NOAA Contradicts Weather Service, Backs Trump On Hurricane Threat In Alabama

[Grand Mal]

And the Goebbels Media eats crow once again.

Someone's dining on corvids, that's for sure. From the report...

"The surprise statement on Friday has left meteorologists across the country baffled and upset.

"Some administrator, or someone at the top of NOAA, threw the National Weather Service under the bus," Brian McNoldy, a hurricane researcher at the University of Miami, told NPR.

"The part that really smells fishy is that this is five days after that tweet by Trump," he added. "If the National Weather Service did issue a misleading or incorrect tweet, that would need to be amended or fixed in an hour or two."

"I am very disappointed to see this statement come out from NOAA," University of Oklahoma assistant meteorology professor Jason Furtado*told*The Associated Press. He said the controversy over the president's tweets and the NOAA statement undermines public confidence in meteorologists."

 

[W_Heisenberg]

Give me the evidence that he altered that map with a sharpie. Until you do that, the rest of your post is pure TDS.

I find it amusing that after all this time you guys are still giving Trump the benefit of the doubt.

It's not a symptom of mental illness to insist the leader of our country refrain from lying. It's a sign of rationality and common sense.

It's also a sign of good moral character. I consider it a sign of bad moral character to support Trump's lies.

The first piece of evidence is that Trump routinely uses a sharpie to write on things.

The second piece of evidence is this article:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...597606-cfe7-11e9-8c1c-7c8ee785b855_story.html

Now, until you can provide evidence to the contrary, your entire post is pure Trump Cultism.

 

[roguenuke]

He was right based on data days old.

He was NOT right when he said it.

This is his condition. Nothing more.

The man is ignorant. More so than most adults I know.

But his ego requires him to NEVER be wrong.

It really is as simple as that

Actually, he wasn't even right in that case. In order for him to have been correct in his tweet, you would have to take apart his whole tweet or completely ignore that he included the Carolinas in saying that they were going to likely be hit much harder than previously thought/predicted (which was the part of his tweet which was correct). Had he been truly looking at an earlier map/prediction, then the Carolinas could not have been legitimately included in that statement. The Carolinas were not likely to be hit harder without the hurricane changing course away from Alabama, which would then mean Alabama would be hit with far less of the hurricane.

 

[Atomic Kid]

Former NOAA Leadership Weighs In On The Agency’s Rebuke Of A National Weather Service Office

The Secretary of Commerce is Wilbur Ross. That would seem to explain a lot.

 

[Geoist]

The Secretary of Commerce is Wilbur Ross. That would seem to explain a lot.

And the HUD Secretary is Ben Carson. Oi.

 

[Atomic Kid]

And the HUD Secretary is Ben Carson. Oi.

Wonder if he finished his package of 'Oreo' cookies yet.

 

[AlbqOwl]

TO EVERYBODY:

My final post in this thread.

The NOAA has supported President Trump's concern that Dorian was so unpredictable that the computer models could not be completely trusted at any time. So if a President who chose to notice that the constantly changing trajectories for Dorian allowed for even more unpredictability, and chose to be prepared for all contingencies, is some kind of hideous demon for that, I guess you all can sue him.

Puerto Rico would be a direct hit. Oops. Not so much.
Florida would be a direct hit. Oops. Not so much.
Meanwhile they pretty well ignored the tremendous danger to the Bahamas until it was too late to save everybody there.

My God. You weren't getting enough mileage out of the ancient history stories or RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA or RACIST RACIST RACIST that you have to make such a monumental mountain out of this tiny molehill? That's really pathetic.

So carry on which you will do anyway. But it's really pathetic.

 

[MauiMan]

Goebbels, AKA Stephen Miller, works for Trump


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What irony!

 

[Atomic Kid]

TO EVERYBODY:

My final post in this thread.

YouTube

 

[Geoist]

My God. You weren't getting enough mileage out of the ancient history stories or RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA or RACIST RACIST RACIST that you have to make such a monumental mountain out of this tiny molehill? That's really pathetic.

The POTUS bitched about it for six days straight. But no, the left and the media were making a mountain out of a molehill. :lamo

 

[W_Heisenberg]

TO EVERYBODY:

My final post in this thread.

The NOAA has supported President Trump's concern that Dorian was so unpredictable that the computer models could not be completely trusted at any time.

NOAA didn't indicate that, so which statement are you referring to?

All NOAA did in its unsigned, recent statement in support of Trump was refer to forecasts which indicated that for the vast majority of the time there was a 5 to 20% chance that small sliver of Alabama might be impacted by tropical-storm-force winds. In one, maybe two forecasts there was a larger chunk of Alabama indicating a 5% chance of being impacted by tropical-storm-force winds.

So if a President who chose to notice that the constantly changing trajectories for Dorian allowed for even more unpredictability, and chose to be prepared for all contingencies, is some kind of hideous demon for that, I guess you all can sue him.

The problem is that Trump doesn't notice things. The problem is that Trump did not understand what the weather maps indicated. The problem is that Trump does not understand math, probabilities, or science in general. The problem is that his ego is so fragile he cannot defer to those that do have an understanding of the topics he boasts knowledge of. The problem is that Trump cannot admit his mistakes. The problem is that Trump is an habitual liar.

