Officially A Democrat

[Checkerboard Strangler]

You always have been a liberal Democrat whereas I was a JFK Democrat.

What year did you leave?

 

[Conservative]

What year did you leave?

The last Democrat I voted for was Jimmy Carter and left the party during his term

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Yeah, before I left the GOP in 2015 a lot of people called me RINO. After I passionately criticised Santorum in 2012, a local rightwing radio host told me the GOP didn't need me, that there was already a party for people like me and it was Democrats.

Funny -- sad but funny -- this rightwing radio host tried to be intellectually honest about Trump. He did not join the group who watched Trump do things Obama had been criticised for but who suddenly pretended that it was okay because Trump was the one doing it. He was not loud about it, but he said he wouldn't condone some objectionable things just because it was Trump doing it. So because he dared to try to be intellectually and ideologically consistent, he was deemed to have betrayed the movement and was ousted from the radio network which he had helped grow in Northeastern Wisconsin.

Why not just stop keeping us (me?) in suspense and tell us who the radio guy was?
I actually still read "Talkers", a magazine for the talk radio industry because for a little while in the early 80's I produced a couple of regional talk radio shows and then again about six or seven years ago I produced another one which was national.
Yes, I am mostly a film/video guy but this time it was actually really good money so I took it on. I did most/all the technical/creative stuff for the shows.

Anyway, reveal his name please, I may know who they are, and it sounds "juicy!"

 

[maxparrish]

The GOP chose one of the most despicable men on the planet to be their banner holder more than two years ago, so why wouldn't it be "not less than two years (perhaps many more)" since someone opposed to Trump defended Republicans?

It has been a long time since the GOP has taken a stand worth supporting in a manner worth defending.

It's been not less than two years (and perhaps many more) since he has defended any Republican proposed policy supported by anyone in the party, regardless of whether or not they Trump initiated or supported policies.

But then, you unintentionally told us the one major and REAL reason for his (and your) animosity to any policy - he (and you) don't like someone's manner of taking a stand, i.e.; to you form is more important than substance. So then being "mannerly" is more important than the budget, defense, taxes, the Supreme Court, the debt and a dozen other major issues that vex our Republic?

You are free to be unserious, and whine about manners, but the rest of us who left the GOP and remain independent conservatives are also free to mock anyone who thinks that because a person presents a valid argument for the improvement of our safety or well being it makes somehow 'wrong' because they didn't say it right.

As I, and other thinking folks have said, I don't support anyone because of who they are, I support them only for the proper policies they support and will back up that up regardless of how annoying or stupidly or unmannerly they communicate.

If you can't see more than your doily collared and starched shirt sensibility, perhaps you ought to ask yourself why you think your "political" opinion matters?

 

[Amelia]

It's been not less than two years (and perhaps many more) since he has defended any Republican proposed policy supported by anyone in the party, regardless of whether or not they Trump initiated or supported policies.

But then, you unintentionally told us the one major and REAL reason for his (and your) animosity to any policy - he (and you) don't like someone's manner of taking a stand, i.e.; to you form is more important than substance. So then being "mannerly" is more important than the budget, defense, taxes, the Supreme Court, the debt and a dozen other major issues that vex our Republic?

You are free to be unserious, and whine about manners, but the rest of us who left the GOP and remain independent conservatives are also free to mock anyone who thinks that because a person presents a valid argument for the improvement of our safety or well being it makes somehow 'wrong' because they didn't say it right.

As I, and other thinking folks have said, I don't support anyone because of who they are, I support them only for the proper policies they support and will back up that up regardless of how annoying or stupidly or unmannerly they communicate.

If you can't see more than your doily collared and starched shirt sensibility, perhaps you ought to ask yourself why you think your "political" opinion matters?

It's not a matter of being "unmannerly".

