Re: Obama Protesters Sing 'Bye Bye Black Sheep,' in AZ
Social democrats are socialist. They just believe in achieving socialism through democracy as opposed to revolution.
Unless the Netherlands political system defines it differently.
No, you are totally wrong:
Socialism vs Social Democracy — What’s The Difference?
Socialism is about collective ownership of the means of production;
Social democracy about organic social solidarity with private ownership of production.
Socialism is restrictive;
Social democracy somewhat libertarian, they believe in freedom
Socialism is metaphysical (excessively abstract reasoning);
Social democracy the other empirical (demonstrable, verifiable reasoning).
Socialism is dogmatic;
Social democracy is reflective and scientific.
Socialism is very much emotional and all about feeling politically superior to others
Social democracy is much more cooperative and can work with others
Socialism is destructive, it destroys freedoms and societies
Social democracy wants to be and is mostly constructive.
Both are in pursuit of the greatest possible welfare for all.
– Socialism aims to establish equal happiness for all;
– Social democracy the other to enable each to be happy in one’s own way.
Socialism regards the State as a society that all most bow down to, the State reigns supreme and the leaders of the state have loads of perks.
Social democracy considers the State as an association like any other, generally managed no better and no more efficient than others.
Socialism proclaims the sovereignty of the State and wants to reform other societies in their own image and to take freedom away from the population.
Social democrats do not see the state as the sovereignty but as a necessary evil, there to protect freedom
Socialism wishes all monopolies to be held by the State;
Social democracy wishes the abolition of all/almost all monopolies (they believe in oversight rather than state monopolies).
Socialism wishes the governed class to become the governing class;
Social democracy wishes the disappearance of classes.
Socialism want total leveling of the salary structure of the society/aka full redistribution of wealth
Social democrats want some modest level of leveling/redistribution of wealth
Socialism wishes that there should be none but proletariats;
Social democrats wishes that there should be no more proletariats.
Socialism wishes to take everything away from everybody, no personal property of factories/farms etc.
Social democracy wishes to leave each in possession of its own.
Socialism says: Do as the government wishes;
Social democracy says: Do as you wish yourself, but respect the rights of others.
Socialism makes the citizen the subject of the State;
Social democracy makes the State the employee of the citizen, the state works for us and not the other way around
Socialism proclaims that labor pains will be necessary to the birth of a new world (read violence, poverty, inequality)
Social democracy declares that real progress will not cause suffering to any one, progress will come through working together
Socialism has confidence in social warfare, the battle of the proletariat against all others
Social democracy believes only in works of peace and by working with others not against others
Socialism aspires to command, to regulate, to legislate
Social democracy wishes to attain the minimum of command, of regulation, of legislation possible for a good and decent society.
One desires equality; the other seeks equity.
– Socialism by lowering heads that are too high;
– Social democracy by raising heads that are too low.
Socialism sees equality under a common yoke
Social democracy will secure equity in as much complete liberty as is possible in a society
Socialism is intolerant to all except their own
Social democracy the other tolerant to others
Socialism wishes to instruct everybody;
Social democracy wishes to enable everybody to instruct one’s self.
Socialism wishes to support everybody as an ultimate form of solidarity. They have taken solidarity to a ridiculous extreme.
Social democracy to enable everybody to support one’s self through modest solidarity.
At least that is how I have felt it and see it in Europe.