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Pence refuses to release his phone call with President of Ukraine

Subpoena everyone, and then prosecute for obstruction once the Mango era has concluded.
 
Paradoxical said:
Congress is abusing its power on a quest to destroy the will of the people.
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The house IS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE.

They're YOUR HOUSE.

You lost in 2018. Sucks don't it?
 
Obscurity said:
The house IS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE.

They're YOUR HOUSE.

You lost in 2018. Sucks don't it?
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Yep. Sucks that snowflakes in suits and dresses abuse the power of their office.
 
Paradoxical said:
Yep. Sucks that snowflakes in suits and dresses abuse the power of their office.
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Aww, sucks to ****ing lose, doesn't it?

Impeachment is a goddamned constitutional process. Don't like it, change the constitution.
 
JMR said:
LOL...the Republican talking points, endlessly repeated.
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I this case, talking points are known as facts. From libs, experience has shown: not so much.
 
Paradoxical said:
Doesn't matter to me. We are talking about a federal election. Not an election for mayor.
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Ok, you're not making any sense at all here.

Why do you think there is no gerrymandering in federal elections when every two years we elect an entire House of Representatives based on heavily gerrymandered districts drawn up by politicians?
 
HumblePi said:
Not really. The majority of the voters in this country believe Trump is a danger to our constitution and democracy. The will of the people is to impeach Trump and remove him. Unfortunately for the country, Republicans control the Senate and will vote to keep this criminal destroyer of democracy sitting in the Rooski Oval Office.
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Yet the only danger to it has been leftist in congress pissed they lost an election and seek to undo the results by any means necessary even to the point of corrupting our main law enforcement agency to do their dirty work for them.

Sorry but mueller shut down the leftist conspiracy theory.
 
Obscurity said:
The house IS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE.

They're YOUR HOUSE.

You lost in 2018. Sucks don't it?
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So is the president and the president doesn't work on behalf of congress.
 
Paradoxical said:
Ummm, there is no gerrymandering in federal elections. State elections, yes.
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The districts for the US House of Representatives are very gerrymandered.
 
Paradoxical said:
Congress is abusing its power on a quest to destroy the will of the people.
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YOu consider that an answer, what rot. You believe that every investigation against a GOPer is abusing power. Where were you when the GOP had eight investigations into Hillary for Benghazi. Oh that's right, they were investigating a Dems so that was just fine. And who went before the GOP controlled House and answered questions for 11 hours straight, was that trump, no that was Hillary Clinton. So do not give me that stuff about abuse of power. And the will of the people, let me think, who did a majority of the people vote for, oh yes, not Trump. That is not a good excuse for the president and the Vice president using their positions to help themselves win in 2020. It violates their oath of office.
 
independentusa said:
YOu consider that an answer, what rot. You believe that every investigation against a GOPer is abusing power. Where were you when the GOP had eight investigations into Hillary for Benghazi. Oh that's right, they were investigating a Dems so that was just fine. And who went before the GOP controlled House and answered questions for 11 hours straight, was that trump, no that was Hillary Clinton. So do not give me that stuff about abuse of power. And the will of the people, let me think, who did a majority of the people vote for, oh yes, not Trump. That is not a good excuse for the president and the Vice president using their positions to help themselves win in 2020. It violates their oath of office.
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Can you do a Google search and see if Hillary was the president at that time?
 
Paradoxical said:
Do they have special voting booths for Mr. Electoral College" people?
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Do you understand how the electoral college works?
The Electoral College is a process, not a place. The founding fathers established it in the Constitution as a compromise between election of the President by a vote in Congress and election of the President by a popular vote of qualified citizens.

The Electoral College process consists of the selection of the electors, the meeting of the electors where they vote for President and Vice President, and the counting of the electoral votes by Congress.

The Electoral College consists of 538 electors. A majority of 270 electoral votes is required to elect the President. Your state’s entitled allotment of electors equals the number of members in its Congressional delegation: one for each member in the House of Representatives plus two for your Senators. Read more about the allocation of electoral votes.

Under the 23rd Amendment of the Constitution, the District of Columbia is allocated 3 electors and treated like a state for purposes of the Electoral College. For this reason, in the following discussion, the word “state” also refers to the District of Columbia.

Each candidate running for President in your state has his or her own group of electors. The electors are generally chosen by the candidate’s political party, but state laws vary on how the electors are selected and what their responsibilities are. Read more about the qualifications of the Electors and restrictions on who the Electors may vote for.