Much of the time, it's a matter of taking a soundly grounded approach versus a dishonest, xenophobic approach. Sometimes the problem is doing things in a nondemocratic manner, such as how the GOP tried to force their Obamacare repeal through, which is why it earned a thumbs down from McCain. Sometimes it's when it's done via executive overreach and it's the duty of the Congress to stand up for their constitutional role of oversight and checks and balances.

It's not just manners. There are damaging ways to do things, ways which set precedents we don't want future presidents and legislatures to follow, ways which will erode our foundational principles even further. And there are proper ways to do things. It's not just about manners. The ends do not justify the means.

 

[Amelia]

Why not just stop keeping us (me?) in suspense and tell us who the radio guy was?
I actually still read "Talkers", a magazine for the talk radio industry because for a little while in the early 80's I produced a couple of regional talk radio shows and then again about six or seven years ago I produced another one which was national.
Yes, I am mostly a film/video guy but this time it was actually really good money so I took it on. I did most/all the technical/creative stuff for the shows.

Anyway, reveal his name please, I may know who they are, and it sounds "juicy!"

Jerry Bader

https://www.greenbaypressgazette.co...rump-coverage-loss-wtaq-radio-show/320904002/

https://www.wpr.org/people/jerry-bader

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Jerry Bader

https://www.greenbaypressgazette.co...rump-coverage-loss-wtaq-radio-show/320904002/

https://www.wpr.org/people/jerry-bader

Yes, I HAVE heard of him, and WTAQ is dependent upon a lot of upstream money that is generated by the likes of Rush, Hannity et all and I wager what probably happened to Bader is, folks like Rush and Hannity heard something they didn't like and threatened to spotlight him or otherwise encourage use of a little tool that those two pompous asses screech about all the time:

BOYCOTTS!!!!

Yup, Rush and Hannity love to crank up the outrage siren whenever liberals talk advertiser boycotts, but they don't hesitate to use the tool themselves to keep "smaller" conservative voices IN LINE. And their staff probably made a quiet phone call to WTAQ, one which probably made the management get a brown racing stripe in their shorts.

That's how it works in AM talk, always has ever since AM talk began to morph into RIGHT WING talk back in the late 1980's.
In fact, it is the reason WHY there is almost no such thing as liberal talk radio on AM anymore.

The almost total absence of liberal AM talk is not because there aren't liberal audiences, it's because the right figured out how to manipulate management. Thousands of liberal and moderate talents got their pink slips because the top tier talent on the right started calling around to smaller stations and letting them know that they would get advertisers to pull their spots.
The AM talk right used boycotts in an altogether different way than the liberal public, but with the same results.

They inflated minor issues into massive scandals, which is something conservatives happen to be very good at.

 

[cabse5]

I just officially registered to be a Democrat. Never thought this would happen, but I can no longer stomach the GOPs extreme positions on well just about everything.

RINO...er, used to be a RINO.

 

[akyron]

We're talking about the Civil Rights movement of the NINETEEN SIXTIES. Nice try. :lamo


Nice cherry pick but it is the whole of the entire history that is relevant

The Democrats were the segregationists and the Klanners in the EIGHTEEN SIXTIES.
The Republicans were the liberals back then.
Try to calm yourself, it has happened many times.

Show us the proof.

And then they went to the Republican Party.
That WAS Nixon's "sunbelt" strategy, except he called it the Southern Strategy. The "strategy" was to DISLODGE Southern Democrats and lure them to the Republican Party.

You young Lost Cause Southerners are all the same, you spew out nonsense about stuff which happened decades before you were even born, told to y'all by yo daddies who are bitter.

You're speaking to somebody who was very much alive and very much aware at the time all of this actually happened.
It's almost like you're a Flat Earther or a Moon Landing denier.

Are you? Do you think that the Moon Landing was done in Hollywood?
Do you think that the Earth is flat?

