Paul Ryan is an excellent choice for Vice President!

[haymarket]

You responded to this:

"And in January 2010, Ryan pro-actively and boldly unveiled his “Roadmap for America’s Future,” a proposal to eliminate the federal deficit, reform the tax code, and preserve entitlements for future generations."

By talking about the debt. Eliminating the deficit is an attainable goal, paying off the debt is another story (although eliminating deficit spending is the first step).

We cannot talk about one without consideration of the other. Is not the entire point of balancing the current budget deficit to stop the growing debt and begin paying it off?

 

[haymarket]

if major league republican strategists were complaining then I would care. when obama toadies who are paid to help obama get elected (Democratic strategists) say something we all know that all they will say is stuff designed to help their lord and master

YOU are wedded body and soul to Mittens because he will give you a tax break. As such you will say anything and agree with anything that furthers that goal.

 

[haymarket]

I am sure that is true. Since the entirety of democratic strategy is demonization, deceit and demagoguery, Ryan is the perfect choice. Too bad it wont work this time.

Lets indulge your over the top hyperbole and character assassination for the moment.....

tell us exactly in detail why attacks on the Romney/Ryan ticket will not work.

 

[Fletch]

Lets indulge your over the top hyperbole and character assassination for the moment.....

There was neither in my post.

tell us exactly in detail why attacks on the Romney/Ryan ticket will not work.

Now why would I do that? Tell you what, I will fill you in on November 7.

 

[haymarket]

There was neither in my post.

Now why would I do that? Tell you what, I will fill you in on November 7.

Sure it was

Since the entirety of democratic strategy is demonization, deceit and demagoguery,

over the top hyperbole and character assassination to the extreme.


As I thought, you have not the slightest idea but you BELIEVE strongly.

 

[Fletch]

As I thought, you have not the slightest idea but you BELIEVE strongly.

You are right, the dem tactics cant possibly fail. Tell your masters full speed ahead.

But I promise to fill you in anyway after the election

 

[tryreading]

Lets indulge your over the top hyperbole and character assassination for the moment.....

He is a Libertarian and obviously a radio listener, his statement is word-for-word Neal Boortz.

 

[PIZ]

Romney and Ryan are on the offense, and moving forward strongly and effectively.

Delusional.

 

[TurtleDude]

YOU are wedded body and soul to Mittens because he will give you a tax break. As such you will say anything and agree with anything that furthers that goal.

My support of Romney is because Obama is a complete failure and he panders to envy, failure and a hatred of the successful as well as the parasites who think they are entitled to the wealth of others

Obama is a scourge to America and many of his supporters are hateful towards everything that made this country Great

and those who derive income from having the dems in power obviously are biased when it comes to their support of dem policies designed to keep dem politicians in power

 

[TurtleDude]

Delusional.

It appears as the election draws closer our board will be filled with such silly posts coming from "undisclosed" partisans

Yawn

 

[Porchev]

We cannot talk about one without consideration of the other. Is not the entire point of balancing the current budget deficit to stop the growing debt and begin paying it off?

:doh Words mean things, a "proposal to eliminate the federal deficit" means what is says. Of course eliminating the deficit will help the debt problem, but they still are two different things.

 

[Fletch]

He is a Libertarian and obviously a radio listener, his statement is word-for-word Neal Boortz.

Never listened to him. Sorry, back to the drawing board you go.

 

[IndepCentristMA]

Where do you come up with this nonsense? Do you just make it up as you go along? Nobody said that he needed to appeal to Democrats. You just invented that out of your own imagination.

Democratic strategists love the pick because we had feared it would be Rubio. That would have given Mittens Florida and an inroad into the growing demographic of Hispanics. He blew that opportunity.

He just lost lots of independents in places like Florida which he needs to win in the fall.

Mittens now needs to
1- learn the ins and outs of the Ryan plan
2- be able to defend it
3- explain to the American people why middle class people should be willing to sacrifice their life style so that the rich can have even more

Good luck to Mittens on that.

That is why we are happy with this.

LMFAO @ Democrats mistaking the duties of the President and Vice President...

It's not the Ryan budget that will get submitted... That was created for 2 years ago...

Next year we would be given the Romney budget, not the Ryan one...

