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NOAA Contradicts Weather Service, Backs Trump On Hurricane Threat In Alabama

Climate models are not evidence. They are computer projections that are dependent on what you input into them. Trump running a marker along a chart is the exact same thing, except he does it by hand.



The NOAA has always been political and are subjected to agendas. This hasnt changed.

You called trump a computer.

Lol.

Or you think he can do math.

Which is even funnier.
 
Anus P. McPuckerface is so invested in this that he ordered the NOAA to release a statement backing him up? FFS. Katie, bar the door.

You guys and your conspiracy theories.

It was said that it "could" not that it "would." Recently, I did see probability maps that included parts of Alabama, from NOAA.

What percentage to you place on the word "could?"
 
It’s bad enough that the President has no credibility. Now we can’t trust the government when they tell us the weather in case the truth makes the president look stupid.

Best not believe what they say about the future of the climate. They can't even get the weather right.
 
:lamo

So Trump ranted and raved and demanded someone release a statement backing his moronic statements and they did. But no one would put their name on it.

:lamo


Of course Republicans don't understand the significance of that and think Trump was vindicated and thus Alabama was in grave danger from Dorian....

:lamo

Not only that, but the entire professional weather community says that Trump is wrong and of course, his supporters don't believe them. This is beyond insane.
 
You guys and your conspiracy theories.

It was said that it "could" not that it "would." Recently, I did see probability maps that included parts of Alabama, from NOAA.

What percentage to you place on the word "could?"

The amount that a hurricane can change course in reality.

And the track at the time in question.

You know, the science way.
 
That's a weird way of saying we'll point this stupid out until the next stupid comes in a couple of days.

It's your side that will 24hrs to come up with why it isn't a flaw it's a feature.

Responding to the lies being spread by the New Democratic Party and it's propaganda ministries is a thankless, and in this era of radical Progressive nonsense, a 24/7 job.
 
Best not believe what they say about the future of the climate. They can't even get the weather right.

To be fair, before we condemn the NOAA outright, we should hold off to see if the statement came from career officials (which would certainly be disturbing in its own right) or a Trump appointee. I'm betting a dollar on the latter.
 
:lamo

So Trump ranted and raved and demanded someone release a statement backing his moronic statements and they did. But no one would put their name on it.

:lamo


Of course Republicans don't understand the significance of that and think Trump was vindicated and thus Alabama was in grave danger from Dorian....

:lamo

The left when someone posts an anonymous source that disagrees with Trump, "It was an anonymous source, but we have to believe it."
The left when someone posts an anonymous source that agree with Trump, "It was an anonymous source, so we can't trust it."
 
You called trump a computer.

Lol.

Or you think he can do math.

Which is even funnier.

You seem to have a problem with reading comprehension. I said that Trump's actions in altering the weather chart is similar to what these so-called climate scientists do when they work their climate modeling projections. They both make stuff up.
 
The left when someone posts an anonymous source that disagrees with Trump, "It was an anonymous source, but we have to believe it."
The left when someone posts an anonymous source that agree with Trump, "It was an anonymous source, so we can't trust it."

It's not even signed anonymous... :lamo

They wouldn't even go that far.
:lamo
 
You guys and your conspiracy theories.

It was said that it "could" not that it "would." Recently, I did see probability maps that included parts of Alabama, from NOAA.

What percentage to you place on the word "could?"

what color sharpie do you prefer?
 
The left when someone posts an anonymous source that disagrees with Trump, "It was an anonymous source, but we have to believe it."
The left when someone posts an anonymous source that agree with Trump, "It was an anonymous source, so we can't trust it."

The difference is that people who work for Trump (or just support him on their own) lie to protect him. So the NOAA rewrites history and contradicts the NWS, all to protect Trump's image.

That's about right for this administration.

“Everybody’s job at the Trump Organization is to protect Mr. Trump. Every day most of us knew we were coming and we were going to lie for him about something. That became the norm.”

“I did the same thing that you’re doing now for 10 years. I protected Mr. Trump for 10 years. I can only warn people, the more people that follow Mr. Trump as I did blindly are going to suffer the same consequences that I’m suffering.”

-Michael Cohen

And if Trump can get the NOAA to lie for him, what else? The Bureau of Labor Statistics? By the time Trump's first term is up, will there be any objective reality in our government?
 
