Ok, I acknowledge I have "white privilege". Now what?

[blackjack50]

Ok, I acknowledge I have "white privilege". Now what?

Weird, i dont see ONE answer to my questions in your post, not one? i wonder why LMAO

Because your question is pointless. You believe in this myth called White's privilege. I work my ass off and see very little privilege. In fact. The stuff I do see? It has nothing to do with race. And your constantly telling me that my hard work is meaningless? That i can just slack off and it will be ok because I'm white? That's ****ing hilarious. I'm battling to keep my girlfriend and I afloat right now. I'm winning. And it isn't because of my skin color. It is because I spend 10 hours a day in a job I despise because it pays decent money and gives me mediocre benefits so that I can keep us fed. Why? So my girlfriend can bust her ass to get a doctorate.

So you keep telling me that I am privileged because I'm white. It is a ****ing lie. I don't get a paycheck each month from NAAWP for being white. I get a check because I go in and do work at that ****hole. And when we are stable above water? I will kick back a little on the fruits of MY labor. Not my skin color.

Ill answer your question, the answer is i dont know, you are talking about ONLY two people and all you controlled is an amount of money, free education and no kid. Either could succeed, either could fail.

That is THE answer. Period. Life doesn't control for ****. You either succeed or you fail. If you want to cry like a little bitch that your skin is a darker shade and maybe mommy didn't stay with daddy and daddy isn't there...boo ****ing whooo. Guess what? You are going to have to work our ass off. And anyone telling you that you are at a disadvantage because your skin? Because you aren't this or that? They are ******s who believe it is ok to fail. It isn't. They won't give the same excuse to whites or Asians. Why not? Why are whites held to a different standard? It is because they believe in their heart that blacks can't do it.

but the honest reality is this: Take 100 white males and 100 black males. Make them equal in as much as you can think of: intellectual ability, physical ability, family structure, financial stability or instability, morals, culture etc etc and then release them into the country in pairs. On avg the white males will end up better off than the black ones and and that will be because of the structure and nuances of our society. Just reality :shrug:

On average you believe blacks are less able than whites. Even when they are just as smart and just as financially well off. Even when they believe in work and family. They just aren't equal in your mind.

I'm the racist for believing that hard work and dedication is the key to success?

The crowd is not the sum of its parts.

I am a republican who did not vote for Trump (Or Hillary).

 

[jaeger19]

The fact that you did not realize that I am stating that whites and blacks in rural America are essentially identical tells me that you do not understand my post.

Did you miss that? I will repeat this as I have done so on this fforum 1000times... I have more in common with black people in my region and community tthan Ido with white people from Portland. Or from New York. Even Miami. Rural white and black's tend to value the same things. Thus they tend to have similar results. If you want to find something to be offended by...be offended by the fact that I think rural society is superior or at least...has better cultural values...than urban ones. Say what you want...At least I don't believe that blacks are inferior to whites.

White privilege has nothing to do with whether you think you are superior or inferior to black people.

If has to do with the fact.. that as a white person you have certain advantages over a black person based on the color of your skin.

You are more likely to get a call back for a job.. than a black person with the same background as you.

You are more likely to get a larger tip than a black person server doing the exact same labor

You are less likely to get stopped by the police

You are less likely to get punished for a traffic violation than a black person doing the same offense

If you commit a crime.. you are likely to get a lighter sentence than a black person for the same crime.. etc.

If you apply for a mortgage you are more likely to get a better interest rate than a black person with the same financials.

 

[jaeger19]

Re: Ok, I acknowledge I have "white privilege". Now what?

Because your question is pointless. You believe in this myth called White's privilege. I work my ass off and see very little privilege. In fact. The stuff I do see? It has nothing to do with race. And your constantly telling me that my hard work is meaningless? That i can just slack off and it will be ok because I'm white? That's ****ing hilarious. ?

Just so you know.. that's not white privilege. Its NOT that "your hard work doesn't matter"..

Its that if you work hard. and a black person works equally hard.. you are better off in many ways than the black person.

They won't give the same excuse to whites or Asians. Why not? Why are whites held to a different standard?

Well that's because stereotypically.. whites and Asians are seen as being smarter and better.. which gives them advantages in hiring etc...

