New World Translation Committee Scholars? YES! In 7 minutes

[LittleNipper]

And here is where the trouble begins. The Alexandrian text is regarded as being influenced by a pagan culture and a group who denied the deity of CHRIST. On the other hand the Antioch text originates from the early disciples:

And again, it would appear that the Alexandrian text was not the most accurate copy of the Bible text. However, if a group wanted to deny the deity of CHRIST, then it would be the go to version.
What has been shown to us is this: God is one essence (ousia) and three persons or subjects (hypostases), namely the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Just as there can be musical trio, the three musicians share the same essence (ousia), they are human beings, yet each one is an individual person or subject (hypostases), so too God is one divine essence which just only applies to three individual subjects, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit The three persons of the Godhead are three centers of consciousness possessing volition. As Hank Hanegraaff puts it: “one What and three Whos.”

The doctrine of the Trinity is then a threefold biblical truth. First, there is one God. This is most clearly expressed in the beginning of the Jewish Shema: “Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one” (Deut. 6:4).

Second, the three persons share the same divine nature. The Father is God. This is why Christian prayers are addressed to “our Father in heaven” (Matt. 6:5). Jesus Christ is God. The prologue to the Gospel of John tells us: “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made…And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us” (Jn. 1:1-3, 14). Jesus is neither a demigod nor a creature made in the likeness of God but fully divine and fully human in one person. The Holy Spirit is God. Paul taught “the Lord is the Spirit” (2 Cor. 3:13) and Peter indicated lying to the Holy Spirit is tantamount to lying to God (Acts 5:3-5). Our verbal assaults upon one another can grieve the Spirit (Eph. 4:29-30), which tells us the Spirit is a person, since only a person can grieve. As such the Holy Spirit is the third person of the Trinity.

Third, the three persons are distinct from one another. Scriptures present clear subject-object relationships between the three divine persons. For example, at the baptism of Jesus, the Lord comes up from the water, the Spirit of God descends like a dove, and a voice from heaven says “This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased” (Matt. 3:16-17; cf. Mk. 1:10-11; Lk. 3:21-22). Prior to being put to death by stoning, the first Christian martyr Stephen was “full of the Holy Spirit,” and he “gazed into heaven a saw the glory of God and Jesus standing at the right hand of God. And he said, ‘Behold, I see the heavens open, and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God” (Acts 7:55-56).

John 14-16 further illustrates the subject-object relationship between the three persons of the Godhead:

• Christ asks the Father to give us the Helper, i.e., the Paraclete or Holy Spirit, and the Father sends the Spirit in the name of Christ (14:16).
• The Father sends the Helper in the name of Christ and the Spirit teaches and brings to our remembrance the teachings of Christ (14:26)
• Christ sends to us the Spirit from the Father, the Spirit proceeds from the Father, and bears witness about the Christ (15:26)
• Christ goes to the Father, the Spirit comes to us, He convicts the world concerning sin righteousness, and judgment (16:7-11).
• The Spirit guides us in all truth, yet never speaks on His own authority, but He speaks on behalf of Christ. All that the Father has belongs to Christ, and the Holy Spirit takes what belongs to Christ and declares it to us (16:12-15).

The entire article is located here: https://lovetruthblog.com/2021/05/1...happened-to-the-trinity-verse-of-1-john-57-8/

 

[weaver2]

Scholarly perspectives

• Support for the Alexandrian Text: The Alexandrian text-type is favored by the majority of modern textual critics, who believe it represents the most accurate and authentic version of the New Testament in the original language available today.
• Defense of NWT Scholarship: While acknowledging the NWT's unique translation choices, some scholars have commended its translators for their knowledge of Greek and Hebrew.
• Ongoing Debate: The debate over the NWT's accuracy and fidelity to the original text, particularly in areas where it diverges from mainstream theological interpretations, remains a significant subject of discussion among scholars and religious communities.

