Pretty sure Warren will drop out and endorse Klobuchar

[Dans La Lune]

Warren just spoke about the incoming election results. I was 50% sure that Warren was going to drop out and endorse Klobuchar when she finished speaking, I think she is prepping her supporters for this revelation, and I'm about 80% sure she will eventually endorse Klobuchar. I am 99% sure she won't be endorsing Bernie. That's fine.

I really wish Warren hadn't taken some the wrong turns she has taken in her political career. She is a progressive champion, she was Bernie's first choice for president (2015), she remains good on policy, but I don't think she has good political instincts.

I wish her well and hope she does good for the progressive cause in some capacity.

 

[maxparrish]

Warren just spoke about the incoming election results. I was 50% sure that Warren was going to drop out and endorse Klobuchar when she finished speaking, I think she is prepping her supporters for this revelation, and I'm about 80% sure she will eventually endorse Klobuchar. I am 99% sure she won't be endorsing Bernie. That's fine.

I really wish Warren hadn't taken some the wrong turns she has taken in her political career. She is a progressive champion, she was Bernie's first choice for president (2015), she remains good on policy, but I don't think she has good political instincts.

I wish her well and hope she does good for the progressive cause in some capacity.

Won't matter. Warren voters, or at least those few left, will naturally gravitate to Bernie.

 

[calamity]

Warren just spoke about the incoming election results. I was 50% sure that Warren was going to drop out and endorse Klobuchar when she finished speaking, I think she is prepping her supporters for this revelation, and I'm about 80% sure she will eventually endorse Klobuchar. I am 99% sure she won't be endorsing Bernie. That's fine.

I really wish Warren hadn't taken some the wrong turns she has taken in her political career. She is a progressive champion, she was Bernie's first choice for president (2015), she remains good on policy, but I don't think she has good political instincts.

I wish her well and hope she does good for the progressive cause in some capacity.

I like Amy.

 

[ttwtt78640]

Won't matter. Warren voters, or at least those few left, will naturally gravitate to Bernie.

Some will for sure, but the combined far left support (Sanders plus Warren) is still not the big half of the demorat primary vote - the last thing that black voters want is open borders which will keep downward pressure on wages and upward pressure on the number of hours one must work to stay above the poverty line. Klobuchar will get a growing number of votes as more drop out - especially from women.

 

[azgreg]

I don't see her dropping out until after Super Tuesday.

 

[Surrealistik]

Warren just spoke about the incoming election results. I was 50% sure that Warren was going to drop out and endorse Klobuchar when she finished speaking, I think she is prepping her supporters for this revelation, and I'm about 80% sure she will eventually endorse Klobuchar. I am 99% sure she won't be endorsing Bernie. That's fine.

I really wish Warren hadn't taken some the wrong turns she has taken in her political career. She is a progressive champion, she was Bernie's first choice for president (2015), she remains good on policy, but I don't think she has good political instincts.

I wish her well and hope she does good for the progressive cause in some capacity.

It's honestly hard to see her endorsing Klobuchar, but yeah, I think that unless she and Bernie have mended fences behind the scenes, which is very possible, her endorsement probably isn't going to him.

 

[PLizzy]

I don't see her dropping out until after Super Tuesday.

This.

She has to stick it out until then.

 

[ttwtt78640]

It's honestly hard to see her endorsing Klobuchar, but yeah, I think that unless she and Bernie have mended fences behind the scenes, which is very possible, her endorsement probably isn't going to him.

Warren may have "borrowed" many of Sanders' policy positions, but she will never endorse the socialist label that Sanders has proudly claimed.

 

[Surrealistik]

Warren may have "borrowed" many of Sanders' policy positions, but she will never endorse the socialist label that Sanders has proudly claimed.

Given they are/were good friends, I think that's more than a little premature to claim.

 

[ttwtt78640]

I don't see her dropping out until after Super Tuesday.

That's not very long from now and she has no chance to better her position in SC or NV. Best for Warren to pocket any excess campaign cash and keep it for her Senate campaign.

 

[ttwtt78640]

Given they are/were good friends, I think that's more than a little premature to claim.

Why would "good friends" run against each other?

 

[Surrealistik]

Why would "good friends" run against each other?

Because they have differing opinions on the best way to reform and lead the country?

Sanders actually sat out the 2016 primaries until it was clear and apparent that Warren wasn't running; I think his decision to get in in 2020 is predicated on his (apparently correct) belief that he was better equipped to take the nomination and guide the progressive agenda per the existing following he aggregated then and the movement he more or less singlehandedly created out of nothing.

 

[jdog21]

Some will for sure, but the combined far left support (Sanders plus Warren) is still not the big half of the demorat primary vote - the last thing that black voters want is open borders which will keep downward pressure on wages and upward pressure on the number of hours one must work to stay above the poverty line. Klobuchar will get a growing number of votes as more drop out - especially from women.

The key was always the rust belt, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin. Biden played well there and now we are seeing he isn't as popular as they'd hoped. Buttigieg being from Indiana and Klobachar from Minnesota both neighbor states help bring voters in from those 3 states. Bernie was the outlier who plays well with unions but national people don't like socialism so the goal of the DNC was always to elevate the other 3.

 

[Dans La Lune]

It's honestly hard to see her endorsing Klobuchar, but yeah, I think that unless she and Bernie have mended fences behind the scenes, which is very possible, her endorsement probably isn't going to him.