So when a white person doesn;t fall into the stereotype and is extremely lazy or stupid society is less likely to tolerate it.

but at the end of the day.. the white people that work hard.. get more advantages than the black person that works just as hard.

 

[blackjack50]

White privilege has nothing to do with whether you think you are superior or inferior to black people.

It absolutely does. When you start accepting that some people are inherently less able...you start believing you are more able.

If has to do with the fact.. that as a white person you have certain advantages over a black person based on the color of your skin.

You are more likely to get a call back for a job.. than a black person with the same background as you.

A) how often are equal candidates applying for the same job?

B) against the law.

C) prove that it was specifically race.

You are more likely to get a larger tip than a black person server doing the exact same labor

Prove it has anything to do with race.

You are less likely to get stopped by the police

You are less likely to get punished for a traffic violation than a black person doing the same offense

If you commit a crime.. you are likely to get a lighter sentence than a black person for the same crime.. etc.

Host of factors in these. And I will give that there is some slight edge to the scale. But only if you are willing to acknowledge that most of the people who suffer disproportionally to law enforcement are poor and generally react poorly to law enforcement. Which is reflected in the types of whites most likely to be arrested, stopped, or sentenced.

If you apply for a mortgage you are more likely to get a better interest rate than a black person with the same financials.

Again. Illegal. And you must prove that is actually happening in a specific case. This isn't the 1960s.

 

[AGENT J]

Re: Ok, I acknowledge I have "white privilege". Now what?

1.)Because your question is pointless.
2.) You believe in this myth called White's privilege.
3.) I work my ass off and see very little privilege.
4.) In fact. The stuff I do see? It has nothing to do with race.
5.) And your constantly telling me that my hard work is meaningless?
6.) That i can just slack off and it will be ok because I'm white? That's ****ing hilarious.
7.) I'm battling to keep my girlfriend and I afloat right now. I'm winning.
8.) And it isn't because of my skin color.
9.) It is because I spend 10 hours a day in a job I despise because it pays decent money and gives me mediocre benefits so that I can keep us fed. Why? So my girlfriend can bust her ass to get a doctorate.
10.)So you keep telling me that I am privileged because I'm white.
11.) It is a ****ing lie.
12.) I don't get a paycheck each month from NAAWP for being white.
13.) I get a check because I go in and do work at that ****hole. And when we are stable above water? I will kick back a little on the fruits of MY labor. Not my skin color.
14.)That is THE answer. Period.
15.) Life doesn't control for ****. You either succeed or you fail. If you want to cry like a little bitch that your skin is a darker shade and maybe mommy didn't stay with daddy and daddy isn't there...boo ****ing whooo.
16.) Guess what? You are going to have to work our ass off.
17.) And anyone telling you that you are at a disadvantage because your skin? Because you aren't this or that? They are ******s who believe it is ok to fail. It isn't. They won't give the same excuse to whites or Asians. Why not? Why are whites held to a different standard?
18.) It is because they believe in their heart that blacks can't do it.
19.)On average you believe blacks are less able than whites. Even when they are just as smart and just as financially well off. Even when they believe in work and family. They just aren't equal in your mind.
20.)I'm the racist for believing that hard work and dedication is the key to success?

1.) translation: you cant answer them because the totally destroy and expose tyour post and the retarded strawman in them, thats what I thought
2.) my "believes" dont matter, it exist with or without me believing
3.) meaningless and retarded strawman #1
4.) meaningless and retarded strawman #2
5.) Retarded LIE #1 (qoute me saying that)
6.) Retarded LIE #2 (qoute me saying that)
7.) meaningless and retarded strawman #3
8.) meaningless and retarded strawman #4 (Quote me saying it was)
9.) meaningless and retarded strawman #5
10.) Retarded LIE #3 (qoute me saying that)
11.) LMAO oh boy here comes full meltdown mode
12.) meaningless and retarded strawman #6
13.) meaningless and retarded strawman #7 and failed insult
14.) you didnt give any answer to any question i asked all you did is post a retarded lying uncontrollable angry meltdown that nobody honest, educate and objective will take seriously
15.) meaningless and retarded strawman #6
16.) i already do :shrug:
17.) you mean higly educated and honest and supported by reality
18.) retarded lie #4
19.) retarded lie #5 (qoute me saying that)
20.) aaaaaand retarded lie #5

wow ive never seen a post fail so completely hard before. No questions that were actually asked were answered, most of that wasnt even coherent and the rest was nothing but retarded straw men and 100% factual lies. thanks for the laugh!
We'll be here waiting when you can answer the questions and address the topic, thanks!
opcorn2:

