POLL: Majority of Trump voters would support him even if he colluded with Russia

[Dittohead not!]

Sorry but results that are going on now are on the Trump's scorecard whether you like it or not. Results matter so post the results you have a problem with?

Oh, yes, the results are going on Trump's scorecard, to be sure. Don't forget that as events continue to unfold.

 

[Conservative]

You mean attacks on the Muslim terrorist from Kenya who ruined this country with his socialistic ideas, the AntiChrist, or the lizard person? You'll have to be more specific as to which Obama you mean. Maybe it's the one who gave his wife, who is fat as a cow, a terrorist fist bump, that one?

You'd have to be living in a cave withe Osama Bin Laden to not have recognized the attacks carried out on Barack Obama. The right wingers stopped just short of calling him an uppity nigger, as they left that last word to the imagination.

One of the dumbest responses ever, not worthy of a response. Nothing libertarian about you

 

[Conservative]

Oh, yes, the results are going on Trump's scorecard, to be sure. Don't forget that as events continue to unfold.

They certainly do, why don't you post some to support your point of view?? Reality, you CAN'T

 

[Dittohead not!]

One of the dumbest responses ever, not worthy of a response. Nothing libertarian about you

You asked:

Then post for me the relative Conservative attacks on Obama

That "dumb response" listed a few of the things that were said about Obama.

sorry if it contradicted your world view.

 

[Dittohead not!]

They certainly do, why don't you post some to support your point of view?? Reality, you CAN'T

You mean my point of view that Trump is a disaster for the country and the Republican Party? I've done that. Why repeat myself?

 

[Conservative]

You asked:



That "dumb response" listed a few of the things that were said about Obama.

sorry if it contradicted your world view.

Then post them as I never attacked Obama personally only his results. What you attack is Trump personally and ignore the results

 

[Conservative]

You mean my point of view that Trump is a disaster for the country and the Republican Party? I've done that. Why repeat myself?

For someone from California who is totally ignorant of results yes, he is a disaster but for the Democratic Party not the Republican party

 

[ecofarm]

Then post them as I never attacked Obama personally only his results. What you attack is Trump personally and ignore the results

I'd check but when I search your posts and keyword Obama (advanced search/single content type/keyword, username, show as posts), the search is truncated at 40 pages and that only brings you back to mid Feb of this year. At 25 posts per page, you've made 1000 posts with the word Obama in the past 4 months, rendering the search rather useless.

 

[Conservative]

I'd check but when I search your posts and keyword Obama (advanced search/single content type/keyword, username, show as posts), the search is truncated at 40 pages and that only brings you back to mid Feb of this year. At 25 posts per page, you've made 1000 posts with the word Obama in the past 4 months, rendering the search rather useless.

Yep none of which were personal attacks but rather attacks on his record and actual results which are recognized as the worst recovery in the history of this nation. I personally liked Obama but he was unqualified for the office as his record shows.

 

[Dittohead not!]

Then post them as I never attacked Obama personally only his results. What you attack is Trump personally and ignore the results

You didn't ask for a list of your attacks on Barack Obama. You asked:

Then post for me the relative Conservative attacks on Obama

Which I did.

I'm not going to comb through all of your posts to see if you, personally, said anything about Obama being socialist, from Kenya, a Muslim, a lizard person, or anything else. You know what you've posted, or at least I assume you do.

 

[Dittohead not!]

For someone from California who is totally ignorant of results yes, he is a disaster but for the Democratic Party not the Republican party

Trump is not just a disaster for California. He's a disaster for the country, and for the Republican Party.

Speaking of California and results, have you noticed that California's GDP growth generally outstrips that of the nation as a whole? Why do you think that might be? Is it due to California's conservative bent?

 

[haymarket]

This has been crystal clear to anyone with any awareness and an ability to read the news objectively from the start, and this is an OLD story, so hopefully is OK, IDK, but it's certainly relevant, and scares the hell out of me, and I dare say, maybe most rational observers. How can anyone be OK with a crime, on the part of the chief exec?



I find it DEEPLY disturbing, far more disturbing, than the crimes themselves, that a good quarter of America, the quarter that pretends at being suppoortive of law an order is willing to throw out their ethics for love of a demogogue.:roll:

Anybody who does recognize that Trump represents the greatest threat to America and its people since the era of fighting fascism in the Forties is simply not a rational person looking at all the evidence right before their eyes.

Trump is akin to a steaming pile of crap in the middle of the road that makes you gag and even vomit when you try to go around it. He is that vile, that repulsive and that sickening.