Also, don't think become up to date with minute details of a budget is anything Romney will have trouble doing... it's his specialty... Plus, he is extremely adept at reading statements and taking out the particular details and commiting them to memory... He did this to exemplary plaudits in MA as Governor in the wake of the cieling tile collapse in the I-90 connector... coming up to speed with the individual size bolts that were screwed in, and the percentage epoxy that was wrongly used and what it was supposed to be, etc. and was able to elaborate in full, amidst questions in a statement to the press sans teleprompters after only a day or so... Everyone who has worked with Romney often speaks to his great ability to have command of the details... don't underestimate the guy...

 

[IndepCentristMA]

We cannot talk about one without consideration of the other. Is not the entire point of balancing the current budget deficit to stop the growing debt and begin paying it off?

Right... exactly...

Ryan has proposed necessary cuts and has gotten a negative reaction to it...

Obama says let's tax the rich and keep on spending... and people are flocking to the idea...

The only difference is, Ryan's plan actually could work... if revenue increases, and spending growth is slowed... then revenue could catch up and balance... Under Obama, spending continues to increase... this persistent $1T deficit could not be covered by raising taxes alone... Raising taxes on the rich will only bring up revenue by $150B.... that barely covers ObamaCare... and wouldn't even bring the deficit below $1T... Obama isn't willing to accept the necessary cuts that need to be made in order to prevent the utter collapse of the US...

Still... the major difference... Ryans plan was submitted in 2010 as an opening salvo in a conversation that needs to happen on finding the ways to cut and cut now... and ways to revise the entitlement programs...

In 2013, the Ryan budget will not be submitted... what will be submitted is the Romney FY2014 budget... which will look similar in some was to the Ryan budget, but more similar in other ways to the things that Romney has been speaking about doing since 2008... IDK why you falsely presume Ryans budget will take precident to Romneys plans in the Romney administration...

 

[Crosscheck]

Yeah, he sure is a guy who gets things done...


"He's been in Congress for nearly 13 years, but Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) has only seen two of his bills pass into law during that time.

Ryan, who Mitt Romney has tapped as his running mate, passed a bill into law in July 2000 that renames a post office in his district. Thanks to Ryan, the post office on 1818 Milton Ave. in Janesville, Wis., is now known as "Les Aspin Post Office Building."

The other time Ryan saw one of his bills become law was in December 2008, with legislation to change the way arrows (as in bows and arrows) are hit with an excise tax. Specifically, his bill amended the Internal Revenue Code to impose a 39-cent tax per arrow shaft, instead of a 12.4 percent tax on the sales price. The bill also "includes points suitable for use with arrows in the 11 percent excise tax on arrow parts and accessories."

Kevin Seifert, Ryan's congressional spokesman, did not respond to a request for comment."

Paul Ryan Only Passed 2 Bills Into Law In More Than A Decade

That is a surprise that I didn't expect. So much for that myth of him sleeping in his office. Definitely going to cost him the bow hunters vote.

 

[ALiberalModerate]

Ryan is not an idiot (Palin and to a lesser extent Quayle), he is not a complete nutter (Palin), he is not a totally despicable human being (Palin, Cheney), he is not white trash with money (Palin) and he is not practically evil (Cheney), so all in all I think he is a pretty good choice for Romney. I don't think he will help him win (VPs never do other than JFK/LBJ), but I don't think he will be a drag on Romney come November like Palin was for McCain.

 

[Porchev]

Actually, it is indeed relevant as they will be the ones loading and aiming the gun at the Romney/Ryan target.

Wow, nice gun analogy, I am sure if Republicans used analogies like that you would freak out.

And for America's Comeback Team to worry and be on the defensive about what those Democrat strategists say is a waste of time. Romney and Ryan are rightly on offense and pressing forward.

 

[IndepCentristMA]

It appears as the election draws closer our board will be filled with such silly posts coming from "undisclosed" partisans

Yawn

Right... or the sudden appearance of "conservative"s that weren't around during the primary process... but then claim to be conservatives who dislike Romney... that eventhough they've only posted 50 times 20 of those times were to start threads, and 20 other were threads they found way back in the archives of actual conservative discussions...