 

[Kal'Stang]

but the honest reality is this: Take 100 white males and 100 black males. Make them equal in as much as you can think of: intellectual ability, physical ability, family structure, financial stability or instability, morals, culture etc etc and then release them into the country in pairs. On avg the white males will end up better off than the black ones and and that will be because of the structure and nuances of our society. Just reality :shrug:

This is the problem with this social justice mantra. They try to make a claim based on fiction. In reality no one is equal. No one is the same. No one is just as smart as someone else. No one has the same values. No one has the same experiences. No one has the same financial abilities. No one has the same education.

No one is the same. Every single person on this planet is different from ANYONE else. Period.

As such making this claim is disingenuous at best. Because there will always be different outcomes due to the fact that no one is the same. And everyone knows this. Which is why its a disingenuous claim.

 

[AGENT J]

1.) This is the problem with this social justice mantra. They try to make a claim based on fiction.
2.) In reality no one is equal. No one is the same. No one is just as smart as someone else. No one has the same values. No one has the same experiences. No one has the same financial abilities. No one has the same education. No one is the same. Every single person on this planet is different from ANYONE else. Period.
3.)As such making this claim is disingenuous at best. Because there will always be different outcomes due to the fact that no one is the same. And everyone knows this. Which is why its a disingenuous claim.

1.)well since its not BASED on fiction at all theres zero problem. its disengenous to claim it was, my point and question was set up in a way for even the small minority to be able to acknowledge the easily seeable reality. Not a bases.
2.) I agree glad i ddint say otherwise
3.) nope note at all, like science and math and many many other examples that are explained with a certain detail to highlight reality so other distractions that dont matter are eliminated.
easy example to show your assignment is factually wrong:

Everybody is not the same strength and does not have the same coordination FACT right? yes
and because of physics the foundation of the best batting mechanics are about the same correct? yes
but if they do not recieve the same pitches or same umpire calls different results can happen. right? of course

now take the same thing i just said but change the beginning, the same would still be true if i made ever player have the same strength and hand eye coronation but they still got different pitches and calls :shrug:.

sorry but my example holds very firm, isnt based on fiction nor is it disingenuous at all in anyway, i only removed distraction so people could focus on the important and honest points. Hope that helps.

 

[Kal'Stang]

1.)well since its not BASED on fiction at all theres zero problem. its disengenous to claim it was, my point and question was set up in a way for even the small minority to be able to acknowledge the easily seeable reality. Not a bases.
2.) I agree glad i ddint say otherwise
3.) nope note at all, like science and math and many many other examples that are explained with a certain detail to highlight reality so other distractions that dont matter are eliminated.
easy example to show your assignment is factually wrong:

Everybody is not the same strength and does not have the same coordination FACT right? yes
and because of physics the foundation of the best batting mechanics are about the same correct? yes
but if they do not recieve the same pitches or same umpire calls different results can happen. right? of course

now take the same thing i just said but change the beginning, the same would still be true if i made ever player have the same strength and hand eye coronation but they still got different pitches and calls :shrug:.

sorry but my example holds very firm, isnt based on fiction nor is it disingenuous at all in anyway, i only removed distraction so people could focus on the important and honest points. Hope that helps.

Except of course if you make everyone the same strength you take out all the variables that can happen. IE: Even IF everyone had the same strength, which they don't, the amount of different pitches and calls are limited on how many variables are possible. Add in the different strengths, which is reality, and the amount of variables expands far more than if everyone had the same strength. And since you cannot make everyone have the same strength and hand eye coordination that means that taking those variables out, which is what you are trying to do, is purposely trying to limit the amount of variables in order to come to a pre-determined outcome.

Plain fact of the matter is that if you want an honest answer then you have to use all the variables possible. Not limit them. Because life does not.

