Presidents Since JFK Rated From Worst to First--- Mashmont's List

[bongsaway]

Allow Mashmont to educate you, since it is what I do best. George W. Bush navigated the tricky and dangerous terrain after 9-11. He was SO effective that there was not a single Muslim domestic attack after 2001. The man promised to protect Americans, and he did just that. Had the red-nosed SOB who preceded Bush been doing his damn job and not out chasing chubby interns every night, the 9-11 terrorists would not have been able to move to America in 1999 and start training and taking flying lessons under Clinton's big red nose. So I blame that philandering bastard for allowing 9-11 in the first place. Had it not happened, Bush wouldn't have been forced to protect us, and the Iraq War may never have happened.
The economy: So Bush turned around the Clinton recession of 2000 and gave us six strong years of economic boom. Then the damn Democrats and their media stole Congress by concocting a phony racist meme against Senator George Allen. And what happened? The economy went right down the sewer, thanks to Democrat-controlled Fannie Mae creating and buying up defective instruments based on thousands of loans to unqualified borrowers. 0bummer was one of the ring leaders of the new Congress that allowed that practice. As a result, we got the Great Recession.

So there you are. Bush did a tremendous job. His only mistake was supporting the Democrat-led bailout, and sucking up to Democrats too often, trying to make them like him. That's a mistake Trump doesn't make, and it's why Trump has been more successful than Bush.

Quite the narrative. I'm happy knowing you won't be writing any history books.

 

[Logician Man]

Allow Mashmont to educate you, since it is what I do best. George W. Bush navigated the tricky and dangerous terrain after 9-11. He was SO effective that there was not a single Muslim domestic attack after 2001. The man promised to protect Americans, and he did just that. Had the red-nosed SOB who preceded Bush been doing his damn job and not out chasing chubby interns every night, the 9-11 terrorists would not have been able to move to America in 1999 and start training and taking flying lessons under Clinton's big red nose. So I blame that philandering bastard for allowing 9-11 in the first place. Had it not happened, Bush wouldn't have been forced to protect us, and the Iraq War may never have happened.
The economy: So Bush turned around the Clinton recession of 2000 and gave us six strong years of economic boom. Then the damn Democrats and their media stole Congress by concocting a phony racist meme against Senator George Allen. And what happened? The economy went right down the sewer, thanks to Democrat-controlled Fannie Mae creating and buying up defective instruments based on thousands of loans to unqualified borrowers. 0bummer was one of the ring leaders of the new Congress that allowed that practice. As a result, we got the Great Recession.

So there you are. Bush did a tremendous job. His only mistake was supporting the Democrat-led bailout, and sucking up to Democrats too often, trying to make them like him. That's a mistake Trump doesn't make, and it's why Trump has been more successful than Bush.

Revisionist history is not a good look for a serious debater. Indeed, it's been proven, time and again, to be one of the quickest, and most embarrassing ways to lose arguments and debates.

 

[Mashmont]

And soooo many children were abused and molested that the Vatican is soon going have to start peeling gold off their walls to pay for the lawyer fees...

Yip good times...

I guess you're REALLY uspet at the enormous and growing number of child molestations in the godless public school system even TODAY. Meanwhile, abuse at the RCC has dwindled to near zero.

 

[Mashmont]

After reading this list, I am more convinced you don't know what words actually mean.

Is that right? Like wow, man. Smoke one for me.

 

[Logician Man]

I guess you're REALLY uspet at the enormous and growing number of child molestations in the godless public school system even TODAY. Meanwhile, abuse at the RCC has dwindled to near zero.

/// 'godless' public schools /// Do all Catholics no longer believe their God is Omnipresent, or is this just your personal belief ?

 

[Mashmont]

That is an interesting re-telling of the story.
Just because he stood in front of a banner saying "mission accomplished" does not mean he won.
He should have listened to his father, who was a better POTUS and knew there was no exit strategy in Iraq.

