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Planned Parenthood admits selling baby body parts, reported in news story out Sept. 4, 2019.

Blinded by the light

Ms. Sanger performed the will of her master - satan. Satan's will is not dependent on the will of god, IT OPPOSES the will of God in every way possible. i.e. God is responsible for giving us life, satan is responsible for death. …

The Truth About Margaret Sanger


As author Daniel Flynn writes: “She was a serial adulterer. Among the scores who shared her bed were some of the most famous men of her time, including novelist H. G. Wells and sex researcher Havelock Ellis. As she cheated on her husband of the moment with not-so-secret lovers, she cheated on these paramours with still other beaus. These encounters, biographer Ellen Chesler suggests, were limited neither to members of the opposite sex nor to two participants.”[2] Sanger eventually separated from her husband in 1914.

Daniel J Flynn also claims she died addicted to the painkiller Demerol and also an alcoholic. Also nobody came to her funeral.


Convenient theology, that.

I've ignored Flynn, his connections would make him a hostile witness to Sanger's life anyway.

Chesler is an actual author. She wrote Woman of valor : Margaret Sanger and the birth control movement in America / c1992, Simon & Schuster. Sanger suffered four heart attacks (this before cardiac bypasses were routine), & she suffered other ailments as well - tubercular infections, gall bladder.

On p. 458 of her biography, Chesler writes:

In 1961, "Back in Tucson (AZ) a new doctor slowly weaned Margaret (age 82) of her addiction to painkillers and limited her to one drink a day."

She died of arteriosclerosis @ age 87 in Sept. 1966; a private funeral service was held in Tucson, lightly attended.

Weeks later, a memorial service was held @ St. George's Church on Stuyvesant Square in New York. Chesler, p.467:

"The city's heaviest rainfall in sixty-three years produced gale-force winds and tortuous traffic congestion that day, and many of the mourners arrived late for the service in the large and beautiful church."

If you cite authors, you might want to read what they actually say/write beforehand. Instead of merely cherry-picking scandalous material for the most damaging things you can find.
 
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Ms. Sanger performed the will of her master - satan. Satan's will is not dependent on the will of god, IT OPPOSES the will of God in every way possible. i.e. God is responsible for giving us life, satan is responsible for death. God is responsible for the miracle of birth, satan is responsible for destroying that miracle through abortion. Remember: Satan wants to overthrow the kingdom of God and take Gods position of authority. Sanger had free will just like every other human and she chose to further the will of evil. She is burning in hell now, responsible for the school of thought that committed over 50 million abortions, she is likely in the hottest place in hell. Its no coincidence that Sanger was a socialist. Socialists by their very nature oppose the will of God and want to see an end to the reign of capitalism. Obama, socialist, Hillary, socialist, etc etc.

The Truth About Margaret Sanger
"I accepted an invitation to talk to the women's branch of the Ku Klux Klan...I saw through the door dim figures parading with banners and illuminated crosses...I was escorted to the platform, was introduced, and began to speak...In the end, through simple illustrations I believed I had accomplished my purpose. A dozen invitations to speak to similar groups were proffered." (Margaret Sanger: An Autobiography, P.366)

As author Daniel Flynn writes: “She was a serial adulterer. Among the scores who shared her bed were some of the most famous men of her time, including novelist H. G. Wells and sex researcher Havelock Ellis. As she cheated on her husband of the moment with not-so-secret lovers, she cheated on these paramours with still other beaus. These encounters, biographer Ellen Chesler suggests, were limited neither to members of the opposite sex nor to two participants.”[2] Sanger eventually separated from her husband in 1914.

Daniel J Flynn also claims she died addicted to the painkiller Demerol and also an alcoholic. Also nobody came to her funeral.

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OK so you don't like Ms Sanger, you think she died lonely and addicted. How is this an argument against legal abortion?
 
I don't care what lying leftist courts tell you. The videos were not doctored. Democrats lie when they say they were. leading democrat politicians and judges can lie all they want, but their lies are still not true. One homosexual judge told 70% of Californians to go to hell over Proposition 8. It should not surprise us if leftist judges line up like rubes at the whorehouse to offer supporting lying claims that the videos were fake.

OK. so you think the Democrats and courts lie and the videos are not doctored. How is this an argument against legal abortion?
 
OK. so you think the Democrats and courts lie and the videos are not doctored. How is this an argument against legal abortion?

You do not say how the videos are doctored. The facts are not changed no matter what kind of editing the democrats and courts may be claiming took place.
 
You do not say how the videos are doctored. The facts are not changed no matter what kind of editing the democrats and courts may be claiming took place.

You didn't answer her question, which was "How is this an argument against legal abortion?"
 
You do not say how the videos are doctored. The facts are not changed no matter what kind of editing the democrats and courts may be claiming took place.

I'm agreeing with you: Democrats and the courts lie. The videos are telling the truth. How does any of that make legal abortion wrong?

And if those things don't make legal abortion wrong, what does?
 
I'm agreeing with you: Democrats and the courts lie. The videos are telling the truth. How does any of that make legal abortion wrong?

And if those things don't make legal abortion wrong, what does?

If you believe natural selection invented life on earth then natural selection gave humans the understanding that for a mother to kill her baby is wrong, no matter what the excuse. If You believe God created life on earth then you should know that God does not give humans the right to kill unborn babies.
 