 

[ecofarm]

This is the problem with this social justice mantra. They try to make a claim based on fiction. In reality no one is equal. No one is the same. No one is just as smart as someone else. No one has the same values. No one has the same experiences. No one has the same financial abilities. No one has the same education.

No one is the same. Every single person on this planet is different from ANYONE else. Period..

Strawman. No one makes the claim you invent.

Equal before the law and equal in treatment. Equal opportunity.

With such an absurd misconception of the push for equality, it's no wonder social justice is a boogeymen to you.

 

[Critter7r]

The fact that you did not realize that I am stating that whites and blacks in rural America are essentially identical tells me that you do not understand my post.

And I'm saying that when you take a white or a black person out of that environment and (for example), dress them in a suit and send them on a job interview, the black person is less likely to get that job.

Did you miss that? I will repeat this as I have done so on this fforum 1000times... I have more in common with black people in my region and community than I do with white people from Portland. Or from New York. Even Miami. Rural white and blacks tend to value the same things. Thus they tend to have similar results. If you want to find something to be offended by...be offended by the fact that I think rural society is superior or at least...has better cultural values...than urban ones. Say what you want...At least I don't believe that blacks are inferior to whites.

And neither do I. But society in general, as a whole, by and large, on the macro, does.

 

[Critter7r]

Re: Ok, I acknowledge I have "white privilege". Now what?

Hold on now.

Culture is VASTLY different than race.

lol ... but you specifically said "urban black culture".

You literally equated "urban" with "black". So you may want to rethink just how unbiased your outlook really is.

Race is your skin. It is outward. Culture is not. And there are ABSOLUTELY superior cultural values. At least when it comes to determining success. And sure...those are related to nation...I'm betting you find certain cultural values abhorrent yourself. Like subjugation of women and hanging gays. So since (and i am assuming) you find those less appealing...why do you accept a cultural value that denounces education. Be it white redneck OR urban black? Why is that type of thinking acceptable to you?

That I abhor practices of other cultures doesn't mean I don't accept that it is their reality. Those values may not be acceptable to me, but it is acceptable to me that they find it acceptable. Who am I to judge? I can have the desire to improve a situation without judging negatively a person that is in that situation.

 

[Critter7r]

It absolutely does. When you start accepting that some people are inherently less able...you start believing you are more able.

A) how often are equal candidates applying for the same job?

B) against the law.

C) prove that it was specifically race.

Prove it has anything to do with race.

Host of factors in these. And I will give that there is some slight edge to the scale. But only if you are willing to acknowledge that most of the people who suffer disproportionally to law enforcement are poor and generally react poorly to law enforcement. Which is reflected in the types of whites most likely to be arrested, stopped, or sentenced.

Again. Illegal. And you must prove that is actually happening in a specific case. This isn't the 1960s.

Post 542 ...

Okay:

http://www.nber.org/digest/sep03/w9873.html

https://www.aclu.org/sites/default/files/assets/141027_iachr_racial_disparities_aclu_submission_0.pdf

 

[Kal'Stang]

Strawman. No one makes the claim you invent.

Equal before the law and equal in treatment. Equal opportunity.

With such an absurd misconception of the push for equality, it's no wonder social justice is a boogeymen to you.

Where's the strawman? Agent J literally stated "Make them equal in as much as you can think of: intellectual ability, physical ability, family structure, financial stability or instability, morals, culture etc etc" which is an impossibility. Do you not know what strawman arguments are? Because if you think I made a strawman out of his argument then I suspect you do not.

You can have equal before the law. In fact that is part of the 14th Amendment. You can even have equal opportunity to apply for a job. But what you cannot have is equality in everything for everyone because people are not equal in everything.

 

[AGENT J]

Except of course if you make everyone the same strength you take out all the variables that can happen. IE: Even IF everyone had the same strength, which they don't, the amount of different pitches and calls are limited on how many variables are possible. Add in the different strengths, which is reality, and the amount of variables expands far more than if everyone had the same strength. And since you cannot make everyone have the same strength and hand eye coordination that means that taking those variables out, which is what you are trying to do, is purposely trying to limit the amount of variables in order to come to a pre-determined outcome.

Plain fact of the matter is that if you want an honest answer then you have to use all the variables possible. Not limit them. Because life does not.