And the Goebbels Media eats crow once again.

Oh goodie, the President of the United States King Donald I is now intimidating the agency of government responsible for our weather forecasting.
 
To be fair, before we condemn the NOAA outright, we should hold off to see if the statement came from career officials (which would certainly be disturbing in its own right) or a Trump appointee. I'm betting a dollar on the latter.

I'm assuming until proven otherwise that whoever wrote the statement for NOAA did so to save their neck in the face of Trump administration intimidation.

The difference is that people who work for Trump (or just support him on their own) lie to protect him. So the NOAA rewrites history and contradicts the NWS, all to protect Trump's image.

That's about right for this administration.

“Everybody’s job at the Trump Organization is to protect Mr. Trump. Every day most of us knew we were coming and we were going to lie for him about something. That became the norm.”

“I did the same thing that you’re doing now for 10 years. I protected Mr. Trump for 10 years. I can only warn people, the more people that follow Mr. Trump as I did blindly are going to suffer the same consequences that I’m suffering.”

-Michael Cohen

And if Trump can get the NOAA to lie for him, what else? The Bureau of Labor Statistics? By the time Trump's first term is up, will there be any objective reality in our government?

Exactly as predicted in 1984.
 
To be fair, before we condemn the NOAA outright, we should hold off to see if the statement came from career officials (which would certainly be disturbing in its own right) or a Trump appointee. I'm betting a dollar on the latter.

The weather services aren't going to broadcast past what they are given. Here is a video from 8/30. It has the projected path going into mid Florida, matching Trump's graph for predictions. In reality, the storm hooked north sooner than predicted. Had it stayed on it's predicted path, starting at 1:11 in the video, it could have continued into Alabama. As it stands, there was some damage at the Alabama/Georgia border.



Hurricane Dorian Google Maps

I find it so funny how the haters of Trump just loose all their marbles and scruples when wanting to push hate.
 
Well. well well, looks like early on even CNN reported that Alabama could be effected when it looked like Florida was going to get a direct hit with a CAT 5 even though they denied it. Over at the Hill there is an article about Trump posting the video of CNN's meteorologist reporting just that. Someone altered the video so it would repeat Alabama 10 times and then you see the CNN logo driving down the road crash and burn. :lol:

Trump tweets video of CNN saying Alabama was in the way of Hurricane Dorian | TheHill
 
I'm sure someone else brought it up, but why did this take a week to 'refute?'
 
I'm sure someone else brought it up, but why did this take a week to 'refute?'

Well, myself....

I like to see how foolish people will go with the TDS.

It's like going to the circus for free!
 
The weather services aren't going to broadcast past what they are given. Here is a video from 8/30. It has the projected path going into mid Florida, matching Trump's graph for predictions. In reality, the storm hooked north sooner than predicted. Had it stayed on it's predicted path, starting at 1:11 in the video, it could have continued into Alabama. As it stands, there was some damage at the Alabama/Georgia border.

I find it so funny how the haters of Trump just loose all their marbles and scruples when wanting to push hate.

Whoever it was in NOAA who released the fake statement was probably just trying to protect Trump from legal jeopardy:

Congress passed a law that makes it illegal to pass along a false forecast as an official Weather Service project. According to federal law, “Whoever knowingly issues or publishes any counterfeit weather forecast or warning of weather conditions falsely representing such forecast or warning to have been issued or published by the Weather Bureau, United States Signal Service, or other branch of the Government service, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ninety days, or both.”

But, as we all learned from the release of the Mueller Report and the subsequent hearing...

The Justice Department says the president can’t be indicted for violating federal law, and it’s unlikely a doctored weather map would result in the kind of special counsel investigation that dogged Trump’s presidency over Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election.

Was Trump really wrong about Hurricane Dorian’s threat to Alabama? - POLITICO

So the employee disgraced NOAA for nothing.
 
Whoever it was in NOAA who released the fake statement was probably just trying to protect Trump from legal jeopardy:



But, as we all learned from the release of the Mueller Report and the subsequent hearing...



Was Trump really wrong about Hurricane Dorian’s threat to Alabama? - POLITICO

So the employee disgraced NOAA for nothing.

My God.

Your side make up lies all the time.

Since when is "could hit Alabama" mean "insisting that Alabama faced a grave threat?"

Haven't you learned yet not to believe lying pundits?
 
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