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No,Trump did not not dissolve the WH pandemic response team.

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Remember the Dem motto. Never let a crisis go to waste.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...=wp_main&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter
Another lw BS story busted.

It has been alleged by multiple officials of the Obama administration, including in The Post, that the president and his then-national security adviser, John Bolton, “dissolved the office” at the White House in charge of pandemic preparedness. Because I led the very directorate assigned that mission, the counterproliferation and biodefense office, for a year and then handed it off to another official who still holds the post, I know the charge is specious.

Now, I’m not naive. This is Washington. It’s an election year. Officials out of power want back into power after November. But the middle of a worldwide health emergency is not the time to be making tendentious accusations.



One such move at the NSC was to create the counterproliferation and biodefense directorate, which was the result of consolidating three directorates into one, given the obvious overlap between arms control and nonproliferation, weapons of mass destruction terrorism, and global health and biodefense. It is this reorganization that critics have misconstrued or intentionally misrepresented. If anything, the combined directorate was stronger because related expertise could be commingled.
 
Remember the Dem motto. Never let a crisis go to waste.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...=wp_main&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter
Another lw BS story busted.

It has been alleged by multiple officials of the Obama administration, including in The Post, that the president and his then-national security adviser, John Bolton, “dissolved the office” at the White House in charge of pandemic preparedness. Because I led the very directorate assigned that mission, the counterproliferation and biodefense office, for a year and then handed it off to another official who still holds the post, I know the charge is specious.

Now, I’m not naive. This is Washington. It’s an election year. Officials out of power want back into power after November. But the middle of a worldwide health emergency is not the time to be making tendentious accusations.



One such move at the NSC was to create the counterproliferation and biodefense directorate, which was the result of consolidating three directorates into one, given the obvious overlap between arms control and nonproliferation, weapons of mass destruction terrorism, and global health and biodefense. It is this reorganization that critics have misconstrued or intentionally misrepresented. If anything, the combined directorate was stronger because related expertise could be commingled.

Under what heading was this article published?


Trump disbanded NSC pandemic unit that experts had praised

The above article is not an opinion piece,,,,,,
 
Oh irony. Wonder if others will pick up on it.

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This is just an opinion piece, by someone who agreed with the reduction and reorganization of a much larger team that was area focused into a smaller "combined directorate."
 
very smart for Trump Republicans to push that opinion piece. some folks will buy it.
 
Remember the Dem motto. Never let a crisis go to waste.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...=wp_main&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter
Another lw BS story busted.

It has been alleged by multiple officials of the Obama administration, including in The Post, that the president and his then-national security adviser, John Bolton, “dissolved the office” at the White House in charge of pandemic preparedness. Because I led the very directorate assigned that mission, the counterproliferation and biodefense office, for a year and then handed it off to another official who still holds the post, I know the charge is specious.

Now, I’m not naive. This is Washington. It’s an election year. Officials out of power want back into power after November. But the middle of a worldwide health emergency is not the time to be making tendentious accusations.



One such move at the NSC was to create the counterproliferation and biodefense directorate, which was the result of consolidating three directorates into one, given the obvious overlap between arms control and nonproliferation, weapons of mass destruction terrorism, and global health and biodefense. It is this reorganization that critics have misconstrued or intentionally misrepresented. If anything, the combined directorate was stronger because related expertise could be commingled.

Wow, it sounds like you write talking points for the Trump White House.

For the sake of argument I'll pretend they didn't actually "dissolve" the unit. Maybe they didn't.

But whatever they left intact failed miserably. While the socialist Chinese built hospitals in days, the "exceptional" US system still doesn't have testing kits or masks.

A major black eye for Bumble Drumpf and our ****ed up healthcare system for profit.
 
Under what heading was this article published?


Trump disbanded NSC pandemic unit that experts had praised

The above article is not an opinion piece,,,,,,

Why do you continue to follow fake news? he didn't disbanded it.

it was consolidated with other departments.
Also if you actually read the article the guy writing it was on the team.

the team was to large to be effective.
So i will take an opinion of the person involved as valid.
 
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Under what heading was this article published?


Trump disbanded NSC pandemic unit that experts had praised

The above article is not an opinion piece,,,,,,

very smart for Trump Republicans to push that opinion piece. some folks will buy it.

I wonder which is more credible...

An opinion piece from a person who was directly involved with an action...or a news article which quotes the opinion of a person who lost her job as the result of an action?

I wonder which is more credible...

The article that explains completely and exactly what happened? Or the article that doesn't mention the rest of the story until almost at the very end of the article?

I wonder how many people in this forum have read these two articles...entirely? I wonder how many people in this forum have the ability to glean the facts and discard the opinions?
 
Video emerges showing Trump talking about cutting pandemic team in 2018, despite saying last week 'I didn't know about it' | The Independent

A video has emerged of Donald Trump talking about cutting the US pandemic response team in 2018 – days after claiming that he knew nothing about the disbanded White House unit.

Mr Trump said of the pandemic team that “some of the people we’ve cut they haven’t been used for many, many years and if we ever need them we can get them very quickly and rather then spending the money”.

What a surprise, Trump "knows nothing" about something he did know about.
 
I wonder which is more credible...

An opinion piece from a person who was directly involved with an action...or a news article which quotes the opinion of a person who lost her job as the result of an action?

I wonder which is more credible...

The article that explains completely and exactly what happened? Or the article that doesn't mention the rest of the story until almost at the very end of the article?

I wonder how many people in this forum have read these two articles...entirely? I wonder how many people in this forum have the ability to glean the facts and discard the opinions?

you fight the good fight for Trump. i know it empowers you.

just ignore the facts and stuff. that stuff hurts.
 