In conclusion, while the New World Translation committee consulted various texts, its primary reliance on the Alexandrian text-type (via Westcott and Hort) has been a point of contention and criticism. The debate surrounding the NWT highlights the ongoing complexities and diverse perspectives within biblical textual criticism and translation.
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There is really no need for new translations, old translations, scholarship, history, or argument. The message Jesus preached is very simple: Because God loves you you should in turn treat others with love: share, work hard, help the poor, minister to the sick, offer hospitality to all, worship God as if you meant it and quit wasting time deciding who is righteous and who is not.

 

[Daisy]

There is really no need for new translations, old translations, scholarship, history, or argument. The message Jesus preached is very simple: Because God loves you you should in turn treat others with love: share, work hard, help the poor, minister to the sick, offer hospitality to all, worship God as if you meant it and quit wasting time deciding who is righteous and who is not.

And you missed it altogether...Jesus main message is...

“For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, so that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life...The one who exercises faith in the Son has everlasting life; the one who disobeys the Son will not see life,+ but the wrath of God remains upon him." John 3:16,32

 

[Revelation]

And you missed it altogether...Jesus main message is...

“For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, so that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life...The one who exercises faith in the Son has everlasting life; the one who disobeys the Son will not see life,+ but the wrath of God remains upon him." John 3:16,32

amen, and i think we can do a whole thread on John 3. It is amazing some of the research out there on just that one chapter.



blessings all, find a shovel is you first step if your not planning on going up with us. Things are going to get hairy real fast; watch for August 1 and Labor Day and see what Red Flags develop on those days. It's all about the Orange Dark Maga.


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[weaver2]

And you missed it altogether...Jesus main message is...

“For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, so that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life...The one who exercises faith in the Son has everlasting life; the one who disobeys the Son will not see life,+ but the wrath of God remains upon him." John 3:16,32

Believe me or go to hell? That's a tyrant's threat not new message of life.

 

[Daisy]

Believe me or go to hell? That's a tyrant's threat not new message of life.

No, believe me or cease to exist, which we're all gonna do anyway...our only hope of living again is through the resurrection, when we put our faith in Jesus' ransom sacrifice...

 

[LittleNipper]

Believe me or go to hell? That's a tyrant's threat not new message of life.

The point is to trust in CHRIST or be forever separated from the FATHER, SON and HOLY SPIRIT.

 

[Parker_Chess]

There are inconsistencies in the New World translation that prove theological biases. It's why all other Christians discount the translation. And it's not just because they dislike the Jehovah's Witnesses teachings.

It's also the major reason I prefer the KJV over modern Bible translations. Because it was produced before denominationalism.

The real way to understand the Bible is to learn ancient Greek and read directly from the Septuagint and the Byzantine Texts. That'll give you the most reliable understanding of the scriptures.

 

[Alter2Ego]

Please give us the names of the NWT bible translators so we can research those NWT translators credibility. - Thanks in advance -

Get it from Bruce Metzger. Oh, wait! He's dead; isn't he? You can try King Saul's attempt at getting info from dead Samuel.

Leviticus 19:31​

“‘Do not turn to the spirit mediums, and do not consult fortune-tellers so as to become unclean by them. I am Jehovah your God.

1 Samuel 28:6​

Although Saul would inquire of Jehovah, Jehovah never answered him, either in dreams or by the Uʹrim or through the prophets.

1 Samuel 28:7​

Finally Saul said to his servants: “Find me a woman who is a spirit medium, and I will go and consult her.” His servants replied: “Look! There is a woman who is a spirit medium in En-dor.”

1 Samuel 28:8​

So Saul disguised himself and put on other garments and went to the woman by night with two of his men. He said: “Use divination, please, by acting as a spirit medium, and bring up for me the one whom I designate to you.”

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1 Samuel 28:11​

At this the woman said: “Whom should I bring up for you?” He replied: “Bring up Samuel for me.”

