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Nfl 2019

justabubba said:

^ here is video; begin watching at 1:25 when the play is about to begin
at the 1:27 mark the QB released the ball; later at the 1:27 mark garrett contacts the QB
not a late hit as contact was immediately after release of the ball. confirmed by the fact that the refs threw no late hit flags
at 1:48 the QB begins attempt to remove garrett's helmet. this is where the QB initiates the incident
at 1:52 garrett begins his effort to remove the QB's helmet
white #66 is holding garrett the entire time
at 1:56 garrett removes QB helmet
at 1:58 garrett is holding QB's helmet and #66 is holding garrett. QB is just getting off of the ground and eludes the effort of #34 referee to restrain him from re-entering the fray
the QB is now pursuing garrett - while helmetless
at 1:59 referee is trying to separate #66 from garrett
at 2:01 garrett swings helmet at QB who is approaching him while garrett is still being held by #66 despite referee's attempt to separate #66 from garrett
helmet contacts helmetless QB who was pursuing garrett
2:02 QB puts his hands in the air in a "what did i do" fashion pretending to be the victim. pittsburg QBs are usually not such ******s
2:03 garrett gets punched by second lineman #53 while garrett is still being held by #66
2:04 #66 and #53 are on top of garrett, who is on the ground
2:05 #53 throws another punch at garrett, who is on the ground under #66 and #53
2:06 browns player attempts to get between garrett and #53 who is attacking garrett
2:06 #53 launches first kick at garrett's head
2:08 #53 piles on top of #66 who is still holding garrett on the ground
2:10 line judge #100 pulls #53 away from garrett and #66 begins to get off of garrett

all of that commotion begun by the QB who tried to remove garrett's helmet, had his own removed instead, then charged garret, who - while being held by lineman #66 - was again contacted by the helmetless QB, who then got whacked by his own helmet courtesy of garrett

15 yard penalty and ejection of garrett for using an empty helmet to contact another player by NFL rule
should have been an unsporting act by the QB and ejection called by the officials
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YES!!!!!! i cant believe you tripled down on this stupidity!!!!!

1:10 into your own video annonces says "that was WELL after the play"
1:27 CONTACT is made yes then for the next 3 seconds garrett is trying to wrestle the QB down AFTER the play
The rest of your lies, made up claims and feelings dont matter after that

YOU LOSE :laughat:

I cant believe you made that long post and included the video that proves you wrong simply to and have your posts and claims fail again . .man that was awesome THANK YOU!
Facts, Garrette, NFL, Video, Browns coach and teammates > than your feelings and lies

Anything else?(please god i hope so)

:popcorn2:
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
This is a debate forum and the back and forth is fun and all.. But after the game Garrett himself said none of this would have happened if he controlled himself ... He said: 'I lost my cool, it's on me'....

That pretty much ends the discussion.
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Some people simply arent interested in facts and common sense :shrug:
 
AGENT J said:
YES!!!!!! i cant believe you tripled down on this stupidity!!!!!

1:10 into your own video annonces says "that was WELL after the play"
1:27 CONTACT is made yes then for the next 3 seconds garrett is trying to wrestle the QB down AFTER the play
The rest of your lies, made up claims and feelings dont matter after that

YOU LOSE :laughat:

I cant believe you made that long post and included the video that proves you wrong simply to and have your posts and claims fail again . .man that was awesome THANK YOU!

Anything else?(please god i hope so)

:popcorn2:
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appears you again failed to watch the video carefully
the QB released the ball immediately before he was contacted/tackled by garrett. bet you did not notice on the tape that no flags were thrown for a late hit
why was a helmetless QB chasing after garrett? what was his purpose in doing that?
appears you are ok with one of your guys repeatedly kicking garrett in the head while he was lying on the ground with one of your lineman on top of him. chicken**** move by pouncey but he's a steeler so you're ok with it
got it. as a homer, you refuse to look at the events objectively
 
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justabubba said:
appears you again failed to watch the video carefully
the QB released the ball immediately before he was contacted/tackled by garrett. bet you did not notice on the tape that no flags were thrown for a late hit
why was a helmetless QB chasing after garrett? what was his purpose in doing that?
appears you are ok with one of your guys repeatedly kicking garrett in the head while he was lying on the ground with one of your lineman on top of him. chick**** move by pouncey but he's a steeler so you're ok with it
got it. as a homer, you refuse to look at the events objectively
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HOLY MELTDOWN BATMAN LMAO!!!

Hey look more lies and feelings that don't change facts :) This is awesome!
Fact remains Garrett started it by trying to drag the QB down after the play

Facts, Vudeo, NFL, Garrett, Browns players, Browns Coach > that your failed lies and feelings

now lets move on to your NEW failed and stupid claim so i can further own them and continue my entertainment.

Please quote me saying "im ok with ok with one of my guys repeatedly kicking garrett in the head while he was lying on the ground" thanks!

:popcorn2:
 
AGENT J said:
HOLY MELTDOWN BATMAN LMAO!!!