 

[Conservative]

You didn't ask for a list of your attacks on Barack Obama. You asked:



Which I did.

I'm not going to comb through all of your posts to see if you, personally, said anything about Obama being socialist, from Kenya, a Muslim, a lizard person, or anything else. You know what you've posted, or at least I assume you do.

Of course you aren't going to go through my posts because you have no interest in honest discussion or debate. NEVER did I personally attack Obama but rather his record which is fair game and was a disaster. You continue to give him credit for the Trump numbers and I agree. I thank Obama for giving us Trump

 

[Conservative]

Trump is not just a disaster for California. He's a disaster for the country, and for the Republican Party.

Speaking of California and results, have you noticed that California's GDP growth generally outstrips that of the nation as a whole? Why do you think that might be? Is it due to California's conservative bent?

This country will survive and actual results matter not your opinions. You want to focus on California GDP but not homelessness, poverty, high cost of living, quality of life and that shows your true character and who you are, a true leftwing radical out of touch with reality.

 

[Dittohead not!]

Of course you aren't going to go through my posts because you have no interest in honest discussion or debate. NEVER did I personally attack Obama but rather his record which is fair game and was a disaster. You continue to give him credit for the Trump numbers and I agree. I thank Obama for giving us Trump

Never did I say you personally attacked Obama. You didn't as for your own personal posts about Obama anyway Why would you?

 

[Dittohead not!]

This country will survive and actual results matter not your opinions. You want to focus on California GDP but not homelessness, poverty, high cost of living, quality of life and that shows your true character and who you are, a true leftwing radical out of touch with reality.

So, that's who ignores poverty, homelessness, and a high cost of living, and focuses on results like a growing economy, radical out of touch left wingers?

Really?

What was it you were saying about Trump and his results again? Has he addressed homelessness, poverty, and the high cost of living, or focused on economic growth?

Holy crap! You must think Trump is a radical leftwinger! Maybe you're right!

 

[Conservative]

So, that's who ignores poverty, homelessness, and a high cost of living, and focuses on results like a growing economy, radical out of touch left wingers?

Really?

What was it you were saying about Trump and his results again? Has he addressed homelessness, poverty, and the high cost of living, or focused on economic growth?

Holy crap! You must think Trump is a radical leftwinger! Maybe you're right!

3.4 Million new jobs and 1 million part time employees now working full time is a good start. Stop playing games and seeking attention. I see what you are doing here. If you want to debate go for it but just seeking attention doesn't get it. Results matter and you have offered NONE

 

[Dittohead not!]

3.4 Million new jobs and 1 million part time employees now working full time is a good start. Stop playing games and seeking attention. I see what you are doing here. If you want to debate go for it but just seeking attention doesn't get it. Results matter and you have offered NONE

I offered the same sort of results you did: economic growth. You started a bleeding heart liberal dialogue about the poor and homeless. Now, what has Trump done about the poor and homeless again? Has all that economic growth, that is now starting to turn around due to trade wars btw, trickled down to the poor and homeless?

 

[Conservative]

I offered the same sort of results you did: economic growth. You started a bleeding heart liberal dialogue about the poor and homeless. Now, what has Trump done about the poor and homeless again? Has all that economic growth, that is now starting to turn around due to trade wars btw, trickled down to the poor and homeless?

Still waiting for data to support your claims?

 

[Dittohead not!]

Still waiting for data to support your claims?

You mean so you can ignore it like you've done with the other facts I've posted, or so you can post liberal bleeding heart fantasies about how California, with its greater than USA economic growth, has ignored its poor and homeless?

 

[Conservative]

You mean so you can ignore it like you've done with the other facts I've posted, or so you can post liberal bleeding heart fantasies about how California, with its greater than USA economic growth, has ignored its poor and homeless?

Maybe that is a problem with the California education system as apparently you have no understanding as to what a fact actually is. Posting the California economic growth may make you feel good but it has done nothing to alleviate the debt owed by the people of California or closed the gap between the rich and the poor as the radical leftwing govt. you have continues to violate immigration laws, does nothing to lower regulations and taxes thus improving the cost of living, as you continue to drive taxpayers out of the state. Keep losing those taxpayers and touting the economic activity that has done nothing to lower the debt owed by you

 

[Dittohead not!]

Maybe that is a problem with the California education system as apparently you have no understanding as to what a fact actually is. Posting the California economic growth may make you feel good but it has done nothing to alleviate the debt owed by the people of California or closed the gap between the rich and the poor as the radical leftwing govt. you have continues to violate immigration laws, does nothing to lower regulations and taxes thus improving the cost of living, as you continue to drive taxpayers out of the state. Keep losing those taxpayers and touting the economic activity that has done nothing to lower the debt owed by you

The cost of living is not particularly high in comparison to other states except along the coasts, where the climate is ideal and there are more economic activities.

