NFL owners, players punt on protest rule change

[CletusWilbury]

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NFL owners, players punt on protest rule change

Facing a firestorm of vitriol from across the political spectrum, NFL owners and players met yesterday to discuss social issues — but the two sides punted when it came to confronting the flashpoint national anthem protest that has divided the nation.

The league’s policy regarding whether or not players must stand during the “The Star-Spangled Banner” did not come up during the meeting in New York. That policy states that players “should” stand for the anthem but does not force those who have been kneeling in protest to rise.
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NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell indicated that the league did not try to ask players to commit to standing during the pregame tradition.

“We did not ask for that,” Goodell said. “
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and, of course
Trump Criticizes N.F.L. for Not Penalizing Anthem Kneeling

Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump

The NFL has decided that it will not force players to stand for the playing of our National Anthem. Total disrespect for our great country!

He's right on top of that issue.

 

[Crovax]

"The league’s policy regarding whether or not players must stand during the “The Star-Spangled Banner” did not come up during the meeting in New York."

That was the entire purpose of the meeting. Guess the two sides were pretty far apart on the issue

 

[ecofarm]

It was decided before the meeting that changing the rule was off the table. The meeting was intended to be, and was, about other stuff.

ps. Punting is giving the ball to the other team. Not the same as kicking a can down the road.

 

[Cigar]

Personally, I believe tat standing for the National Anthem is a Respectful thing. It doesn't make me a Patriot, a Good Christian, a Good Husband or Good Citizen, becaue my actions determine those things.

BTW, Disrespect is really Common these days and that what taking a Knee is pointing out.

I was taught, respect goes both ways.

 

[Fenton Lum]

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NFL owners, players punt on protest rule change



and, of course
Trump Criticizes N.F.L. for Not Penalizing Anthem Kneeling



He's right on top of that issue.

Poor Don, tweeting is not leading and he can't figure that out at all. Furthermore the nation is not divided on “disrespecting” the flag; it is merely that some folk are ok with power of the corporate state being able to murder certain citizens in the streets with impunity – even when said certain citizens are unarmed and unarmed children and teenagers – and others are not ok with the power of the corporate state murdering any citizen.

 

[Fenton Lum]

Personally, I believe tat standing for the National Anthem is a Respectful thing. It doesn't make me a Patriot, a Good Christian, a Good Husband or Good Citizen, becaue my actions determine those things.

BTW, Disrespect is really Common these days and that what taking a Knee is pointing out.

I was taught, respect goes both ways.

I refuse to respect a power structure that murders citizens and unarmed citzens in the streets with impunity. We use that as an excuse to invade others militarily and occupy their lands.

 

[Tigerace117]

Poor Don, tweeting is not leading and he can't figure that out at all. Furthermore the nation is not divided on “disrespecting” the flag; it is merely that some folk are ok with power of the corporate state being able to murder certain citizens in the streets with impunity – even when said certain citizens are unarmed and unarmed children and teenagers – and others are not ok with the power of the corporate state murdering any citizen.

Ah, more rather laughable rhetoric from our resident "socialist".

Have you figured out why a "charity" would need automatic weapons to feed kids yet?

 

[Cigar]

I refuse to respect a power structure that murders citizens and unarmed citzens in the streets with impunity. We use that as an excuse to invade others militarily and occupy their lands.

True ... and I don't see talking a Knee as a show of disrespect.

What I do find disrespectful, is someone mandating that I do something that I don't want to do.

As a matter of fact, the more someone tries to force me to do something, the less likely it's going to happen ... just ask my wife. :lol:

 

[CletusWilbury]

True ... and I don't see talking a Knee as a show of disrespect.

What I do find disrespectful, is someone mandating that I do something that I don't want to do.

As a matter of fact, the more someone tries to force me to do something, the less likely it's going to happen ... just ask my wife. :lol:

or mine!

 

[lurchadams]

Personally, I believe tat standing for the National Anthem is a Respectful thing. It doesn't make me a Patriot, a Good Christian, a Good Husband or Good Citizen, becaue my actions determine those things.

BTW, Disrespect is really Common these days and that what taking a Knee is pointing out.

I was taught, respect goes both ways.

When I go to an event where the national anthem is played I stand and put my hand over my heart. If someone prefers to kneel I don't consider it an insult against me. I'm deeply saddened so many folks are throwing fits over a few football players expressing themselves. It's sure not making me enjoy football any less.

 

[Cigar]

When I go to an event where the national anthem is played I stand and put my hand over my heart. If someone prefers to kneel I don't consider it an insult against me. I'm deeply saddened so many folks are throwing fits over a few football players expressing themselves. It's sure not making me enjoy football any less.