No, the Mission Accomplished banner was for the removal of Saddam, not for the Iraq War.

 

[Tigerace117]

Supposing I can quote the "UN inspector teams?"

Do you take their word?

We’ll see what you fantasize is evidence......but the fact remains that the Serbs absolutely were committing genocide.

Which is why it will be interesting to see where you got that line from.

 

[ecofarm]

Is that right?

It's right. Your OP is garbage. You'll push this thread along, defending your garbage with additional nonsense, creating a giant pile of crap for which you will then pat yourself on the back. You'll proclaim, "my pile of putrid feces is greater than all before it!" And you'll count it as a win of some incomprehensible sort.

That's right too.

 

[Logician Man]

It's right. Your OP is garbage. You'll push this thread along, defending your garbage with additional nonsense, creating a giant pile of crap for which you will then pat yourself on the back. You'll proclaim, "my pile of putrid feces is greater than all before it!" And you'll count it as a win of some incomprehensible sort.

That's right too.

:lol:

 

[Mashmont]

Obama probably did not earn that prize for anything other than being the first black president in the last industrialized nation to outlaw slavery.

Really doesn't matter why he got it, he pulled us out of the second largest economic collapse in world history, h deserved it just for that...

Obummer never pulled us out the recession he helped cause. His socialist policies prolonged it. Only Trump got us out, and magnificently so.

 

[Mashmont]

I would switch the two Bush's.

We're pretty close then. Excellent.

 

[Mashmont]

JFK is difficult to be accurately rated because he just didn't have enough time. He got off on a rocky start, but may have found his stride had he lived. He was weak on civil rights--- even as compared to Eisenhower, but I strongly believe JFK would NOT have escalated our involvement in Vietnam the way the idiot LBJ did.

In today's Democrat party JFK would not be welcomed---- he was basically more right of center than many Republicans are.

My list from best to worst:

Reagan
Trump
Nixon
JFK
Clinton
Ford
Bush II
Bush I
Obama
Carter
LBJ

Very true. JFK would be far too conservative for the Democrats. Who knows what his abortion position would be, but I can't imagine a Democrat being pro-life. it doesn't happen on the national stage. Kennedy wasn't a devout Catholic, so i can't see it happening.

 

[Mashmont]

President Obama wasn't my "top choice", but he was the only fully competent and stateman like President we've had since Kennedy. I think he did his best to try to unify our country, at least he didn't WORK at tearing it asunder as tRump is.

Are you kidding? 0bummer's entire goal was to divide America. That's why he exploited every race incident before even knowing the facts. He divided people every way you could. Trump is uniting us by reducing the power of the Marxist bastards who want to destroy this country.

 

[Mashmont]

It's like you're a liberal caricature of a Trump supporter

Just look at this booming economy around you. THAT is because of Trump.

 

[Mashmont]

It's right. Your OP is garbage. You'll push this thread along, defending your garbage with additional nonsense, creating a giant pile of crap for which you will then pat yourself on the back. You'll proclaim, "my pile of putrid feces is greater than all before it!" And you'll count it as a win of some incomprehensible sort.

That's right too.

I've only supplied 28 of the 190 posts. That's less than 15%. Thank you to all you folks who are 'pushing this thread along' by making 85% of the posts. Thanks for honoring Mashmont. Again.

 

[ecofarm]

I've only supplied 28 of the 190 posts. That's less than 15%. Thank you to all you folks who are 'pushing this thread along' by making 85% of the posts. Thanks for honoring Mashmont. Again.

Compare that with other OPs. You generate the piles of garbage you stand so proudly upon.

 

[Mashmont]

"When Paula Deen goes vegan and becomes America's foremost obesity critic eight months from now, that will cement her place in the top three greatest chefs in history, and perhaps the greatest of all time."

"When the Huffington Post goes after abortionists and climate change alarmism in 2021, that will cement its place in the top three newspapers in history, and perhaps the greatest of all time."

