NSA Whistleblower Backs Trump Up on Wiretap Claims[W:364]

[j-mac]

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You posting that Clapper is a known liar is most ironic in a thread where you're supporting a guy who you know is a confirmed life-long liar .

It's not about me dude...Or is that all you can do?

 

[Simon W. Moon]

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Well, let's see how fast the liberal's and anti Trumpster's attack this guy....I am sure since he's speaking out in favor of the President, he is not to be believed in their eyes...

From your article
"Everyone's conversations are being monitored and stored, Binney said."


This isn't "Obama tapped Trumps phones"

This the Big Brother is watching us all.


The WH already backed down from the claim that Obama tapped Trump's phones.
They said that Trump was taking about a hypothetical situation, not real life.

 

[bluesmoke]

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Giving benefit of the doubt to a sitting President that accuses a former President of felony wiretapping, without any proof whatsoever? That’s equivalency in presenting the news? Aw, gee, give the guy a break. Poor boy.

It is pure crap about those whistle blowers to do with ThinThread. Before 9/11, ThinThread was replaced by the Trailblazer Project. The whistle blowers were complaining that Trailblazer dropped privacy protection that ThinThread had provided US Citizens. That was the whistle they were blowing. Anyway, both programs were considered failures.

The Trump surrogates are using the "if" argument. If Obama hired thugs outside of government to give a beat down to The Donald, that would be the most scandalous event in US political history. If it could be proved. It never happened. But if it was planned. No evidence. Everyone in the position of knowledge says they never heard of any such thing. But, in the entire realm of possibility, it could have been planned and still may be a plan of action...

 

[j-mac]

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From your article
"Everyone's conversations are being monitored and stored, Binney said."


This isn't "Obama tapped Trumps phones"

This the Big Brother is watching us all.


The WH already backed down from the claim that Obama tapped Trump's phones.
They said that Trump was taking about a hypothetical situation, not real life.

Really? Cuz, I sure don't see that here....

https://www.google.com/search?site=...i30k1j33i160k1j33i21k1j33i13i21k1.K6lKpH6iqA0

 

[Linc]

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It's not about me dude...Or is that all you can do?

j-mac, your thread is about posters defending a confirmed life-long liar with ZERO evidence and deflecting from trump's ongoing problems with REAL NEWS committee investigations .

 

[Linc]

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Really? Cuz, I sure don't see that here....

https://www.google.com/search?site=...i30k1j33i160k1j33i21k1j33i13i21k1.K6lKpH6iqA0

What will be trump's latest conspiratorially blatant irrational lie ?

 

[<alt>doxygen]

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And he might be full of BS and trying to spread it around.

:lol:

Until something is proven in court this is all just one person's word against another person's word.

Exactly. Both sides are throwing **** hoping something will stick.

"SAD"

 

[Linc]

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Listening to Lawrence O'Donnell on MSNBC has known to be hazardous to one's mental health.

Why would you as a poster, named slick, accuse me of losing my mental health?

Remember when you told me 'up here' that you double-dated with trump while you defended his chicken**** draft-dodging ted nugent behavior?

Now you're defending a sick congenital lying PoS with his latest CT with ZERO evidence .

 

[j-mac]

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Giving benefit of the doubt to a sitting President that accuses a former President of felony wiretapping, without any proof whatsoever? That’s equivalency in presenting the news? Aw, gee, give the guy a break. Poor boy.

It is pure crap about those whistle blowers to do with ThinThread. Before 9/11, ThinThread was replaced by the Trailblazer Project. The whistle blowers were complaining that Trailblazer dropped privacy protection that ThinThread had provided US Citizens. That was the whistle they were blowing. Anyway, both programs were considered failures.

The Trump surrogates are using the "if" argument. If Obama hired thugs outside of government to give a beat down to The Donald, that would be the most scandalous event in US political history. If it could be proved. It never happened. But if it was planned. No evidence. Everyone in the position of knowledge says they never heard of any such thing. But, in the entire realm of possibility, it could have been planned and still may be a plan of action...

Ok, and your credentials to make these claims are?

 

[j-mac]

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j-mac, your thread is about posters defending a confirmed life-long liar with ZERO evidence and deflecting from trump's ongoing problems with REAL NEWS committee investigations .

Man, you're losin' it....I am officially worried about you...

 

[j-mac]

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What will be trump's latest conspiratorially blatant irrational lie ?

What will the next slanderous BS lie that the liberal/AT's come up with?

 

[Linc]

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Ok, and your credentials to make these claims are?

What are your credentials for defending trump's latest conspiracy theory full of libelous accusations for which you and trump simply CAN'T provide any evidence ?

 

[JANFU]

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Trump can declassify information quicker than I can type this post. That declassification will prove his claim to be true. Yet for some odd reason, he won't do that. Why is that?

Then again, why should he deliver proof when his loyal supporters bob their heads, use the words of a guy who hasn't worked in DC in 16 years, and a Breitbart article to say "Trump is right! Obama is a felon!". I can't believe they haven't started the cheers of "Lock him up!" yet but I'm sure that's forthcoming. Probably a lot sooner than Trump's proof.