Hey look more lies and feelings that don't change facts :) This is awesome!
Fact remains Garrett started it by trying to drag the QB down after the play

Facts, Vudeo, NFL, Garrett, Browns players, Browns Coach > that your failed lies and feelings

now lets move on to your NEW failed and stupid claim so i can further own them and continue my entertainment.

Please quote me saying "im ok with ok with one of my guys repeatedly kicking garrett in the head while he was lying on the ground" thanks!

:popcorn2:
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actually, the incident was begun by your QB, after he was tackled, attempting to pull off garrett's helmet
 
justabubba said:
appears you again failed to watch the video carefully
the QB released the ball immediately before he was contacted/tackled by garrett. bet you did not notice on the tape that no flags were thrown for a late hit
why was a helmetless QB chasing after garrett? what was his purpose in doing that?
appears you are ok with one of your guys repeatedly kicking garrett in the head while he was lying on the ground with one of your lineman on top of him. chick**** move by pouncey but he's a steeler so you're ok with it
got it. as a homer, you refuse to look at the events objectively
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Some people have that strange gift, you know, the one where you find yourself rethinking a position because the guy now making the argument destroys what you once thought was an unassailable position. I see you quoted a good example of that.
 
justabubba said:
actually, the incident was begun by your QB, after he was tackled, attempting to pull off garrett's helmet
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A clear sign that he had not yet fully recovered from landing on his head a few weeks ago.
 
calamity said:
I don't know, JB. I kind of like Garrett, but he did wrestle the QB down about 5 seconds after the final play of a blow-out game. That Rudolph may have objected forcibly was not really unexpected. However, that he tried to escalate with a guy twice his size may explain why he will never be more than a back-up on a bad team.
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You would.
 
calamity said:
A clear sign that he had not yet fully recovered from landing on his head a few weeks ago.
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what makes it worse was chasing garrett - HELMETLESS - after the play was over

that QB may have been born concussed
 
justabubba said:
actually, the incident was begun by your QB, after he was tackled, attempting to pull off garrett's helmet
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BOOM!!! i see you are dodging my question and still trying to sell your proven wrong lie. I love destroying your lies.

No matter how many times you post that lie facts dont change. Garrett started it with the lat attempted take down.
Facts, your won Video, NFL, Garrett, Browns players, Browns Coach > that your failed lies and feelings


Now ill ask YOU again and much to my delight we'll watch you dodge and run again

Please quote me saying "im ok with ok with one of my guys repeatedly kicking garrett in the head while he was lying on the ground" thanks!
 
AGENT J said:
BOOM!!! i see you are dodging my question and still trying to sell your proven wrong lie. I love destroying your lies.

No matter how many times you post that lie facts dont change. Garrett started it with the lat attempted take down.
Facts, your won Video, NFL, Garrett, Browns players, Browns Coach > that your failed lies and feelings


Now ill ask YOU again and much to my delight we'll watch you dodge and run again

Please quote me saying "im ok with ok with one of my guys repeatedly kicking garrett in the head while he was lying on the ground" thanks!
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yea, that was a chicken**** move by one of your players, kicking garrett in the head while being held down by one of your linemen
 
Jack Hays said:
Garrett sowed the wind and reaped the whirlwind. His fault from start to finish.
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wrong
the steelers QB should have never attempted to remove garrett's helmet after he had been tackled. that act incited the ensuing incident
 
Jack Hays said:
Nope. QB's was a natural reaction to Garrett's cheap shot.
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get tackled and the QB is entitled to remove the tackler's helmet? when was that rule established?
 
Jack Hays said:
Natural reaction to all Garrett's extra-curricular roughing up on the ground.
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ah, the QB gets to take off the tackler's helmet if he believes the tackle was too hard ... when was that rule incorporated?
 
Change of speed, thoughts on the Kap workout?

Personally i think it’s for Jay Z to save face. I would have said no if I was Kap.
 
Higgins86 said:
Change of speed, thoughts on the Kap workout?

Personally i think it’s for Jay Z to save face. I would have said no if I was Kap.
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He did fine. The NFL made the whole thing into a gimmick but Kap did well. Wouldn't be surprised to see him in uniform again.
 
justabubba said:
ah, the QB gets to take off the tackler's helmet if he believes the tackle was too hard ... when was that rule incorporated?
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Looks like you may have been right all along, JB.

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And, this:

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supposedly occurring a moment before the helmet whack.
 
Higgins86 said:
Change of speed, thoughts on the Kap workout?

Personally i think it’s for Jay Z to save face. I would have said no if I was Kap.
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Its a publicity stunt. Kaepernick hasnt played in years, and he would have to learn a new offense if someone was to put him in the middle of a season.
 
justabubba said:
ah, the QB gets to take off the tackler's helmet if he believes the tackle was too hard ... when was that rule incorporated?
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QB grabbed at it. It never came off. Tackle was not "too hard." Problem was the after-tackle roughing up. Cheap stuff.
 
Bucky said:
He's a good player. I don't want to see the Browns penalized over a misunderstanding.
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A misunderstanding??? You call hitting someone's bare head with a helmet, a simple misunderstanding? Gosh, I hope you never misunderstand anything I say, if I'm less than 30 yards from you. LOL
 
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