Fatal error occurred in mashmont_logic.exe.
Reality disconnection fault at 0x1008B0C1.
Core dumped to mashmont.log.

You talk like Trump would never touch entitlements or the deficit. He has promised to do both, and so far he has kept all his promises. The guy is fearless. Why would he not go after these big problems in his second term? He doesn't care about politics. He cares about doing the right thing.

 

[Irwin Corey]

I'm not going to say you're right or wrong. There's a case of it being plausible. But given we don't know it for a fact, there's still looking at the rest of his presidency, which had remarkable, historic accomplishments. If we did know he killed JFK, that would clearly be what matters, but until then, we can look at his presidency.



Reagan did try, but that's not the issue. Carter ordered the military to launch the rescue operation. They screwed it up. How is that Carter's fault? Then Iran dispersed the hostages all around the country, making another attempt impossible. What was Carter supposed to to? He negotiated their release and they all were returned safely, after the election to spite him. How is that his fault?

I believe Johnson was at the very least aware of the plot to assassinate JFK, I can never give him anything but a terrible rating.

Jimmy Carter is probably the nicest most honest men ever to hold the Presidency, but I think he was a milk toast. And, had he been more aggressive, could have achieved the release of the Hostages LOOOONG before they were even very early on.

I called it like "I" see it.

 

[Mashmont]

Compare that with other OPs. You generate the piles of garbage you stand so proudly upon.

Again. 15% is pretty mild for someone with the most 1000+ post threads in the history of the forum. I guess people find my topics interesting. If that bothers you, why don't you try posting an interesting thread topic. Don't just sit on your brains and gripe.

 

[Irwin Corey]

Are you kidding? 0bummer's entire goal was to divide America. That's why he exploited every race incident before even knowing the facts. He divided people every way you could. Trump is uniting us by reducing the power of the Marxist bastards who want to destroy this country.

So you've been told by lush, faux and blightbart. President Obama was one of our greatest Presidents, no I'm not kidding.<-period

 

[Mashmont]

I believe Johnson was at the very least aware of the plot to assassinate JFK, I can never give him anything but a terrible rating.

Jimmy Carter is probably the nicest most honest men ever to hold the Presidency, but I think he was a milk toast. And, had he been more aggressive, could have achieved the release of the Hostages LOOOONG before they were even very early on.

I called it like "I" see it.

Again, if Carter were truly decent, he would have put his oft-proclaimed 'Christian faith' ahead of the leftist mantle on abortion. When he didn't do that, he totally lost my respect.

 

[Irwin Corey]

Again, if Carter were truly decent, he would have put his oft-proclaimed 'Christian faith' ahead of the leftist mantle on abortion. When he didn't do that, he totally lost my respect.

??Shrug??

When he didn't do that, he totally lost my respect.

Besides you; who cares?

Call em like you saw/see em; your reasons why don't interest me.

 

[Mashmont]

So you've been told by lush, faux and blightbart. President Obama was one of our greatest Presidents, no I'm not kidding.<-period

Obummer was the least qualified president in modern history. His training was not in building a business; it was in Marxist activism. That's why he was a horrible president in every way. Not only was he a radical, he was incompetent. Compare 0bummer to THE MOST qualified candidate in history, Donald J. Trump who had FIFTY years of experience starting and running a large company, and everything that goes along with it, such as negotiating skill. Trump is the best negotiator in the world. He is eight steps ahead of anybody else.

 

[Mashmont]

So you've been told by lush, faux and blightbart. President Obama was one of our greatest Presidents, no I'm not kidding.<-period

Please don't slur the name of the greatest journalist and historian in the world today, Rush Limbaugh. You guys can insult me all you want; you DO NOT go after Rush. Comprende?

 

[Eriech]

I'd put Obama higher as he gave us Trump. Carter gave us Reagan. The Bushes should be lower for same reason. We may never recover from Johnson....he should be on the bottom.

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