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Nielson Admts Russians Meddled

Slavister said:
You mean every voter should NOT have relied on what they heard or read about the person but instead should have done... uh.. what? homework? How exactly? Would not "homework" in fact involve reading and hearing about the person? Please educate us...
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if you didn't understand what i meant by homework, you should not be discussing voting!
 
Master PO said:
if you didn't understand what i meant by homework, you should not be discussing voting!
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Actually, I understand. It means you had no point to make but put together some words that you thought sounded good, maybe even sophisticated. LOL
 
As Nielson ends up circling the drain with the rest of this disgraceful Trump crowd she will be left trying to stick her head above the fray yelling out "but I almost quit this job once, don't I get credit for that."

In a word NO!
 
Slavister said:
Actually, I understand. It means you had no point to make but put together some words that you thought sounded good, maybe even sophisticated. LOL
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it means it went over you head and thats sad!

well i will have to explain then.....when you vote for someone you should always know the positions the candidate takes on things like firearms , constitution, federal laws, rights, immigration, commerce.

that way if some tells you something different then what you know by doing your own homework, you can challenge them on what they are saying.....

school is out!
 
Master PO said:
it means it went over you head and thats sad!

well i will have to explain then.....when you vote for someone you should always know the positions the candidate takes on things like firearms , constitution, federal laws, rights, immigration, commerce.

that way if some tells you something different then what you know by doing your own homework, you can challenge them on what they are saying.....

school is out!
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Oh wait, Professor, and how do you know of positions the candidate takes on all those things? Could it be because someone reported on them taking these positions? Could it be because you read about them taking such positions?

And if you in fact listen to the person speak (again, as per reporting edited by someone else), how do you figure this out when the person keeps taking opposite positions on same things time and time again?
 
Slavister said:
Oh wait, Professor, and how do you know of positions the candidate takes on all those things? Could it be because someone reported on them taking these positions? Could it be because you read about them taking such positions?

And if you in fact listen to the person speak (again, as per reporting edited by someone else), how do you figure this out when the person keeps taking opposite positions on same things time and time again?
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well student, you look at many stories accross the news and not just 1, because if you really want to know the information's there
 
Master PO said:
i posted a link last week from ron rosenstein, who says no votes were changed by the Russians!
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That was a long time ago. minds change. Evidence changes. We shal all see.
 
Master PO said:
if evidence is found then it will be presented, but until then there is none.

but to speculate and act as if speculation is evidence is crazy
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The issues here are national security, national sovereignty, American democracy, all of which the American Right opposes as if a republican form of government necessarily excluded these inherent necessities.

Trump and You Fanboyz are meanwhile doing nothing to secure the midterm election and campaign which are underway. If the 2018 election in November turns out to resemble in any way the 2016 election, the Putin-Trump-Fanboyz will likely precipitate a crisis that will involve a swift and sudden action of state to arrest the destruction of our democracy and to restore the national sovereignty first and the national integrity foremost. The issue here is that we are dealing with Americans who are loyal to Putin rather than to the USA Constitution. Indeed, you guys like those Russian-Eurasian conservative and rightwing values, mores, societies to include their religion and that continue to exist in the places where the Enlightenment was never accepted, welcomed or allowed.

Fact is the election corruption of 2016 and the election of 2018 are one Putin-Trump-Fanboyz continuum run by same.
 
Slavister said:
You mean every voter should NOT have relied on what they heard or read about the person but instead should have done... uh.. what? homework? How exactly? Would not "homework" in fact involve reading and hearing about the person? Please educate us...
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Master PO said:
if you didn't understand what i meant by homework, you should not be discussing voting!
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Sounds drastic.

It is the case however that the advent of Putin-Trump-Fanboyz have changed radically the nature and character of sources of information to include so-called "homework." Voters, elections and election campaigns are no longer churning yardage on a level playing field. Our opponents are in fact ringers who are offside on every hike and in which the officials are in the employ or service of Putin-Trump. If we can't rely on a straight up election process and procedure in November then a radical response will be necessitated -- nay, mandated.