How a Republican Desegregated the South's Schools

'There's no doubt about it -- the Nixon administration accomplished more in 1970 to desegregate Southern school systems than had been done in the 16 previous years, or probably since,'' he wrote. ''There's no doubt either that it was Richard Nixon personally who conceived, orchestrated and led the administration's desegregation effort. -Tom Wicker - Progressive Reporter for the NYT.

The myth of Nixon’s ‘Southern Strategy’

"The South, as a whole, became Republican during the 1980s and 1990s. This had nothing to do with Nixon; it was because of Ronald Reagan and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich’s “Contract with America.” The conservative appeal to patriotism, anti-communism, free markets, pro-life and Christianity had far more to do with the South’s movement into the GOP camp than anything related to race.

Yet the myth of Nixon’s Southern Strategy endures — not because it’s true, but because it conveniently serves to exculpate the crimes of the Democratic Party. Somehow the party that promoted slavery, segregation, Jim Crow and racial terrorism gets to wipe its slate clean by pretending that, with Nixon’s connivance, the Republicans stole all their racists. It’s time we recognize this excuse for what it is: one more Democratic big lie."

Enjoy your revisionist flat earth.



Lincoln said it best about the core values of the Republican and Democrat parties in his own debates.

Democrat-Then and now......"You work, I eat."

Republican = Then and now-"The hand that makes the corn should decide where it goes......."

 

[joko104]

I tend to not vote on hot button issues like Guns or Abortion, and I largely stay out of the immigration debate except I believe that Trump is NOT handling the border wall dispute well. He's about to cave like a coward anyways, but there are other elements with how this government has dealt with migrants that bothers me to my core. There's also the metoo movement and how certain conservatives always seem to stick up for the men. When I've been watching true crime shows and Law and Order SVU for over twenty years. I see my female friends get harassed constantly everyday, and it's even worse online. Plus there's the anti-media sentiment in the GOP while they drum up bogus stories about Hillary almost daily. So those three things have made me realize that the GOP is no longer the party for me because they do not seem bothered by these things. Plus I believe more than a few have been infiltrated by Russians.

Naw, it was your team that literally "drummed up a bogus story." :lamo

 

[Moderate Right]

I just officially registered to be a Democrat. Never thought this would happen, but I can no longer stomach the GOPs extreme positions on well just about everything.

LOL. What a loss to the right. You've been a Democrat for all of the time you have been on this board. This is hardly headline news.

 

[joko104]

The OPer should buy a drum, go to next month's public meeting of the local Republican Women's Club and beat his drum for peace chatting something in the language of his great, great, great, great, great grandfather so they have no clue what he's chanting. He could even do a peace dance in the middle of them while doing it. Have a camera man with him and call a press conference of how the women surrounded him, mocked him with laughter and that he feared for his life, and then start a Go Fund Me page.

In this way he would prove that he's no longer a Republican following the example of his new hero.

 

[joko104]

Hmmm, I starting to think I might be a Trump supporter. If I do, I'll start a thread on to let you all know.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

How a Republican Desegregated the South's Schools

'There's no doubt about it -- the Nixon administration accomplished more in 1970 to desegregate Southern school systems than had been done in the 16 previous years, or probably since,'' he wrote. ''There's no doubt either that it was Richard Nixon personally who conceived, orchestrated and led the administration's desegregation effort. -Tom Wicker - Progressive Reporter for the NYT.

1970 is five years after implementation of the CRA 64
From the pages of your own article:

The vice president said he wanted no part of this effort.

That's why Schultz took the reins in the first place.

From the article AGAIN:

The first group to come to Washington was from Mississippi. We met in the Roosevelt Room of the White House, across the hall from the Oval Office. The discussion was civil, but deep divisions were evident. I let them argue for a while. Then, by prearrangement, I had John Mitchell, the attorney general, drop by. He was known in the South as a tough guy, and on the whole was regarded by whites as sympathetic to their cause. I asked Mitchell what he planned to do about the schools. ''I am attorney general, and I will enforce the law,'' he growled in his gruff, pipe-smoking way. He offered no judgments about whether this was good, bad or indifferent. ''I will enforce the law,'' he repeated. With that, he left.