Prediction: Klobuchar and Warren ticket. They think that will unite the party. It’s already been suspected that Warren and Klobuchar have formed an alliance.

 

[ttwtt78640]

Because they have differing opinions on the best way to reform and lead the country?

Sanders actually sat out the 2016 primaries until it was clear and apparent that Warren wasn't running; I think his decision to get in in 2020 is predicated on his (apparently correct) belief that he was better equipped to take the nomination and guide the progressive agenda per the existing following he aggregated then and the movement he more or less singlehandedly created out of nothing.

What, exactly, is their major difference in policy opinion/position? The only major difference that I saw was that Warren pretended that no middle class tax increases were required to (at least) double federal spending.

 

[Hawkeye10]

Warren just spoke about the incoming election results. I was 50% sure that Warren was going to drop out and endorse Klobuchar when she finished speaking, I think she is prepping her supporters for this revelation, and I'm about 80% sure she will eventually endorse Klobuchar. I am 99% sure she won't be endorsing Bernie. That's fine.

I really wish Warren hadn't taken some the wrong turns she has taken in her political career. She is a progressive champion, she was Bernie's first choice for president (2015), she remains good on policy, but I don't think she has good political instincts.

I wish her well and hope she does good for the progressive cause in some capacity.

She is an Empty Suit.

She is also a Senator, which tells you something important about America.

 

[Surrealistik]

What, exactly, is their major difference in policy opinion/position? The only major difference that I saw was that Warren pretended that no middle class tax increases were required to (at least) double federal spending.

Their differences on MFA are huge alone, especially with her plans to establish a public option 'intermediary' prior to singlepayer; this is actually correlated with a collapse in her support, and a surge in Sanders' numbers.

And it's also about who is more electable of the two besides.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Won't matter. Warren voters, or at least those few left, will naturally gravitate to Bernie.

Maybe some will and maybe some will go to Pete or Amy.
Some will go to Bernie but I don't think all of them will.

 

[JasperL]

Won't matter. Warren voters, or at least those few left, will naturally gravitate to Bernie.

Some will, others won't. I was a supporter and I won't gravitate in that direction.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

I like Amy.

I like Bernie better but I can learn to like Amy for a different reason.
She feels like Minnesota and Minnesota is a great place to live.

Thing is, if Amy did win the election, we would ABSOLUTELY HAVE to have a massive landslide in Congress in order to prevent her from being slaughtered by Mitch and his Angry Army of Extremists.

Actually, no matter which Democrat wins, we will need to to have a massive landslide in Congress in order to prevent her from being slaughtered by Mitch and his Angry Army of Extremists.

If Amy wins and we still have Mitch owning the Senate, it's an automatic Amy impeachment because Republicans WANT it so badly they will do anything to make it happen.

 

[JasperL]

She is an Empty Suit.

She is also a Senator, which tells you something important about America.

If someone with her accomplishments pre-Senator is an "empty suit" you have a very odd definition of it.

 

[Dans La Lune]

What, exactly, is their major difference in policy opinion/position? The only major difference that I saw was that Warren pretended that no middle class tax increases were required to (at least) double federal spending.

Warren and Sanders are much different on foreign policy and trade. Warren is far more hawkish than Bernie, and has voted to increase military spending. Warren is more amiable to corporate interests and is more establishment in general.

 

[ttwtt78640]

Their differences on MFA are huge alone, especially with her plans to establish a public option 'intermediary' prior to singlepayer; this is actually correlated with a collapse in her support, and a surge in Sanders' numbers.

And it's also about who is more electable of the two besides.

It seems to me that (bolded above) happened only after she was forced to come up with an M4A "pay for" plan.

Health-care policy has consumed the Warren campaign in recent months and led to a dip in the polls after she struggled to answer questions about the financing and cost of Medicare for All.

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

"For me, what's key is we get everybody at the table on this," was her noncommittal answer when asked about it at a CNN town hall on March 18. She was a co-sponsor of Sen. Bernie Sanders' signature single-payer health care bill (He "wrote the damn bill," as you might recall), but had backed other health overhaul bills, as she told CNN's Jake Tapper.

By the time of the first primary debate, in June, she was firmly behind Medicare for All. "I'm with Bernie on Medicare for All," Warren declared.


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During this period, the Massachusetts senator also gained ground as the woman with a plan for everything. But she didn't have her own plan for health care.

Sanders' bill that Warren backed didn't lay out for certain the details of how to pay for it. Rather, he had a list of possible options.

So Warren faced a new question, pressed most consistently by South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg. He chided her during October's debate: "Your signature, senator, is to have a plan for everything. Except this."

In addition, when asked about whether she'd raise taxes on the middle class to pay for the plan, Warren responded that costs wouldn't go up — a move her opponents cast as evasive. Sanders said that taxes would go up on the middle class, while also promising that overall costs would go down.

By the time Warren came up with both a way to pay for Medicare for All and a plan to transition to it, the issue was a key way that opponents were attacking her — and, potentially, a key factor in her declining support among Democratic voters. Releasing her plans didn't appear to help her regain that ground.

Did Elizabeth Warren's Embrace Of 'Medicare For All' Hurt Her Campaign? : NPR

 

[ecofarm]

What's the largest city in each of Iowa and NH? What's the urban:suburban:rural ratios? There are so many factors that have not been sampled for at n = 2.

 

[ecofarm]

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

Why are you accusing Bloomberg of being a robot?