You all over there might want to start critiquing and criticizing Putin-Trump just a bit lest you appear to be Fanboyz and nothing but their Fanboyz. Because since mid-2015 to the present moment, Putin-Trump-Fanboyz have only and always been zero-sum right and nothing but righteous, lecturing, evasive, backtracking, scolding -- dismissive.
 
Fledermaus said:
So you are saying the people of the United States, having heard. truthfully about Hillary and the DNC's dishonesty, changed their votes....
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No on seems interested in that little fact. For those that yell about others not being truthful, learning the truth doesn't seem to be that important. It sucks that we had to find out as a result of Russia's doing.
 
Slavister said:
CLUE: you have no clue. In all likelihood, Russians successfully got dirt on both. But they wanted Trump over Hillary, so they used Dems dirt against Hillary publicly and are holding Trump dirt over Trump's head privately (for now), likely along with all financial dependencies that Trump and his business have on them.
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CLUE: Unless you have proof, 'in all likelihood' doesn't cut it when telling another they are wrong.
 
Tangmo said:
The issues here are national security, national sovereignty, American democracy, all of which the American Right opposes as if a republican form of government necessarily excluded these inherent necessities.

Trump and You Fanboyz are meanwhile doing nothing to secure the midterm election and campaign which are underway. If the 2018 election in November turns out to resemble in any way the 2016 election, the Putin-Trump-Fanboyz will likely precipitate a crisis that will involve a swift and sudden action of state to arrest the destruction of our democracy and to restore the national sovereignty first and the national integrity foremost. The issue here is that we are dealing with Americans who are loyal to Putin rather than to the USA Constitution. Indeed, you guys like those Russian-Eurasian conservative and rightwing values, mores, societies to include their religion and that continue to exist in the places where the Enlightenment was never accepted, welcomed or allowed.

Fact is the election corruption of 2016 and the election of 2018 are one Putin-Trump-Fanboyz continuum run by same.
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insurrection?

this post is just silly rambling!
 
Tangmo said:
Sounds drastic.

It is the case however that the advent of Putin-Trump-Fanboyz have changed radically the nature and character of sources of information to include so-called "homework." Voters, elections and election campaigns are no longer churning yardage on a level playing field. Our opponents are in fact ringers who are offside on every hike and in which the officials are in the employ or service of Putin-Trump. If we can't rely on a straight up election process and procedure in November then a radical response will be necessitated -- nay, mandated.

You all over there might want to start critiquing and criticizing Putin-Trump just a bit lest you appear to be Fanboyz and nothing but their Fanboyz. Because since mid-2015 to the present moment, Putin-Trump-Fanboyz have only and always been zero-sum right and nothing but righteous, lecturing, evasive, backtracking, scolding -- dismissive.
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more rambling!
 
If Putin-Trump-Fanboyz wreck two elections and in succession moreover while Trump does nothing to protect the USA against the Russian assaults then radical action would need to be taken to arrest the destruction and to restore the Constitution. I don't doubt that for a moment. Because absent radical action to stop Putin-Trump-Fanboyz elections and the Constitution itself will have been trashed and the path will be open and free to the destruction of USA national sovereignty, security, stability. We'd be talking the unacceptable and the intolerable here. The Fanboyz feigning normalcy about any such development or sequence of events is so unrealistic as to amount to a self-betrayal of intent, design, purpose: Consciousness, awareness, understanding. Putin is a tyrant with an agenda and there's no stopping him unless we ourselves stop him both here and there. And stop Putin-Trump we will do when the time may come to do exactly that.
 