WHAT LAW?
Title IV, Civil Rights Act of 1964, that's what law.
"Encouraged the desegregation of public schools and authorized the U.S. Attorney General to file suits to enforce said act."

Congratulations on the Attorney General finally enforcing the law, a law enacted in 1964 by Lyndon Johnson, originally conceived of by John F. Kennedy and opposed by Barry Goldwater.

The myth of Nixon’s ‘Southern Strategy’

Dinesh D'Souza? A convicted felon pardoned by Trump and censured by CPAC? The guy who trolled school shooting survivors?
The man who pronounced the mail bombing attempts on Democratic candidates a false flag?
You punched below your weight and should have brought in some propaganda from AmRen and Alex Jones.

 

[akyron]

Naw, it was your team that literally "drummed up a bogus story." :lamo

Clintonoids slammed the fbi with many lies all originating from the same source.

How the Clinton machine flooded the FBI with Trump-Russia dirt … until agents bit

"When at first you don’t succeed, try, try again. That’s what Hillary Clinton’s machine did in 2016, eventually getting the FBI to bite on an uncorroborated narrative that Donald Trump and Russia were trying to hijack the presidential election.

Between July and October 2016, Clinton-connected lawyers, emissaries and apologists made more than a half-dozen overtures to U.S. officials, each tapping a political connection to get suspect evidence into FBI counterintelligence agents’ hands, according to internal documents and testimonies I reviewed and interviews I conducted.


In each situation, the overture was uninvited. And as the election drew closer, the point of contact moved higher up the FBI chain.

It was, as one of my own FBI sources called it, a “classic case of information saturation” designed to inject political opposition research into a counterintelligence machinery that should have suspected a political dirty trick was underway."

"The political pressure from Team Clinton had come from many directions: State, Congress, Justice, a top Democratic lawyer.

Yet, no one in the FBI seemed to tap the brakes, noticing the obvious: Its counterintelligence apparatus was being weaponized with political opposition research from one campaign against its rival.

Leaking. Politically motivated evidence. Ex parte contacts outside the normal FBI evidence-gathering chain.

None of it seemed to raise a red flag.

That is a troubling legacy."

 

[akyron]

1970

Ever hear of affirmative action?

Executive Order 11478--Equal employment opportunity in the Federal Government

Guess who?.Nixon..This must gone over really well in the mythical "southern strategy" lie you purport.....

Democrats voted for Wallace as expected....

"Nixon barely campaigned in the Deep South. His strategy, as outlined by Kevin Phillips in his classic work, “The Emerging Republican Majority,” was to target the Sunbelt, the vast swath of territory stretching from Florida to Nixon’s native California. This included what Phillips terms the Outer or Peripheral South.