If you believe natural selection invented life on earth then natural selection gave humans the understanding that for a mother to kill her baby is wrong, no matter what the excuse. If You believe God created life on earth then you should know that God does not give humans the right to kill unborn babies.

And that abortion is great
 
If you believe natural selection invented life on earth then natural selection gave humans the understanding that for a mother to kill her baby is wrong, no matter what the excuse.

You know it is just as easy to turn that argument around...with or without the God excuse.
 
If you believe natural selection invented life on earth then natural selection gave humans the understanding that for a mother to kill her baby is wrong, no matter what the excuse. If You believe God created life on earth then you should know that God does not give humans the right to kill unborn babies.

That is your personal religious belief. For you it is the right way to believe. How does your personal religious belief make legal abortion wrong for other people?
 
If you believe natural selection invented life on earth then natural selection gave humans the understanding that for a mother to kill her baby is wrong, no matter what the excuse. If You believe God created life on earth then you should know that God does not give humans the right to kill unborn babies.

There's nowhere in the Bible forbidding a woman from terminating her pregnancy.

It's illegal for a mother to kill her baby. Nobody is trying to change that.
 
That is your personal religious belief. For you it is the right way to believe. How does your personal religious belief make legal abortion wrong for other people?

Humans know it is wrong to kill other humans, no matter how young or old. Legalizing murder will never make it right.
 
Humans know it is wrong to kill other humans, no matter how young or old. Legalizing murder will never make it right.

Uh....ok


But abortion is great
 
OK so you think aborted "babies" are being used to make flavor additives. How is this an argument against legal abortion?

I'd like to not think that bodies are being desecrated but, this goes to show the inhumanity and evil involved around the "legal" abortion industry.
 
Humans know it is wrong to kill other humans, no matter how young or old. Legalizing murder will never make it right.

I take it you are against war and the death penalty as well as killing in self defense?
 
I'd like to not think that bodies are being desecrated but, this goes to show the inhumanity and evil involved around the "legal" abortion industry.

OK, your feelings of distress about abortion are authentic as is your belief that it is inhumane and evil. The question is why is your personal belief about abortion a legitimate reason to deny legal abortion to people who don't have the same beliefs as you do?
 
Humans know it is wrong to kill other humans, no matter how young or old. Legalizing murder will never make it right.

Your personal belief is that all abortions kill humans. That personal belief works for you and nobody is trying to tell you not to believe what you think is right. The question nobody wants to answer is why do you think your personal belief is a legitimate argument to deny legal abortion to people who do not share your beliefs?
 
OK, your feelings of distress about abortion are authentic as is your belief that it is inhumane and evil. The question is why is your personal belief about abortion a legitimate reason to deny legal abortion to people who don't have the same beliefs as you do?

I equate it to slavery. [Unborn] humans with no say in their existence. I equate it to genocide....because it's marketed to minorities.


If we're going to make it a privacy issue then why not do away with the limitations? Why not extend it to other family members, the old? Anyone who's just too inconvenient.

Why should anyone intervein to stop such practices?
 
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A self-contradicting argument

I equate it to slavery. [Unborn] humans with no say in their existence. I equate it (abortion) to genocide....because it's marketed to minorities.

If we're going to make it a privacy issue then why not do away with the limitations? Why not extend it to other family members, the old? Anyone who's just too inconvenient.

Why should anyone intervein to stop such practices?

That is an absolutely false analogy. TMK, no one - no racial nor ethnic group - has ever volunteered for genocide. Not the Jews, not the Roma, not the Armenians, not anyone.

No one markets genocide either, for the same reason - no one is willing to buy the product. Genocide is imposed by force.
 
I equate it to slavery. [Unborn] humans with no say in their existence. I equate it to genocide....because it's marketed to minorities.


If we're going to make it a privacy issue then why not do away with the limitations? Why not extend it to other family members, the old? Anyone who's just too inconvenient.

Why should anyone intervein to stop such practices?

That wasn't the question. The question is why should your personal beliefs take precedence over the law and other people's actions who do not have the same personal beliefs as yours?

Are we a country of laws or not?
 
Your personal belief is that all abortions kill humans. That personal belief works for you and nobody is trying to tell you not to believe what you think is right. The question nobody wants to answer is why do you think your personal belief is a legitimate argument to deny legal abortion to people who do not share your beliefs?

A heavy breather with male anatomy may think or pretend he is a girl but he had better stay the hell out of the girls' changing room at the public pool. That is my personal belief.
 
A heavy breather with male anatomy may think or pretend he is a girl but he had better stay the hell out of the girls' changing room at the public pool. That is my personal belief.

What has this to do w/ weaver2's question, which was:

Quote Originally Posted by weaver2 View Post
Your personal belief is that all abortions kill humans. That personal belief works for you and nobody is trying to tell you not to believe what you think is right. The question nobody wants to answer is why do you think your personal belief is a legitimate argument to deny legal abortion to people who do not share your beliefs?
 
What has this to do w/ weaver2's question, which was:

Avoidance technique. if you say something incredibly stupid people are so in awe that they forget the poster has successfully avoided a topic that calls into question their irrational thought processes. .
 
Re: A self-contradicting argument

That is an absolutely false analogy. TMK, no one - no racial nor ethnic group - has ever volunteered for genocide. Not the Jews, not the Roma, not the Armenians, not anyone.

No one markets genocide either, for the same reason - no one is willing to buy the product. Genocide is imposed by force.

Sure it is.
 
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