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No federal charges for New York policeman in 2014 'I can't breathe' death

I don’t need to take his word for it but it’s worth noting that he didn’t need to examine the body because he reviewed the ME’s autopsy report. And as a prominent doctor of internal medicine reached a different conclusion based on the documented evidence. I’m pointing out that the ME never established a physiological link between those events.

The ME's autopsy report said Garner died from the chokehold.

Medical examiners examine the bodies. They don't look at someone else's report.

You have yet to present any evidence that she took liberties.
 
The ME's autopsy report said Garner died from the chokehold.

Medical examiners examine the bodies. They don't look at someone else's report.

You have yet to present any evidence that she took liberties.

And a professional medical examiner should know that they must support their conclusions with documented evidence in their report. That conclusion was not supported in the report and there is nothing in the ME’s testimony which establishes the necessary link. Don’t demand evidence for contesting an opinion that didn’t have supporting evidence.
 
I don’t need to take his word for it but it’s worth noting that he didn’t need to examine the body because he reviewed the ME’s autopsy report. And as a prominent doctor of internal medicine reached a different conclusion based on the documented evidence. I’m pointing out that the ME never established a physiological link between those events. Do you have any evidence to the contrary?

There is no physiological link between scaring an old person with heart problems and a heart attack coming shortly after. This does not mean that there is no crime involved.
 
And a professional medical examiner should know that they must support their conclusions with documented evidence in their report. That conclusion was not supported in the report and there is nothing in the ME’s testimony which establishes the necessary link. Don’t demand evidence for contesting an opinion that didn’t have supporting evidence.

Please post a link to the autopsy that has no evidence with it.
 
There is no physiological link between scaring an old person with heart problems and a heart attack coming shortly after. This does not mean that there is no crime involved.

No proximate cause means no case.
 
Homicide is a catch all phrase and does not mean the death was criminal.

Holy Christ! Where do you people come up with this crap? Homicide by definition is an unlawful criminal act.
 
[h=1]No federal charges for New York policeman in 2014 'I can't breathe' death[/h]No federal charges for New York policeman in 2014 'I can't breathe' death - Reuters
NEW YORK/WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The New York police officer who put Eric Garner in a fatal chokehold during an attempted 2014 arrest, fueling the rise of the Black Lives Matter movement, will not face federal criminal charges, Brooklyn’s top federal prosecutor said on Tuesday.

Garner’s death on a sidewalk during an arrest for allegedly selling untaxed cigarettes, and his gasped final words “I can’t breathe” caught on bystander video, played a key role in the rise of the movement decrying excessive use of force by police officers against black men and teenagers in the United States.
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The killing of Eric Garner was five years ago, the statute of limitations on whether to bring charges against the NY police officer that put Eric Garner in an illegal choke hold suffocating him runs out tomorrow. The DOJ declined to prosecute but the Civil Division of the DOJ recommended prosecuting the police officer Daniel Pantaleo. Attorney General William Barr broke the stalemate by making the decision that the DOJ will not charge or prosecute Pantaleo.

So the Obama DOJ did not prosecute any police officers involved in this incident?


Mon December 8, 2014
President Barack Obama said Wednesday that he and outgoing Attorney General Eric Holder are "not going to let up" in the effort to solve the problem of racial tensions that exists between law enforcement officers and minorities in communities nationwide. Obama's remarks came soon after a grand jury decided not to indict a white police officer in the July chokehold death of Eric Garner.
 
No proximate cause means no case.

Scaring an old person who dies subsequently from heart attack may very well be a proximate cause! Your argument is that ONLY a physiological link establishes proximate cause which is obviously wrong, especially when the victim says things like "I cann't breathe and you ignore it).
 
Please post a link to the autopsy that has no evidence with it.

Not necessarily as this report was evaluated not only by the NYPD Chief Surgeon but also by the Chief ME from St Louis who testified that the chokehold was not the cause of death.
 
Holy Christ! Where do you people come up with this crap? Homicide by definition is an unlawful criminal act.

You are confusing murder and homicide.
 
Saying that he got killed by a police officer is a lie ...

Remove the police officer from the equation and he doesn't die at all. That's just the simple truth
 
I gave the professional opinion of another medical examiner who was not working for the NYPD

Describing the chokehold as the first event in a lethal cascade of events, Dr. Floriana Persechino said she found hemorrhages on muscles inside the neck, root of tongue and the back of his neck. She said there was a 2-inch hemorrhage in front of his larynx. The hemorrhages, she said, occurred around the time of Garner's death. She noted that she found no visible injuries under Garner's neck, but said in her medical opinion, the 43-year-old father was put in a chokehold.