1.) its actually not a fact, nor is it a matter for an honest answer. giving an faulty excuse not to answer is silly.the actual fact is that is not needed for an honest answer cause answers have already been given that were honest and based on common sense thinking. Are you telling me in my scenario you think that both sides would, on avg fair the same? Your opinion of it being fantasy or not doesnt matter. Just simply answer the question. what side fairs better, the same or worse. its a simple an honest question with a honest answer very possible.

2.) next as i already explained the honesty is already there, on avg they do not receive the same pitches and calls so thats the disparity and the the limit which life in this country does present.

now not saying YOU Kalstang this is just in case any dishonest posters gets ready to chime in with their retarded strawmen.

the disparity is NOT an excuse to not try
the disparity is NOT an excuse to give up
the disparity is NOT a reason for guilt
the disparity does NOT mean any person is lesser or greater
the disparity does not mean every white person has it easy and doesnt have to work
the disparity does not mean that there are no blacks that have it easier than whites
the disparity does not mean working hard is meaningless
the disparity does not mean theres no personal responsibility

etc etc and the long list of other meaningless straw man that has nothing to do with WP.

 

[blackjack50]

Re: Ok, I acknowledge I have "white privilege". Now what?

1.) translation: you cant answer them because the totally destroy and expose tyour post and the retarded strawman in them, thats what I thought
2.) my "believes" dont matter, it exist with or without me believing
3.) meaningless and retarded strawman #1
4.) meaningless and retarded strawman #2
5.) Retarded LIE #1 (qoute me saying that)
6.) Retarded LIE #2 (qoute me saying that)
7.) meaningless and retarded strawman #3
8.) meaningless and retarded strawman #4 (Quote me saying it was)
9.) meaningless and retarded strawman #5
10.) Retarded LIE #3 (qoute me saying that)
11.) LMAO oh boy here comes full meltdown mode
12.) meaningless and retarded strawman #6
13.) meaningless and retarded strawman #7 and failed insult
14.) you didnt give any answer to any question i asked all you did is post a retarded lying uncontrollable angry meltdown that nobody honest, educate and objective will take seriously
15.) meaningless and retarded strawman #6
16.) i already do :shrug:
17.) you mean higly educated and honest and supported by reality
18.) retarded lie #4
19.) retarded lie #5 (qoute me saying that)
20.) aaaaaand retarded lie #5

wow ive never seen a post fail so completely hard before. No questions that were actually asked were answered, most of that wasnt even coherent and the rest was nothing but retarded straw men and 100% factual lies. thanks for the laugh!
We'll be here waiting when you can answer the questions and address the topic, thanks!
opcorn2:

So here you sit not telling me what privileges I've seen because i am white...pushing an idea that I'm privileged...even though I work like everyone else. Stating very clearly that blacks can't succeed regardless of effort or intelligence or education.

That's racist.

The crowd is not the sum of its parts.

I am a republican who did not vote for Trump (Or Hillary).

 

[blackjack50]

And I'm saying that when you take a white or a black person out of that environment and (for example), dress them in a suit and send them on a job interview, the black person is less likely to get that job.



And neither do I. But society in general, as a whole, by and large, on the macro, does.

Prove that. Note my signature.

The crowd is not the sum of its parts. Because you have x amount of racists...does not make society racist. If it did...then the fact is...you would be stating the overwhelming majority of society is racist. Do you actually believe that about America?

The crowd is not the sum of its parts.

I am a republican who did not vote for Trump (Or Hillary).

 

[blackjack50]

Re: Ok, I acknowledge I have "white privilege". Now what?

lol ... but you specifically said "urban black culture".

You literally equated "urban" with "black". So you may want to rethink just how unbiased your outlook really is.

Lie. Or you simply ignored context clues.

URBAN as opposed to RURAL

As usually...introducing racism where it is not. As I made clear...there is a difference in urban culture and rural culture. Does that make sense to you? Had I meant that "urban" and "black" were the same...why would I redundantly use them? That is illogical. I have never once used them interchangeably. They aren't.

That I abhor practices of other cultures doesn't mean I don't accept that it is their reality. Those values may not be acceptable to me, but it is acceptable to me that they find it acceptable. Who am I to judge? I can have the desire to improve a situation without judging negatively a person that is in that situation.