The presidential election is held every four years on the Tuesday after the first Monday in November. You help choose your state’s electors when you vote for President because when you vote for your candidate you are actually voting for your candidate’s electors.
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Paradoxical said:
Congress is abusing its power on a quest to destroy the will of the people.
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The will of the people was not what got Trump elected. He did not win the popular vote and his popularity has not moved much since his election.
 
Carleen said:
The will of the people was not what got Trump elected. He did not win the popular vote and his popularity has not moved much since his election.
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When will leftists get over the electoral college? You will need to change the constitution to do that. Until then get less radical candidates who know how to campaign like the masterful Donald Trump did, who had the stamina to campaign up to midnight of the final day while the other candidate didn't bother with such trivial matters.

Actually, the 2016 election was an excellent case study of how and why the electoral college is important, which Hillary apparently didn't realize. Trump campaigned heavily in states that Hillary ignored because she thought she had it in the bag. If there was no electoral college, the only states that would get any attention would be the most populated ones. The smaller states would be shunned and ignored and their needs would go unmet. We are not Europe or Russia. We are 50 individual states. Some states have needs and ideas that are different from the liberal ones like California< oregon, New York in areas of commerce, manufacturing, job potentials etc. That is why the electoral college is there....so presidential candidates don't ignore the less populated states and California wouldn't get to elect presidents all the time.
 
Paradoxical said:
When will leftists get over the electoral college? You will need to change the constitution to do that. Until then get less radical candidates who know how to campaign like the masterful Donald Trump did, who had the stamina to campaign up to midnight of the final day while the other candidate didn't bother with such trivial matters.

Actually, the 2016 election was an excellent case study of how and why the electoral college is important, which Hillary apparently didn't realize. Trump campaigned heavily in states that Hillary ignored because she thought she had it in the bag. If there was no electoral college, the only states that would get any attention would be the most populated ones. The smaller states would be shunned and ignored and their needs would go unmet. We are not Europe or Russia. We are 50 individual states. Some states have needs and ideas that are different from the liberal ones like California< oregon, New York in areas of commerce, manufacturing, job potentials etc. That is why the electoral college is there....so presidential candidates don't ignore the less populated states and California wouldn't get to elect presidents all the time.
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I’ll get over the electoral college when people stop saying Trump was elected by the will of the people. What needs to happen is an equal amount of purple states and the electoral college will be unnecessary.
 
Carleen said:
I’ll get over the electoral college when people stop saying Trump was elected by the will of the people. What needs to happen is an equal amount of purple states and the electoral college will be unnecessary.
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Liberals always have this notion that things need to be equal and if they aren't life is unfair. Life has NEVER been fair. The founding fathers knew there would be some states that would be more populated and as they looked into the future, they foresaw that a populated state could rule the entire nation just like California tries to do. Pelosi (from California) said that "We are still in the Paris agreement" which goes to prove my point. She thinks she is president and that California calls the shots. She doesn't and California doesn't. I cringe to think of the horrible world that be if it were true.
 
Paradoxical said:
Liberals always have this notion that things need to be equal and if they aren't life is unfair. Life has NEVER been fair. The founding fathers knew there would be some states that would be more populated and as they looked into the future, they foresaw that a populated state could rule the entire nation just like California tries to do. Pelosi (from California) said that "We are still in the Paris agreement" which goes to prove my point. She thinks she is president and that California calls the shots. She doesn't and California doesn't. I cringe to think of the horrible world that be if it were true.
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That would never happen and you know it, but your prerogative to say. As for being in the Paris agreement, when she said that we still were. What would be a horrible world is if our enemies succeeded in interfering in our elections and since nothing is being done to pass legislation to prevent this is worrisome to say the least. McConnell refuses to bring the current bill to a vote makes me wonder.
 
Carleen said:
That would never happen and you know it, but your prerogative to say. As for being in the Paris agreement, when she said that we still were. What would be a horrible world is if our enemies succeeded in interfering in our elections and since nothing is being done to pass legislation to prevent this is worrisome to say the least. McConnell refuses to bring the current bill to a vote makes me wonder.
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Because the interference by Russia was minimal. It amounted to placement of a few ads on Facebook. Your government wants you think Russia wanted Trump to win, when it was Hillary they wanted.

By the way, has anyone seen these Russian ads or are we just supposed t believe Weismann who wrote the report. I haven't. Have you? Has anyone?
 
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