Tangmo said:
If Putin-Trump-Fanboyz wreck two elections and in succession moreover while Trump does nothing to protect the USA against the Russian assaults then radical action would need to be taken to arrest the destruction and to restore the Constitution. I don't doubt that for a moment. Because absent radical action to stop Putin-Trump-Fanboyz elections and the Constitution itself will have been trashed and the path will be open and free to the destruction of USA national sovereignty, security, stability. We'd be talking the unacceptable and the intolerable here. The Fanboyz feigning normalcy about any such development or sequence of events is so unrealistic as to amount to a self-betrayal of intent, design, purpose: Consciousness, awareness, understanding. Putin is a tyrant with an agenda and there's no stopping him unless we ourselves stop him both here and there. And stop Putin-Trump we will do when the time may come to do exactly that.
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More Tangmobabble....
 
Master PO said:
if you are going to vote for someone, and i tell you things about that person negatively, and this gets you to vote for someone else, thats not illegal, it just you didn't do your homework
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Not commenting on the legality.
 
Master PO said:
clear?

there is none presented yet!

you are going to have to have something and currently you dont in 1 1/2 yrs
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How long did the Benghazi investigation take? How many indictments came out of that investigation? How many so far in Muellers?
 
Master PO said:
insurrection?

this post is just silly rambling!
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Master PO said:
more rambling!
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Groundhog Day hit and run snipe posts are common over there when it comes to the untouchable Putin-Trump & Fanboyz. I reiterate that if you boyz over there had at least a critique of Putin or Trump or some criticism of Putin-Trump you all might not appear so unrelenting in your campaign to make the USA more like Putin's Russia. Trump is meanwhile doing nothing to protect the United States and its people from the Russian attackers who are fixed on our elections to create and force the great divide that split open at the 2016 election and campaign.

So if the 2018 election becomes another Putin-Trump & Fanboyz disaster then our history of free and fair elections will be ended. As will our democracy. And Constitution. A restoration of it will be needed and it will occur -- efficiently and effectively at the top only. To say insurrection misses this point entirely. It's both the 800 pound gorilla and the elephant in the room. To paraphrase a famous actor, if you want a guarantee buy a toaster but after that this post and its statement will be the next best thing to invest in.
 
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Tangmo said:
Groundhog Day hit and run snipe posts are common over there when it comes to the untouchable Putin-Trump & Fanboyz. I reiterate that if you boyz over there had at least a critique of Putin or Trump or some criticism of Putin-Trump you all might not appear so unrelenting in your campaign to make the USA more like Putin's Russia. Trump is meanwhile doing nothing to protect the United States and its people from the Russian attackers who are fixed on our elections to create and force the great divide that split open at the 2016 election and campaign. If the 2018 election becomes another Putin-Trump & Fanboyz disaster then our history of free and fair elections will be ended. As will our democracy. And Constitution. A restoration of it will be needed and it will occur -- efficiently and effectively at the top only. To say insurrection misses this point entirely. It's what I've been hearing through all of this year to include some of last year. To paraphrase a famous actor, if you want a guarantee buy a toaster but after that this post and its statement will be the next best thing to invest in.
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your comment from the other posting before hinted at insurrection.....if the mid-terms were like 2016

i dont give a crap about Putin, i care about rights, the economy and foreign trade
 
Master PO said:
your comment from the other posting before hinted at insurrection.....if the mid-terms were like 2016

i dont give a crap about Putin, i care about rights, the economy and foreign trade
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It is ridiculous to talk about insurrection and your post might be the first time I've seen the word applied to situations and circumstances some others call treason. And to players in the WH some folk call traitors and agents of Putin, KGB, FSA, GRU among other clandestine agencies that comprise the nefarious Russian state and government. You have also missed Geo. Washington, the Founders, the military officer oath, the Constitution and the three coequal and power balanced branches of the government. And what the Founders led by Washington handed down to us should a tyrant ever gain authority and power in the WH. Which brings us to the present, with the integrity of the election in November holding it all in the balance.
 
Master PO said:
its been 1 1/2 yrs, and we are still waiting sooner or later there has to be a end!
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Not to worry. Trump will come to an end and it will be sooner than you think. He's as guilty as sin.
 
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