These are not anyone else's problems. These are his problems.

Puerto Rico would be a direct hit. Oops. Not so much.
Florida would be a direct hit. Oops. Not so much.
Meanwhile they pretty well ignored the tremendous danger to the Bahamas until it was too late to save everybody there.

So what the weather services did was provide the most accurate information available at any particular time to the general public. When the forecasts changed, the information the services provided also changed.

What Trump did was provide inaccurate and out-of-date information. Instead of admitting his mistake, he lied about it. That's a problem.

My God. You weren't getting enough mileage out of the ancient history stories or RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA or RACIST RACIST RACIST that you have to make such a monumental mountain out of this tiny molehill? That's really pathetic.

So carry on which you will do anyway. But it's really pathetic.

The only thing that is pathetic is that Trump and his supporters cannot admit he lied.

 

[JustHanging]

And the Goebbels Media eats crow once again.

LOL, yep, some members of FOX News will have to eat crow. Now President snowflake has made the NOAA lie for him. Well, this certainly isn't the first time that Trump has made an underling lie to benefit himself.

You know, the more posts I read, the more I realize what an accurate representative Trump is of his base. No wonder so many of them support him so passionately, they're supporting their own morals and beliefs.

 

[Moot]

And the Goebbels Media eats crow once again.

Smells fishy.

 

[What if...?]

Responding to the lies being spread by the New Democratic Party and it's propaganda ministries is a thankless, and in this era of radical Progressive nonsense, a 24/7 job.

Just calling everything a lie is just being lazy.

And the propaganda comes predictably from the right about 24hrs after trumps latest screwup.

I know its hard, thankless work. But you are steadfast.

 

[What if...?]

You seem to have a problem with reading comprehension. I said that Trump's actions in altering the weather chart is similar to what these so-called climate scientists do when they work their climate modeling projections. They both make stuff up.

Sand yet when you lay out the graphs of their predictions the actual outcome does fall within them. On the lower end, granted. But the angles are all about the same.

I've seen deniers post that combination graph as some kind of proof that it isn't happening.

 

[What if...?]

Lol, you know Goebbels worked for the state right?

And is credited for perfecting the "big lie" technique. Where you tell a lie so big you wouldn't dare tell it and then repeat it ad nauseum.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

The Director of Communications for NOAA was part of the Trump Campaign and Trump Inaugural Committee.

 

[Bullseye]

Yeah, we already know about this. Not to mention this was something that I even discussed on one of those other threads that couldn't let this crap go.

I don't care that anyone has to eat crow, just let this stupid **** end.

I totally agree!! We didn't talk this much over the Mueller Report!

 

[Bullseye]

The Director of Communications for NOAA was part of the Trump Campaign and Trump Inaugural Committee.

So what?

Isn't it about time to let go of this craziness? Is it really that important?

 

[What if...?]

The weather services aren't going to broadcast past what they are given. Here is a video from 8/30. It has the projected path going into mid Florida, matching Trump's graph for predictions. In reality, the storm hooked north sooner than predicted. Had it stayed on it's predicted path, starting at 1:11 in the video, it could have continued into Alabama. As it stands, there was some damage at the Alabama/Georgia border.



Hurricane Dorian Google Maps

I find it so funny how the haters of Trump just loose all their marbles and scruples when wanting to push hate.

I think you are forgetting the "staying home instead of going to Poland so he could monitor the storm hourly" part.

 

[Bullseye]

Anus P. McPuckerface is so invested in this that he ordered the NOAA to release a statement backing him up? FFS. Katie, bar the door.

There's place on DP to discuss conspiracies. Doesn't this belong there?

 

[What if...?]

Well. well well, looks like early on even CNN reported that Alabama could be effected when it looked like Florida was going to get a direct hit with a CAT 5 even though they denied it. Over at the Hill there is an article about Trump posting the video of CNN's meteorologist reporting just that. Someone altered the video so it would repeat Alabama 10 times and then you see the CNN logo driving down the road crash and burn. :lol:

Trump tweets video of CNN saying Alabama was in the way of Hurricane Dorian | TheHill

"Early on" being the relevant part of your post.

He made a statement based on old information. And that could happen to anybody.

The problem y'all are studiously ignoring is the whole "No, I was right the whole time!" bit he's been tuning since then.

A man admits his mistakes and takes his lumps.

But to be fair, trump has never been much of a man. Never a person you would want your kids to emulate.

 

[Bullseye]

I think you are forgetting the "staying home instead of going to Poland so he could monitor the storm hourly" part.

I think you're clinging to that while your arguments swirl around the bowl. :roll:

 

[What if...?]

Maybe this will end this stupidity:

DORIAN Graphics Archive: <br> 5-day Probability of Tropical-Storm-Force-Winds

The animation, from NOAA, has the colorband of 20% to 30% probability of hitting the SE part of Alabama.

5-10 MPH winds?

That was worth even mentioning?

 

[Moot]

TDS really does not have any limits I guess. So sad for those afflicted with it. The President was exemplary in his preparations for this storm and how he has handled it.

TDS seems to work both ways. Those who obsess over Trump and those who obsessively defend him.