 

[PIZ]

It appears as the election draws closer our board will be filled with such silly posts coming from "undisclosed" partisans

Yawn

Just because I don't think Romney and Ryan are "moving forward strongly and effectively" doesn't make me partisan. It's pretty evident to anyone watching this campaign so far that Romney has been on defense for the majority of it and that Romney is behind in the polls.

My political leaning is undisclosed because I just joined today and honestly, I'm not sure what to call myself anymore.

 

[IndepCentristMA]

Just because I don't think Romney and Ryan are "moving forward strongly and effectively" doesn't make me partisan. It's pretty evident to anyone watching this campaign so far that Romney has been on defense for the majority of it and that Romney is behind in the polls.

My political leaning is undisclosed because I just joined today and honestly, I'm not sure what to call myself anymore.

LMFAO @ on the defensive...

Obama started the campaign cycle with the support of 45% of the people... and that's where his numbers still are...

Romney started the campaign process with 12% of the Republican primary support... and now has about 43% of the vote, with 12% of the nation undecided...

Romney has been constantly gaining support, and that's swelled and upset the Democrats, so they've spend billions of dollars on negative campaigns, and Romney is still in the election... topping the latest Gallup and Rasmussen polls...

Obama is the one on the defensive, and he has a weak indefensible position...

$16T in debt, $5T added under this administration, more and quicker than any president ever before...

A persistent deficit over $1T, under the guise that it was spending to fix the economy, which is not yet fixed...

A slowing GDP, which has dropped below the price of inflation... rising 8.3% unemployment rate... an unprecidented 2% drop in the workforce participation rate... slowing consumer confidence... lowered average incomes... more people on welfare than ever before...

This isn't the result people wanted out of $15 trillion spend in 4 years...

As well, the majority of people in the US have been against the Bailouts, ObamaCare, and Gay Marriage... positions the president consistently takes...

The biggest position that prevents the president's potential to get re-elected is his instistence on getting fossil fuel prices to elevated rates to foster the change to green technologies... Even at the expense of hurting their ability to cool/heat their houses, as well as to get to and from work, school, errands... With gasoline prices upwards of $3.50/gal in most parts of the country, people are fed up with the way things are...

this will be something people remember when they enter the voting booths... the issues that hurt their wallet...

 

[AdamT]

LMFAO @ on the defensive...

Obama started the campaign cycle with the support of 45% of the people... and that's where his numbers still are...

Romney started the campaign process with 12% of the Republican primary support... and now has about 43% of the vote, with 12% of the nation undecided...

Romney has been constantly gaining support, and that's swelled and upset the Democrats, so they've spend billions of dollars on negative campaigns, and Romney is still in the election... topping the latest Gallup and Rasmussen polls...

Obama is the one on the defensive, and he has a weak indefensible position...

Allow me to do the introductions. Rhetoric, reality. Reality, rhetoric.

 

[cpwill]

I think he has the experience and backbone to do some great things. Of course the Democrats are going to do everything they can to attack him and negatively spin his ideas to reform and save Medicare and other things, but no matter who was the Republican VP candidate they would try to destroy anyway. Romney is on offense with a bold choice like Ryan. And that is a good thing.

I agree. And I'm glad that Romney decided (apparently, though we shall see if he sticks to it) to respond to Obama's Offense via Personal Attacks with an Offense via Policy Attacks.

Campaigns should be about who has the better ideas, not who can convince more people that the other is a bloodsucking corporate vampire / kenyan-born communist.

And once Romney is in the General, and can actually use all that money he's been raising, I expect that is precisely what we shall see.

 

[cpwill]

tell us exactly in detail why attacks on the Romney/Ryan ticket will not work.

They are too easily refuted, Ryan is the best at doing so, and Romney will have the resources to make sure it happens.

 

[PIZ]

should be about who has the better ideas, not who can convince more people that the other is a bloodsucking corporate vampire / kenyan-born communist

Or a socialist business hater/ military voter suppressor/ work to welfare gutter.

 

[cpwill]

If I was Romney I would continue to talk about the work-to-welfare; that's an important policy switch, it's illegal (thought not too many people will care about that), and more importantly, it is Obama bolstering Republicans narrative that he seeks to increase government dependency.

But yes, Obama does not hate businesses (he just distrusts and doesn't understand them), and he's not stupid enough to overtly seek to suppress military votes.