"Upon his taking office in 1969, Nixon also put into effect America’s first affirmative action program. Dubbed the Philadelphia Plan, it imposed racial goals and timetables on the building trade unions, first in Philadelphia and then elsewhere. Now, would a man seeking to build an electoral base of Deep South white supremacists actually promote the first program to legally discriminate in favor of blacks? This is absurd.
Nixon barely campaigned in the Deep South. His strategy, as outlined by Kevin Phillips in his classic work, “The Emerging Republican Majority,” was to target the Sunbelt, the vast swath of territory stretching from Florida to Nixon’s native California. This included what Phillips terms the Outer or Peripheral South.
Nixon recognized the South was changing. It was becoming more industrialized, with many northerners moving to the Sunbelt. Nixon’s focus, Phillips writes, was on the non-racist, upwardly-mobile, largely urban voters of the Outer or Peripheral South. Nixon won these voters, and he lost the Deep South, which went to Democratic segregationist George Wallace.
And how many racist Dixiecrats did Nixon win for the GOP? Turns out, virtually none. Among the racist Dixiecrats, Strom Thurmond of South Carolina was the sole senator to defect to the Republicans — and he did this long before Nixon’s time. Only one Dixiecrat congressman, Albert Watson of South Carolina, switched to the GOP. The rest, more than 200 Dixiecrat senators, congressmen, governors and high elected officials, all stayed in the Democratic Party.
The progressive notion of a Dixiecrat switch is a myth. Yet it is myth that continues to be promoted, using dubious case examples. Though the late Sens. Jesse Helms of North Carolina and John Tower of Texas and former Mississippi Sen. Trent Lott all switched from the Democratic Party to the GOP, none of these men was a Dixiecrat.
The South, as a whole, became Republican during the 1980s and 1990s. This had nothing to do with Nixon; it was because of Ronald Reagan and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich’s “Contract with America.” The conservative appeal to patriotism, anti-communism, free markets, pro-life and Christianity had far more to do with the South’s movement into the GOP camp than anything related to race.
Yet the myth of Nixon’s Southern Strategy endures — not because it’s true, but because it conveniently serves to exculpate the crimes of the Democratic Party."

 

[presluc]

I have a question if you are not a Republican or a Democrat but an Independent voter does that make you a traitor to your country, does that make you a communist?eace

 

[danarhea]

I just officially registered to be a Democrat. Never thought this would happen, but I can no longer stomach the GOPs extreme positions on well just about everything.

I've been tempted to do that, but just couldn't. My hope is that the GOP burns to the ground, then sane people rebuild it in the image it once was. If that happens, then I will come home.

 

[danarhea]

1970 is five years after implementation of the CRA 64
From the pages of your own article:

That's why Schultz took the reins in the first place.

From the article AGAIN:


WHAT LAW?
Title IV, Civil Rights Act of 1964, that's what law.
"Encouraged the desegregation of public schools and authorized the U.S. Attorney General to file suits to enforce said act."

Congratulations on the Attorney General finally enforcing the law, a law enacted in 1964 by Lyndon Johnson, originally conceived of by John F. Kennedy and opposed by Barry Goldwater.



Dinesh D'Souza? A convicted felon pardoned by Trump and censured by CPAC? The guy who trolled school shooting survivors?
The man who pronounced the mail bombing attempts on Democratic candidates a false flag?
You punched below your weight and should have brought in some propaganda from AmRen and Alex Jones.

Alex Jones? Nah. His God is Jim Jones. LOL.

 

[btthegreat]

I'm staying registered as a Republican so I can vote in our primary next year and get someone in there who can replace Trump as the nominee. Once the party is purged of Trump supporters, we can get it back to the great party it once was.

I don't think it will ever be the same. I think the GOP will stay an isolationist nationalist party that flirts with bigotry and xenophobia. There will be another party that will attract the economic ideas of the former GOP and marry those to social libertarianism. Those folks cannot find another home currently and will need one.

 

[marke]

I just officially registered to be a Democrat. Never thought this would happen, but I can no longer stomach the GOPs extreme positions on well just about everything.

We mourn the loss of another one to the dark side.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

I've been tempted to do that, but just couldn't. My hope is that the GOP burns to the ground, then sane people rebuild it in the image it once was. If that happens, then I will come home.

Come on over to our side, Dana. We have cookies.

 

[Oborosen]

I just officially registered to be a Democrat. Never thought this would happen, but I can no longer stomach the GOPs extreme positions on well just about everything.

Yay, now lets all stand and recognize this attempt at virtue signaling for what it is... another sheep, joining the democratic herd.

I was there once before and I don't see any chance of myself going back.
Seeing as the current administration doesn't really have any of these extreme positions that I've been hearing about from the left all this time. Though it's not unusual that they just want to keep making things up as it is...

So color me surprised.

 

[danarhea]

Yay, now lets all stand and recognize this attempt at virtue signaling for what it is... another sheep, joining the democratic herd.

