at Christmas, and eat pazole, and elk-chili stew, and listen to great-grandpa tell ghost stories in spanish, the kids know who and what they are... but the official line from the Democratic Party, and the Schools and Goverment, has deemed them the Hated Whites!

And because of that designation, many of the things their peers are doing, are cut-off from them. They are designated White, and therefore, they do not "Qualify".

Now, if they were not born Americans, but rather came here illegally in a caravan, palm out demanding, they'd get everything and more!

And you think that will make anyone in the whole family, from Great Grandma, to the newest toddler, ever vote for a Democrat?

You don't a clue about what is happening among the working class of America! This is why Trump's victory took all of you by surpise.

Identity Politics will destroy the Democratic Party and the American Left.

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Yea, none of that sounds real. Sounds like horse **** top to bottom. Crying about illegal immigrants....:roll:

Trump's victory never caught me by surprise. Hillary was a bad candidate. No one really liked her and she still won the popular vote by 2 million. The working class spoke and they voted for her. It's only the grace of the electoral college that Trump is president. Not because a majority of a Americans wanted him.

 

[snakestretcher]

So...

You're reaction is...

If you don't kowtow to the Leftie scam, abuse, false-accusation, and condemnation, then you're assumed guilty of far-worse crimes, and should be punished accordingly.



Well, If that's you're position, you're entitled to it... and it is good to know.

And we, the 62% of the Voters who are working Whites, can respond, by voting in Trump & Crew, and Bloc Voting against the Left and the Democratic Party for the next 100 years, until the Democrats are vaguely remembered, in a oderous light, somewhat like the old Whig-Party.

Deal with it.

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"Leftie scam"? That's what all far-right racists say if confronted and it goes against their agenda. Were the bottom-feeding 'Unite the Right' Nazis falsely accused of racism while chanting, "Jews will not replace us"? Is that a part of your imagined scam? Poor oppressed and downtrodden whitey; my heart bleeds.

 

[snakestretcher]

They are NOT mixed race children. The officials at the school have their assessment and dictated that they are to be treated as White-Only.

When we all get together at Christmas, and eat pazole, and elk-chili stew, and listen to great-grandpa tell ghost stories in spanish, the kids know who and what they are... but the official line from the Democratic Party, and the Schools and Goverment, has deemed them the Hated Whites!

And because of that designation, many of the things their peers are doing, are cut-off from them. They are designated White, and therefore, they do not "Qualify".

Now, if they were not born Americans, but rather came here illegally in a caravan, palm out demanding, they'd get everything and more!

And you think that will make anyone in the whole family, from Great Grandma, to the newest toddler, ever vote for a Democrat?

You don't a clue about what is happening among the working class of America! This is why Trump's victory took all of you by surpise.

Identity Politics will destroy the Democratic Party and the American Left.

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If the working class are too dumb to understand Trump was conning them with wild, unachievable promises, whose fault is that? Trump was elected on lies; lies which are now beginning to be revealed-like the miners whom Trump promised; "you're going back to work". Those are decent, honest hard-working people who rely on their jobs to keep their families afloat. Trump's cynical electioneering lies gave them false hope and, like the many farmers hit by his stupid tariffs, their vote has probably been lost.

Trump says 'the coal industry is back.' The data say otherwise.