Lots of reading here. However none of it on topic. The debate we were having was this:
Of the people who receive welfare benefits, how many of them work? You stated that the majority of them work. I showed a graph from a liberal organization which was done based on 2002 numbers.
Though I could not find a more up to date chart, this fact remains: The welfare population DOES NOT fare better in the employment numbers than the overall population of the country. I would be willing to make this "guess":
Less welfare people work now then they did in 2002.
Your claim that the majority of welfare recipients work is invalid and false.
only the rich have the money to pay the debt.
So any other deal only results in forever debt slavery
The unlimited debt ceiling should never be on the table. Who would think that is ok? I would be ok to them tying it to a percentage of the GDP, but not a unlimited ceiling.
Again. How much do you think will be generated by obama's tax increase on 'the rich'?
Again. How much do you think will be generated by obama's tax increase on 'the rich'?
With Obamas figures, a small amount to help nearly balance the budget. And still they refuse to pay this
TINY amount.
They need to be taxed 80% untill debt is $2B.
Here you go:
Tax Cuts For Wealthy Americans Cost Treasury $11.6 Million Every Hour
One whole hell of a lot more than getting rid of big bird!
If the U.S. reverted to Clinton-era marginal tax rates, the U.S. Treasury would net an additional $72 billion annually,
Tax cuts cost nothing.
That is such an idiotic notion, its no wonder the conservatives lost the election!
Code: Obama needs tax hikes on the wealthy because he has been engaging class warfare for four years. If he doesn't get specifically tax rate increases, then his own base like haymarket here will lambaste him....
Fundamentally, there is absolutely NO difference from $400 Billion coming into the government through deduction removal, or tax increase. They both raise the effective rate a person pays, so this is purely political BS.
Massive voter fraud and taxpayer funded handouts had much more to do wit that.
But, that's a topic for another thread.
Feel free to explain how not taxing enough got us into debt without mentioning spending.
That is such an idiotic notion, its no wonder the conservatives lost the election!
I hope he stays firm on this. The wealthy can and should pay more!
You can afford it. Shut up and pay!
What do you think obama will do with this "extra" money?
I thought we elected Presidents here in America...I wasn't aware we now vote for Kings.
Hardly. One has to examine just who this new revenue will stem from and the immediate effect it will have on said individual's financial standing. An effective tax hike on an individual making $35,000 will have a much greater impact than that same hike on someone earning tenfold that amount. As will lets say, closing the Mortgage Interest Deduction versus Charitable deductions. Not all taxes and deductions are created equal, nor are consumers and their respective psyches.
Since 60% of Americans say let the tax cuts expire for the rich, I trust they will make the right decision, or, rightfully face the consequences in 2014.
The only purpose for raising tax rates is to damage the Republican Party. There IS no other reason. The last thing on Obama's mind is balancing a budget or paying down the debt.
I don't really thing the left leaning media has that much of an edge anymore. Given the internet, right-wing talk radio, and cable television news like Fox Commentary and shows like "The Blaze", there is plenty of media for anyone's interest and it's the fault of the person for not seeking out different points of views.
that is beyond dispute-given that Obunny rejects any plan that actually raises revenue but doesn't raise rates on the two percent
more appeals to the mediocrity
that is what is killing this country
children are in control