If the taxpayers were to start leaving those areas, then the cost of living there would go down, due to the laws of supply and demand. Liberals like yourself seem to think the cost of living has something to do with the government and political ideology, but it really has to do with basic economic laws, i.e., supply and demand. The supply of living space is low, the demand is high, and so the cost rises.

Economic growth in California has outstripped that of the country at large for some time now. That may not have trickled down to the poor and homeless, but then, whose fault is that? Bleeding heart liberals might think it is up to the rest of us to save them from their poor decisions. I think that a growing economy raises all boats, and that economic growth is a good thing for all.

 

[Conservative]

The cost of living is not particularly high in comparison to other states except along the coasts, where the climate is ideal and there are more economic activities.

If the taxpayers were to start leaving those areas, then the cost of living there would go down, due to the laws of supply and demand. Liberals like yourself seem to think the cost of living has something to do with the government and political ideology, but it really has to do with basic economic laws, i.e., supply and demand. The supply of living space is low, the demand is high, and so the cost rises.

Economic growth in California has outstripped that of the country at large for some time now. That may not have trickled down to the poor and homeless, but then, whose fault is that? Bleeding heart liberals might think it is up to the rest of us to save them from their poor decisions. I think that a growing economy raises all boats, and that economic growth is a good thing for all.

I used to give you credit for being smarter than apparently you are. Taxpayers leaving the state makes the cost of living go down? where in the hell did you come up with that little nugget? Who pays for the illegals and social programs your state has created?

What you continue to show is that leftwing liberal arrogance telling us how great your state is when the results especially social tell an entirely different story. Liberal arrogance of I got mine, the hell with everyone else resonates in all your posts. That is liberal compassion, the more people dependent the more power for the liberal elites.

Your state is so screwed up ideological and has no business being a model for the rest of the country. Great economy that hasn't translated into reducing homeless, poverty, or the cost of living. Keep promoting people leaving the state and see what that does to your tax base

 

[Dittohead not!]

1 I used to give you credit for being smarter than apparently you are. 2 Taxpayers leaving the state makes the cost of living go down? where in the hell did you come up with that little nugget? Who pays for the illegals and social programs your state has created?

3 What you continue to show is that leftwing liberal arrogance telling us how great your state is when the results especially social tell an entirely different story. Liberal arrogance of I got mine, the hell with everyone else resonates in all your posts. That is liberal compassion, the more people dependent the more power for the liberal elites.

4 Your state is so screwed up ideological and has no business being a model for the rest of the country. Great economy that hasn't translated into reducing homeless, poverty, or the cost of living. 5 Keep promoting people leaving the state and see what that does to your tax base

1 Thanks. I used to give you credit for being a conservative.
2. Please review the laws of supply and demand and get back to me. A high demand for houses leads to high real estate costs, which is the reason parts of California have a high cost of living. Other parts do not.
3. You're the one who has been arguing for liberal compassion for the poor, not me.
4. Oh, the economic benefits will trickle down eventually.
5. News flash: People are not leaving California. It still has nearly 40 million people, and growing. Meanwhile, the state economy has grown from being #8 in the world to being #5, and all the bleeding heart liberals can talk about is the poor and homeless. If Cali had the climate of Michigan, they'd all go back where they came from.

 

[Conservative]

1 Thanks. I used to give you credit for being a conservative.
2. Please review the laws of supply and demand and get back to me. A high demand for houses leads to high real estate costs, which is the reason parts of California have a high cost of living. Other parts do not.
3. You're the one who has been arguing for liberal compassion for the poor, not me.
4. Oh, the economic benefits will trickle down eventually.
5. News flash: People are not leaving California. It still has nearly 40 million people, and growing. Meanwhile, the state economy has grown from being #8 in the world to being #5, and all the bleeding heart liberals can talk about is the poor and homeless. If Cali had the climate of Michigan, they'd all go back where they came from.

The laws of supply and demand always work better when there is incentive and consequences for poor choices. Your state breeds entitlement, homeless, and poverty because you never hold people accountable for poor choices. There is no incentive for people to work but there is incentive for people to flock to California to receive all those benefits taxpayers are funding

Context matters, people not leaving California but population growing. taxpayer population growing or shrinking?

Posted before but ignored

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/19/cal...ousing-costs-and-taxes-are-fleeing-state.html

Compassion to me is tough love forcing people to get a job to earn their welfare