He does not have proof. Just another deflection from real problems he is having.

 

[j-mac]

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What are your credentials for defending trump's latest conspiracy theory full of libelous accusations for which you and trump simply CAN'T provide any evidence ?

Go Away.

 

[Fenton]

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lol yeah those things. We had a scanner at the house and you could listen to those calls on the open air.

This will take you back. Part of 90s soundtrack, right along with Pearl Jam and Sound Garden

 

[OpportunityCost]

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What are your credentials for defending trump's latest conspiracy theory full of libelous accusations for which you and trump simply CAN'T provide any evidence ?

About the same as the ones you bunch are using to say he colluded with the Russians. The same wiretap stories the press was already reporting on...

 

[Simon W. Moon]

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Really? Cuz, I sure don't see that here....

https://www.google.com/search?site=...i30k1j33i160k1j33i21k1j33i13i21k1.K6lKpH6iqA0

You can pick up on the dramatic change in tone from one day to the next.

We went from, "It happened!" to, "If something like this were to happen, it'd be a big deal."



SARAH HUCKABEE SANDERS, DEPUTY WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY

All we're saying is let's take a closer look. Let's look into this. If this happened, if this is accurate, this is the biggest overreach and the biggest scandal.

I think that this is, again, something that if this happened, Martha.

[Trump's] going off of information that he's seen that has led him to believe that this is a very real potential. And if it is, this is the greatest overreach and the greatest abuse of power that I think we have ever seen and a huge attack on democracy itself. And the American people have a right to know if this took place.

I think the bigger story isn't who reported it, but is it true? And I think the American people have a right to know if this happened, because if it did, again this is the largest abuse of power that I think we is have ever seen.​

 

[Wiggen]

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Well, let's see how fast the liberal's and anti Trumpster's attack this guy....I am sure since he's speaking out in favor of the President, he is not to be believed in their eyes...

No, I'd believe a guy who resigned in 2001 speaking authoritatively about what happened in 2016. Who wouldn't?

 

[JANFU]

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From your article
"Everyone's conversations are being monitored and stored, Binney said."


This isn't "Obama tapped Trumps phones"

This the Big Brother is watching us all.


The WH already backed down from the claim that Obama tapped Trump's phones.
They said that Trump was taking about a hypothetical situation, not real life.

That seems to be his reality- Hypothetical is now the new WH Buzzword.

 

[Linc]

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What will the next slanderous BS lie that the liberal/AT's come up with?

You're diverting from your OP now, j-mac.

Just as your OP diverted from reality to deflect from trump's KNOWN problems being investigated by Congress.

trump making up lies and telling the media to repeat his lies and telling congress to investigate his lies may work with FOX but not Americans who will vote in 2018 .

 

[Wiggen]

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About the same as the ones you bunch are using to say he colluded with the Russians. The same wiretap stories the press was already reporting on...

Patience, Grasshopper! The evidence regarding the Orange Fascist and his bed-buddy Putin will be forthcoming. I prefer the dribble dribble dribble approach as it tends to drive the right wing loons crazy.

 

[Linc]

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Exactly. Both sides are throwing **** hoping something will stick.

"SAD"

That's what trump/Bannon wants Americans to think, deflect and divert.

Meanwhile, trump is furious that ZERO GOP lawmakers have come to his defense over his latest conspiracy theory .

 

[Brewdog]

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This will take you back. Part of 90s soundtrack, right along with Pearl Jam and Sound Garden

Haha yeah. I had PCLink which was the predecessor to AOL. And I would run up my parents' phonebill because I had to call the closest big city to dial in and cost long distance charges. When I was 13 I had girlfriends all over America from the chats. There was no pic sending back then, just text, so I'm pretty sure they were all wretched, but it was still fun.

We've hijacked this thread, but it's just 1 of a thousand threads about how Trump is an ass, so I'm fine with it.

 

[radioman]

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I hope Trump supporters have Physio on their medical care, as all that twisting and turning, they may throw a finger or jaw out of place.

All this spinning is going to result in a serious loss of equilibrium.
Not to mention the spinal trauma caused by bending over backwards to defend Trump's bizarre statements.

 

[vesper]

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More NSA managers quit in protest in 2005ish and testified before Congress along with AT&T whistleblowers saying that the US gov't is listening to everything and recording it.

The NSA was caught hacking Congress' emails. We know they have a massive data collection center in Utah. We know that Ed Snowden released piles of documents proving the NSA was monitoring every American's calls and emails.

What more proof do you want?

Well after the latest dump from Wiki Leaks on the CIA spying tactics using our cell phones and televisions to spy on us and considering the bar is so low for FISA to issue a warrant for surveillance, coupled with what Obama did on his way out the door by loosening the ability for all 16 intelligence agencies to share information without protecting the names of U.S. citizens or the innocent.........hell yes I think the former member of the NSA is telling the truth.
If this doesn't make you paranoid nothing will.
https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/