New York cop killer released from prison given right to vote under new Cuomo policy

[Renae]

IYO, can someone atone for a murder with time served?

Atone, certainly. But we shouldn't give felons the right to vote back. They chose to commit crimes against society, yes, they have to serve time but the flip side of that is that they don't get a say in society, serving time doesn't bestow good judgement on someone.

 

[poweRob]

Atone, certainly. But we shouldn't give felons the right to vote back. They chose to commit crimes against society, yes, they have to serve time but the flip side of that is that they don't get a say in society, serving time doesn't bestow good judgement on someone.

What does?

 

[Renae]

What does?

Well, that's a great question. I think displays of bad judgement are easier to pinpoint, like committing a felony, and thus if you show that bad of judgement, you should treated accordingly.

See, the cynical thing here is, most felon's have a hard time finding work, amazing I know, and that means they are on the welfare rolls in higher numbers. Democrats are big on large rolls of welfare recipients, and making sure they know who to thank. Making sure people that are living on the dole can vote for their betters to keep the welfare going by say, letting felons vote....

 

[faithful_servant]

Investigate away. Felony sweeps in Florida that wipe away people with predominantly minority names with or without a criminal record right before an election didn't seem to bother the right one bit.

Making the hypocrisy score of the right now...

Voter Disenfranchisement = Good
Voter Enfranchisement = Bad​

/flush

 

[poweRob]

/flush

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

 

[Spartacus FPV]

I see, so if it's an act you don't feel is criminal, you don't think that it should apply.

No, where did you get that in what I said? I'm talking about degrees of criminality, from slipping 1mph over the speed limit to the very worse; They're all criminals. I imagine you've broken a law or two in your life, no?

Sorry, I believe the Right to Vote comes with a very real need to protect society from criminals.

What you believe doesn't matter if you cannot grasp the nature of a continuum.

 

[What if...?]

Seriously. You're gonna go there? LOL. That's the worst angle I can think of. You're logic is fatally flawed. They rebelled, against an unjust monarchy and set up a new nation. Completely different situation from a Cop Killer, but it's good to see your moral compass is that fubar that you aren't to be taken seriously moving forward.

The monarchy didn't consider itself unjust...

And I believe in redemption.

 

[Fishking]

I'm against anyone losing their right to vote at anytime, to include while being in jail. I do not like the potential power abuse and disenfranchisement that dynamic can create.

 

[Renae]

The monarchy didn't consider itself unjust...

And I believe in redemption.

Those in power rarely go "Damn, we're assholes..."

 

[What if...?]

Those in power rarely go "Damn, we're assholes..."

And it is quite definite that some cops deserve to be shot.

Don't know if that's the case here, but it is true.

Some PEOPLE deserve to be shot. Cops are people.

So there it is.

 

[HowardBThiname]

And it is quite definite that some cops deserve to be shot.

Don't know if that's the case here, but it is true.

Some PEOPLE deserve to be shot. Cops are people.

So there it is.

For crapsake -- nobody DESERVES to be shot. There may be situations when shooting someone is inevitable because that person poses a threat to others, but they don't deserve to be shot. Cops don't deserve to be shot. Perhaps some deserve to be arrested and charged with crimes, but they don't deserve to be shot. When we suggest that an extrajudicial killing is deserved in some manner, we are supporting vigilantism, or "taking the law into our own hands." Nope. That's not okay.

 

[calamity]

FoxNews.com - Breaking News | Latest News | Current News have to agree with her.

Why should he not be allowed to vote?

Why should anyone not be allowed to vote? What makes you so special that you believe you should be allowed to vote? I can think of a few reasons why you should be denied a vote, if you want to go there.

 

[Renae]

Why should he not be allowed to vote?

Why should anyone not be allowed to vote? What makes you so special that you believe you should be allowed to vote? I can think of a few reasons why you should be denied a vote, if you want to go there.

Felon's shouldn't be allowed to vote. They gave up that right when they committed a felony.

 

[Renae]

And it is quite definite that some cops deserve to be shot.

Don't know if that's the case here, but it is true.

Some PEOPLE deserve to be shot. Cops are people.

So there it is.

Just wow...

 

[calamity]

Felon's shouldn't be allowed to vote. They gave up that right when they committed a felony.

Maybe we should say people who gave up their biological identity should not be allowed to vote. I bet we can get a lot of people to agree to that. A vast majority, even. :roll:

 

[Renae]

Maybe we should say people who gave up their biological identity should not be allowed to vote. I bet we can get a lot of people to agree to that. A vast majority, even. :roll:

Sure, cause my gender some how harms society, but a cop killer, should be able to vote right?

 

[calamity]

Sure, cause my gender some how harms society, but a cop killer, should be able to vote right?

Why should any citizen be denied the right to vote?

 

[Bodi]

Why should any citizen be denied the right to vote?

Why should any citizen get any punishment for that matter?

 

[calamity]

Why should any citizen get any punishment for that matter?

Pulling their right to vote is more than punishment. It's a political tool.

 

[Bodi]

Pulling their right to vote is more than punishment. It's a political tool.

Are felons primarily affiliated to one party?

 

[calamity]

Are felons primarily affiliated to one party?

Felons should be imprisoned, but still be allowed to vote. Pretty much end of discussion.

 

[Bodi]

Felons should be imprisoned, but still be allowed to vote. Pretty much end of discussion.

Not at all... lose the right to vote forever.

 

[MrShangles]

I agree. If we are upset that “25 to life” did not take all of his life then that is one thing, but once done serving their sentence then why should their voting rights be withheld further?

His 2nd amendment too, right?
He’s probably been in prison getting trained by more criminals and y’all just want to open your arms to him and not even see how he does in the free world. Could y’all get any stupider.


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[MrShangles]

He is still a US citizen of legal age, his debt is deemed paid by society, than his rights need to be returned, except guns if he has a violent past.

He paid for his crimes, so why don’t you think he should get his gun privilege, y’all are saying he’s been in prison for years around other bad criminals, so he must be a model citizen now, prison make great citizens, don’t most that get out end up back in prison


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[What if...?]

For crapsake -- nobody DESERVES to be shot. There may be situations when shooting someone is inevitable because that person poses a threat to others, but they don't deserve to be shot. Cops don't deserve to be shot. Perhaps some deserve to be arrested and charged with crimes, but they don't deserve to be shot. When we suggest that an extrajudicial killing is deserved in some manner, we are supporting vigilantism, or "taking the law into our own hands." Nope. That's not okay.

I disagree.

The world would be a better place if a bunch of people got shot tomorrow.