Persechino clarified that "chokehold" or "neck hold" is also a forensic term.

What was the actual cause of death according to the autopsy?
 
Holy Christ! Where do you people come up with this crap? Homicide by definition is an unlawful criminal act.

Not all homicides are crimes. However, all killings of humans are included in the homicide definition. Many homicides, such as murder and manslaughter, violate criminal laws. Others, such as a killing committed in justified self-defense, are not criminal. Illegal killings range from manslaughter to murder, with multiple degrees of each representing the gravity of the crime.

Homicide Definition - FindLaw
 
So the Obama DOJ did not prosecute any police officers involved in this incident?


Mon December 8, 2014
President Barack Obama said Wednesday that he and outgoing Attorney General Eric Holder are "not going to let up" in the effort to solve the problem of racial tensions that exists between law enforcement officers and minorities in communities nationwide. Obama's remarks came soon after a grand jury decided not to indict a white police officer in the July chokehold death of Eric Garner.

This thread has nothing to do with Obama.
 
Not necessarily as this report was evaluated not only by the NYPD Chief Surgeon but also by the Chief ME from St Louis who testified that the chokehold was not the cause of death.

I didn't know they flew the Chief ME from St. Louis out to examine Garner's body. Link?
 
Homicide is a catch all phrase and does not mean the death was criminal.

Correct! :lol:

Not all homicides are crimes. However, all killings of humans are included in the homicide definition. Many homicides, such as murder and manslaughter, violate criminal laws. Others, such as a killing committed in justified self-defense, are not criminal. Illegal killings range from manslaughter to murder, with multiple degrees of each representing the gravity of the crime.

Homicide Definition - FindLaw
 
Like Rodney King, dude wouldn’t stay down, that never ends well.
 
So the Obama DOJ did not prosecute any police officers involved in this incident?


Mon December 8, 2014
President Barack Obama said Wednesday that he and outgoing Attorney General Eric Holder are "not going to let up" in the effort to solve the problem of racial tensions that exists between law enforcement officers and minorities in communities nationwide. Obama's remarks came soon after a grand jury decided not to indict a white police officer in the July chokehold death of Eric Garner.

Aug. 1, 2014: The city medical examiner’s office rules Garner’s death a homicide caused by neck compressions from a chokehold.

Aug. 23, 2014: Over 2,500 people march on Staten Island in protest of Garner’s death.

Sept. 19, 2014: Dr. Michael Baden, a forensic pathologist hired by Garner’s family, agrees with findings that a chokehold caused Garner’s death. Patrick Lynch, the president of the Police Benevolent Association, says that Pantaleo used a “seatbelt” maneuver and that the neck compressions were likely caused by lifesaving medical procedures.

Dec. 3, 2014: A grand jury weighing whether to indict him finds “no reasonable cause” to bring charges against Pantaleo, triggering protests. U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder says federal authorities will conduct a civil rights investigation.

Dec. 20, 2014: A gunman ambushes two New York City Police officers in a patrol car and shoots them to death before killing himself. Authorities say Ismaaiyl Brinsley announced online he was planning to shoot two “pigs” in retaliation for Garner’s death.

July 13, 2015: Garner’s family settles a lawsuit against the city for $5.9 million.

July 11, 2016: Garner’s siblings lend their voices to a song titled “I Can’t Breathe” that was released for the second anniversary of his death.

June 21, 2017: Garner’s family, along with Al Sharpton, meet privately with Justice Department officials. They are told the investigation is still active.

April 19, 2018: Federal civil rights prosecutors recommend charging Pantaleo.

July 16, 2018: The New York Police Department says it will allow disciplinary proceedings against Pantaleo, saying it’s run out of patience with federal authorities’ indecision.

July 21, 2018: Disciplinary proceedings against Pantaleo begin.

May 13, 2019: After many delays, the NYPD disciplinary trial begins for Pantaleo.

May 14, 2019: The NYPD official in charge of training recruits says the restraint technique Pantaleo used on Garner “meets the definition” of a chokehold. The practice was banned in the 1990s.

June 6, 2019: The disciplinary hearing for Pantaleo ends. It can take up to three months before an administrative judge recommends a punishment to the police commissioner.

July 16, 2019: Federal prosecutors say they will not bring charges against Pantaleo, a decision made one day before the five-year anniversary of Garner’s death.
 
Remove the police officer from the equation and he doesn't die at all. That's just the simple truth

How do you know? Any one of us could die of any number of reasons at any time.
 
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