I was there once before and I don't see any chance of myself going back.
Seeing as the current administration doesn't really have any of these extreme positions that I've been hearing about from the left all this time. Though it's not unusual that they just want to keep making things up as it is...

So color me surprised.

I don't see it as sheep joining the Dem herd. I personally know of 4 people who have left the Republican party and joined the Democrats. I also know a couple more Republicans who are never Trumpers. I am also a never Trumper, but cannot bring myself to join the Democrats, although I did vote for Beto last year, the only Democrat I ever voted for in my life.

To be blunt, this is not the fault of everybody else. Democrats did not put guns to their heads and made them join the Democrats. This is the fault of the Republican party, which has gone off the rails on a crazy train (Thank you, Ozzy). Republicans are driving good people from the party, and soon there will be nobody left but the fruitcakes. And fruitcakes don't win elections, although they can be good comic relief sometimes.

 

[<alt>doxygen]

Ever hear of affirmative action?

Executive Order 11478--Equal employment opportunity in the Federal Government

Guess who?.Nixon..This must gone over really well in the mythical "southern strategy" lie you purport.....

Democrats voted for Wallace as expected....

"Nixon barely campaigned in the Deep South. His strategy, as outlined by Kevin Phillips in his classic work, “The Emerging Republican Majority,” was to target the Sunbelt, the vast swath of territory stretching from Florida to Nixon’s native California. This included what Phillips terms the Outer or Peripheral South.

"Upon his taking office in 1969, Nixon also put into effect America’s first affirmative action program. Dubbed the Philadelphia Plan, it imposed racial goals and timetables on the building trade unions, first in Philadelphia and then elsewhere. Now, would a man seeking to build an electoral base of Deep South white supremacists actually promote the first program to legally discriminate in favor of blacks? This is absurd.
Nixon barely campaigned in the Deep South. His strategy, as outlined by Kevin Phillips in his classic work, “The Emerging Republican Majority,” was to target the Sunbelt, the vast swath of territory stretching from Florida to Nixon’s native California. This included what Phillips terms the Outer or Peripheral South.
Nixon recognized the South was changing. It was becoming more industrialized, with many northerners moving to the Sunbelt. Nixon’s focus, Phillips writes, was on the non-racist, upwardly-mobile, largely urban voters of the Outer or Peripheral South. Nixon won these voters, and he lost the Deep South, which went to Democratic segregationist George Wallace.
And how many racist Dixiecrats did Nixon win for the GOP? Turns out, virtually none. Among the racist Dixiecrats, Strom Thurmond of South Carolina was the sole senator to defect to the Republicans — and he did this long before Nixon’s time. Only one Dixiecrat congressman, Albert Watson of South Carolina, switched to the GOP. The rest, more than 200 Dixiecrat senators, congressmen, governors and high elected officials, all stayed in the Democratic Party.
The progressive notion of a Dixiecrat switch is a myth. Yet it is myth that continues to be promoted, using dubious case examples. Though the late Sens. Jesse Helms of North Carolina and John Tower of Texas and former Mississippi Sen. Trent Lott all switched from the Democratic Party to the GOP, none of these men was a Dixiecrat.
The South, as a whole, became Republican during the 1980s and 1990s. This had nothing to do with Nixon; it was because of Ronald Reagan and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich’s “Contract with America.” The conservative appeal to patriotism, anti-communism, free markets, pro-life and Christianity had far more to do with the South’s movement into the GOP camp than anything related to race.
Yet the myth of Nixon’s Southern Strategy endures — not because it’s true, but because it conveniently serves to exculpate the crimes of the Democratic Party."

Ummm, that's interesting.

Why don't you rewrite this page and remove the deep south:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy

Kevin Phillips has written on this quite a bit beyond that book.

DINESH D'SOUZA is a professional liar. I'm not surprised you didn't mention where you got that text.