So it is acceptable to you that Muslims in the Middle East hang gay people?

The crowd is not the sum of its parts.

I am a republican who did not vote for Trump (Or Hillary).

 

[cabse5]

Re: Ok, I acknowledge I have "white privilege". Now what?

So here you sit not telling me what privileges I've seen because i am white...pushing an idea that I'm privileged...even though I work like everyone else. Stating very clearly that blacks can't succeed regardless of effort or intelligence or education.

That's racist.

If you refuse to do the things that allows any American to get a head, I see that as an unwillingness to assimilate and not a result of a racist, American culture.

What would you call an African-American culture that, for example, refuses to treat 'Uncle Toms' fairly? Would you call the African-American community racist, too?

Doesn't any society have the ability to make rules?

 

[jaeger19]

It absolutely does. When you start accepting that some people are inherently less able...you start believing you are more able.

.

Except that we are not accepting that some people are inherently less able. A black person.. JUST AS ABLE.. with just the same experience and work ethic.. etc.. so not "inherently" less able...

Has a disadvantage versus someone that's white.

That's not an inherent weakness.. that's one imposed by a society that discriminates based on color.

)

how often are equal candidates applying for the same job?

Most of the time.

B) against the law.

Almost impossible to prove.. because it would require proof of intent to disenfranchise a black person. A subconscious bias or stereotype is much harder to prove..

C) prove that it was specifically race.

I posted the study which controlled for all other factors.. education, work experience etc.

But only if you are willing to acknowledge that most of the people who suffer disproportionally to law enforcement are poor and generally react poorly to law enforcement. Which is reflected in the types of whites most likely to be arrested, stopped, or sentenced.

Wrong. Actually the studies control for much of that. Listen.. I get that you want to deny the fact that racial discrimination happens in this country but there is a plethora of good scientific evidence that it exists.

Again. Illegal. And you must prove that is actually happening in a specific case. This isn't the 1960s.

Illegal? Questionable.

But the fact that its illegal doesn;t mean that it doesn;t happen. and its questionable if its actually illegal.



JPMorgan Chase agreed to a $55 million settlement with the government over allegations that it discriminated against "thousands" of African American and Latino mortgage borrowers, it was disclosed Wednesday.
The bank's independent brokers charged minority borrowers higher mortgage interest rates and fees during from 2006 to 2009, compared to "similarly situated white borrowers," according to a government lawsuit filed in a New York federal court.

https://www.usatoday.com/money/

note 2006 to 2009.

Not 1960.

 

[Critter7r]

Re: Ok, I acknowledge I have "white privilege". Now what?

Lie. Or you simply ignored context clues.

URBAN as opposed to RURAL

You posted ...

...
Urban "black culture" (which is the stereotype) has been fostering negative aspects. It isn't much different in other poor communities such as rural poor. The difference is that there are positives that tend to outweigh those negatives (like a lack of value in education). That would be family and religion (which serves as a moral foundation that gives a stronger community and so on).
...

You acknowledge the negative stereotype, point out that (you believe) poor whites have higher cultural values than poor blacks, and then deny that racism even exists. You are perpetuating majority privilege with your assumption that poor whites are more culturally advanced than poor blacks.

As usually...introducing racism where it is not. As I made clear...there is a difference in urban culture and rural culture. Does that make sense to you? Had I meant that "urban" and "black" were the same...why would I redundantly use them? That is illogical. I have never once used them interchangeably. They aren't.

I don't know, but there it is.

So it is acceptable to you that Muslims in the Middle East hang gay people?

I think it's a horrible way to run a society. But I'm not going to go over there and try to change their culture. It's their culture. Not mine. And they can have it. I'm not pretending to be the world's moral police.

 

[YorkshirePete]

Ok, I acknowledge I have "white privilege". Now what?

What am I supposed to do with that little piece of knowledge?

Am I supposed to be ashamed? Am I supposed to just shrug and move on with my life like I always have, only slightly more 'enlightened'? Something else?

Just be grateful.
As they say "would you rather be black or white in these United States"
A black prof friend of mine gets pulled over every week because "he has a nice car"

 

[AGENT J]

Re: Ok, I acknowledge I have "white privilege". Now what?