Yes, the obama administration blew the team to over 400 people 4x what it had been and they were segregated off and were not as effective.
you should actually read the article in the OP as the person was actually on the team and part of the group that decided to slim the team
down to be more effective
 
you fight the good fight for Trump. i know it empowers you.

just ignore the facts and stuff. that stuff hurts.

that is what you are doing here ignoring facts so why are you projecting?
 
Yes, the obama administration blew the team to over 400 people 4x what it had been and they were segregated off and were not as effective.
you should actually read the article in the OP as the person was actually on the team and part of the group that decided to slim the team
down to be more effective

From 2018:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...n-charge-of-pandemic-response-exits-abruptly/

The top White House official responsible for leading the U.S. response in the event of a deadly pandemic has left the administration, and the global health security team he oversaw has been disbanded under a reorganization by national security adviser John Bolton.

The abrupt departure of Rear Adm. Timothy Ziemer from the National Security Council means no senior administration official is now focused solely on global health security. Ziemer’s departure, along with the breakup of his team, comes at a time when many experts say the country is already underprepared for the increasing risks of a pandemic or bioterrorism attack.

Did Trump Administration Fire the US Pandemic Response Team?

It’s thus true that the Trump administration axed the executive branch team responsible for coordinating a response to a pandemic and did not replace it, eliminating Ziemer’s position and reassigning others, although Bolton was the executive at the top of the National Security Council chain of command at the time.

You can believe they were just reorganized into a more effective group and that's why we've been having top notch handling of this virus. :lol:
 
Yes, the obama administration blew the team to over 400 people 4x what it had been and they were segregated off and were not as effective.
you should actually read the article in the OP as the person was actually on the team and part of the group that decided to slim the team
down to be more effective

Slim the team down to be more effective. Is that like the old talking point for business about doing more with less? If it takes twenty people to build a house in a hundred days that means it should take ten people to build it in fifty days according to that line of logic. Must be that fuzzy math W was pushing years ago.
 
From 2018:
You can believe they were just reorganized into a more effective group and that's why we've been having top notch handling of this virus. :lol:

This is where not reading the OP hurts your argument. From the OP.

It has been alleged by multiple officials of the Obama administration, including in The Post, that the president and his then-national security adviser, John Bolton, “dissolved the office” at the White House in charge of pandemic preparedness. Because I led the very directorate assigned that mission, the counterproliferation and biodefense office, for a year and then handed it off to another official who still holds the post, I know the charge is specious.

One such move at the NSC was to create the counterproliferation and biodefense directorate, which was the result of consolidating three directorates into one, given the obvious overlap between arms control and nonproliferation, weapons of mass destruction terrorism, and global health and biodefense. It is this reorganization that critics have misconstrued or intentionally misrepresented. If anything, the combined directorate was stronger because related expertise could be commingled.

You should actually try reading and educating yourself on something more than just hate trump.
this will actually allow for you to understand facts of what happened and what is going on and allow you
to get to the truth.
 
Slim the team down to be more effective. Is that like the old talking point for business about doing more with less? If it takes twenty people to build a house in a hundred days that means it should take ten people to build it in fifty days according to that line of logic. Must be that fuzzy math W was pushing years ago.

No if it takes 20 people to build a house and you have 60 people working on it and they are getting in each others way and causing other problems then 60 people are not as effective as 20 people.
You don't even know what logic is when you can't even articulate it correctly.

There is a time when more resources on something actually hurts production not helps it.
there is diminishing returns on throwing more people onto something.

This is why contractors never schedule trades into a house that are going to get in the way of each other. Such as electrical and heating and air.
they are on different schedules and both need the attic to do what they need. they will put the plumbers and the electrical or plumbing and air guys in because
they are working on different sections of the house.

i am going to schedule my heating and air guys before my electrical guys as so the heating air guys do not have to deal with all the electric wires when trying to run
their vents.

if you had any clue of what you were talking about you would know this.
 
This is where not reading the OP hurts your argument. From the OP.

It has been alleged by multiple officials of the Obama administration, including in The Post, that the president and his then-national security adviser, John Bolton, “dissolved the office” at the White House in charge of pandemic preparedness. Because I led the very directorate assigned that mission, the counterproliferation and biodefense office, for a year and then handed it off to another official who still holds the post, I know the charge is specious.

One such move at the NSC was to create the counterproliferation and biodefense directorate, which was the result of consolidating three directorates into one, given the obvious overlap between arms control and nonproliferation, weapons of mass destruction terrorism, and global health and biodefense. It is this reorganization that critics have misconstrued or intentionally misrepresented. If anything, the combined directorate was stronger because related expertise could be commingled.

You should actually try reading and educating yourself on something more than just hate trump.
this will actually allow for you to understand facts of what happened and what is going on and allow you
to get to the truth.


Truth? I guess Trump didn't close the NSC pandemic unit and it's all under control. :lamo
 
So i will take an opinion of the person involved as valid.

Not when it comes to criticism of the admin and Trump himself. Then you turn off your validity meter, don't you.
 
Truth? I guess Trump didn't close the NSC pandemic unit and it's all under control. :lamo

According to the guy that was on the team he didn't. The teams were consolidated.
 
Not when it comes to criticism of the admin and Trump himself. Then you turn off your validity meter, don't you.

The guy that was on the team the head of the team would have more information than you do.
SO i will believe the guy that was in charge over random internet poster, but as typical
facts don't care about your feelings.
 
That's what disbanding is.

no disbanding would mean that it was completely gotten rid of.
it wasn't it was consolidated into other departments but it still exists.

see the OP. it gives you facts.
 
Truth? I guess Trump didn't close the NSC pandemic unit and it's all under control. :lamo

The guy that was on the team says that is correct.
why do you not believe a guy that was actually one of the leads or in charge of one of the teams.
 
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