When I go to Sports Events, most the people don't even take their hats off and half of the Guys are either Drunk of standing with their pricks in their hands in the washroom.

 

[KevinKohler]

It was decided before the meeting that changing the rule was off the table. The meeting was intended to be, and was, about other stuff.

ps. Punting is giving the ball to the other team. Not the same as kicking a can down the road.

Quarter lateral, then?

 

[Saladin4]

When I go to Sports Events, most the people don't even take their hats off and half of the Guys are either Drunk of standing with their pricks in their hands in the washroom.

That sounds like a NASCAR race.....Awful

 

[Fenton Lum]

Ah, more rather laughable rhetoric from our resident "socialist".

Have you figured out why a "charity" would need automatic weapons to feed kids yet?

I love labels, you don't have to think do ya.

 

[Fenton Lum]

When I go to Sports Events, most the people don't even take their hats off and half of the Guys are either Drunk of standing with their pricks in their hands in the washroom.

Probably the best thing to do since sporting events have been turned into North Koreanish homages of subjugation to the power of the corporate state. Cover your crotch with one hand and your anus with the other.

 

[Lursa]

Maybe they should just stop playing the national anthem at sporting events.

Would that be horrible? I'm not sure how it would be disrespectful or unpatriotic.

 

[Tigerace117]

I love labels, you don't have to think do ya.

You love being called out on what you are, don't ya.

Have you figured out why a "charity" would need automatic weapons to feed kids?

 

[Skeptic Bob]

You can't force respect. If someone only stands because they are forced to then they still aren't standing out of respect.

 

[lurchadams]

That sounds like a NASCAR race.....Awful

I only go to NASCAR events for the preceding gay pride parades.

 

[AGENT J]

Personally, I believe tat standing for the National Anthem is a Respectful thing. It doesn't make me a Patriot, a Good Christian, a Good Husband or Good Citizen, becaue my actions determine those things.

BTW, Disrespect is really Common these days and that what taking a Knee is pointing out.

I was taught, respect goes both ways.

And you are free to have that opinion or any other one. Respect goes both ways and understanding your opinions and feelings are no more than that goes both ways too.

Many say they feel its disrespectful, many feel its not and I respect the fact that both are only opinions. Unfortunately some people try to deny that fact, luckily the majority laugh at them.

 

[Saladin4]

I only go to NASCAR events for the preceding gay pride parades.

That NASCAR crowd always stands for the flag...Unfortunately it is the Confederate Flag

 

[Thoreau72]

"The league’s policy regarding whether or not players must stand during the “The Star-Spangled Banner” did not come up during the meeting in New York."

That was the entire purpose of the meeting. Guess the two sides were pretty far apart on the issue

Or, perhaps the owners realized that siding with the intolerant Donald might be a big mistake. Maybe their attorneys advised them not to look like bigots?

 

[Herkamer63]

Well, if they care more about their payers' feelings than what the fans have paid to see (which includes standing for the National Anthem with right hand over heart and helmet in left hand), then they deserve to go under as a result. "Oh, but the NFL is doing better lately." Bull crap, and the ratings, along with ticket sales, sponsors, and merchandise, are disproving that. These owners are afraid to grow a pair and tell these players that what their doing is terrible business decision, and if they don't cut that crap out they (the players) will begin to take massive pay cuts.

They also need to have the balls to tell these players that cops, military (active/inactive), first responders, and regular people (white, black, Hispanic, or whatever) are all represented by the flag along with our national anthem, and if they kneel during that time, you're not only disrespecting bad cops, but all the good ones and everyone else that has been listed. All that stuff needs to come up before talking about bad cops because no one's saying that there are no bad ones, so I don't know who they're trying to tell that is unaware of this information. There can be, and should be a discussion on crooked law officers, but they should get their business back on track. People pay good money to watch a game after a long week, and the last thing they want to see is their teams telling them how unjust and immoral they are for allowing bad cops.

 

[AGENT J]

I actually LOVE this move by the NFL to continue to recommend the players "should" stand but still give them the freedom not too.

Now im already on record many times saying that the NFL gets to make the call what their employees do. If they would have "required" the players stand that would of been their choice and i'd support it. Its the NFL's company and employees :shrug:

But this is nice it shows they are listening to their employees and in a case where it doesn't interrupt the playing of football they choose to give the freedom for players voices to be heard and it shows great solidarity.

Of course in the future that "could" change but its really nice thing to do since they definitely dont have too. Good job NFL! Good for CK too more people are talking about the issue than ever before.

 

[VanceMack]

Viewership is down almost 20% since the protests started last year. The market will solve the problem one way or the other.