1.)So here you sit not telling me what privileges I've seen because i am white...
2.) pushing an idea that I'm privileged...
3.) even though I work like everyone else.
4.) Stating very clearly that blacks can't succeed regardless of effort or intelligence or education.

That's racist.

1.) never did that once, another failed and retarded lie lmao
2.) nope never did that either its not specific to YOU, ooops your second retarded lie fails
3.) meaningless retarded strawman
4.) aaaaand retarded lie number 3. PLEASE PLEASE quote me saying that, thanks!

your post and the retarded lies in them gets destroyed again! lmao
opcorn2:

 

[blackjack50]

Ok, I acknowledge I have "white privilege". Now what?

You posted ...



You acknowledge the negative stereotype,

Yes.

point out that (you believe) poor whites

RURAL...blacks and whites. Not just white people here.

have higher cultural values than poor blacks,

Only URBAN blacks. And I will add for an addition...poor urban blacks AS WELL AS...poor urban whites. Rural whites and blacks are essentially the same to me. Only minor cultural differences that are usually a result of regional or religious differences. But generally both have similar values that prove superior to inner city/urban values. Unfortunately these do not always translate into monetary gains.

and then deny that racism even exists.

I did not say that. I have been clear from the start: racism exists. The impact is different. You want me to believe that most of society is racist. Or that racists have a huge amount of influence. It is just race Mcarthyism. Instead of allowing people to speak plainly...we must decry racism.

You are perpetuating majority privilege with your assumption that poor whites are more culturally advanced than poor blacks.

Which has already been broken down above...this is a strawman. If you aren't interested in responding to what I say...why respond? Just call me a racist and move on. It doesn't matter that I was very careful to stipulate that my primary belief is about rural folk. Not race. And by extension...I find shared beliefs and common ground with rural blacks. You want to make this a race thing it seems...because acknowledging that there are different views in the "black community" would harm your position.

Are you willing to admit that there is no solitary "black" culture? Instead there are multiples.

I don't know, but there it is.

No. There it isn't. I did not use them interchangeably. You did. You saw 2 different words and ASSUMED they meant the same thing. I've made it clear multiple times they do not. You keep responding like they do. It seems to me that YOU equate them. I don't.

I think it's a horrible way to run a society. But I'm not going to go over there and try to change their culture. It's their culture. Not mine. And they can have it. I'm not pretending to be the world's moral police.

Cop out. If they come here and decide to hang gays? Are you still going to "accept" their culture? I know the social justice warrior is strong in you. But you need to accept that certain cultural values are NOT good for a free society or a free people. Some values are better than others. It isn't racist. It is a measurable fact. If you(culture) value education? You will have a better educated society.

The reality here is that you desperately want there to be this "black" community so that you can make me feel guilty for being white. You want to make excuses for people for their skin color. You want to erase bad decisions and blame whitey. You aren't willing to take the logical step and question aspects of the "society" you claim is victimized. The fact is...we are all Americans. And as Americans...we need to value education and hard work. You can give participation trophies if you like...but the reality here is that LIFE HAS NOT, WILL NOT, and NEVER WILL.

The crowd is not the sum of its parts.

I am a republican who did not vote for Trump (Or Hillary).

 

[blackjack50]

Re: Ok, I acknowledge I have "white privilege". Now what?

1.) never did that once, another failed and retardedlie lmao
2.) nope never did that either its not specific to YOU, ooops your second retarded lie fails
3.) meaningless retardedstrawman
4.) aaaaand retarded lie number 3. PLEASE PLEASE quote me saying that, thanks!

your post and the retarded lies in them gets destroyed again! lmao
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Word of the day? What do you have against people with intellectual disabilities?

The crowd is not the sum of its parts.

I am a republican who did not vote for Trump (Or Hillary).

 

[Critter7r]

Prove that. Note my signature.

Please, please, please, click the links in Post 542. It's ALREADY BEEN PROVEN.

The crowd is not the sum of its parts. Because you have x amount of racists...does not make society racist. If it did...then the fact is...you would be stating the overwhelming majority of society is racist. Do you actually believe that about America?

To varying degrees, absolutely, the majority of white America is racist.