1 Samuel 28:12​

When the woman saw “Samuel,” she cried out at the top of her voice and said to Saul: “Why did you trick me? You are Saul!”

1 Samuel 28:13​

The king said to her: “Do not be afraid, but what do you see?” The woman replied to Saul: “I see one like a god coming up out of the earth.”

1 Samuel 28:14​

At once he asked her: “What does he look like?” to which she said: “It is an old man coming up, and he is clothed in a sleeveless coat.” At that Saul realized that it was “Samuel,” and he bowed low with his face to the ground and prostrated himself.

1 Samuel 28:15​

Then “Samuel” said to Saul: “Why have you disturbed me by having me brought up?” Saul replied: “I am in great trouble. The Phi·lisʹtines are fighting against me, and God has departed from me and no longer answers me, either through the prophets or in dreams; so that is why I am calling on you to let me know what I should do.”

1 Samuel 28:16​

And “Samuel” said: “Why do you inquire of me now that Jehovah has departed from you and has become your adversary?

1 Samuel 28:17​

Jehovah will do for himself what he foretold through me: Jehovah will rip the kingdom out of your hands and give it to one of your fellow men, David.

1 Samuel 28:18​

Because you did not obey the voice of Jehovah and you did not execute his burning anger against the A·malʹek·ites, that is why Jehovah is doing this to you this day.

1 Samuel 28:19​

Jehovah will also give both Israel and you into the hand of the Phi·lisʹtines, and tomorrow you and your sons will be with me. Jehovah will also give the army of Israel into the hands of the Phi·lisʹtines.”

 

[Logician Man]

Get it from Bruce Metzger. Oh, wait! He's dead; isn't he? You can try King Saul's attempt at getting info from dead Samuel.

Leviticus 19:31​

“‘Do not turn to the spirit mediums, and do not consult fortune-tellers so as to become unclean by them. I am Jehovah your God.

1 Samuel 28:6​

Although Saul would inquire of Jehovah, Jehovah never answered him, either in dreams or by the Uʹrim or through the prophets.

1 Samuel 28:7​

Finally Saul said to his servants: “Find me a woman who is a spirit medium, and I will go and consult her.” His servants replied: “Look! There is a woman who is a spirit medium in En-dor.”

1 Samuel 28:8​

So Saul disguised himself and put on other garments and went to the woman by night with two of his men. He said: “Use divination, please, by acting as a spirit medium, and bring up for me the one whom I designate to you.”

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1 Samuel 28:11​

At this the woman said: “Whom should I bring up for you?” He replied: “Bring up Samuel for me.”

1 Samuel 28:12​

When the woman saw “Samuel,” she cried out at the top of her voice and said to Saul: “Why did you trick me? You are Saul!”

1 Samuel 28:13​

The king said to her: “Do not be afraid, but what do you see?” The woman replied to Saul: “I see one like a god coming up out of the earth.”

1 Samuel 28:14​

At once he asked her: “What does he look like?” to which she said: “It is an old man coming up, and he is clothed in a sleeveless coat.” At that Saul realized that it was “Samuel,” and he bowed low with his face to the ground and prostrated himself.

1 Samuel 28:15​

Then “Samuel” said to Saul: “Why have you disturbed me by having me brought up?” Saul replied: “I am in great trouble. The Phi·lisʹtines are fighting against me, and God has departed from me and no longer answers me, either through the prophets or in dreams; so that is why I am calling on you to let me know what I should do.”

1 Samuel 28:16​

And “Samuel” said: “Why do you inquire of me now that Jehovah has departed from you and has become your adversary?

1 Samuel 28:17​

Jehovah will do for himself what he foretold through me: Jehovah will rip the kingdom out of your hands and give it to one of your fellow men, David.

1 Samuel 28:18​

Because you did not obey the voice of Jehovah and you did not execute his burning anger against the A·malʹek·ites, that is why Jehovah is doing this to you this day.

1 Samuel 28:19​

Jehovah will also give both Israel and you into the hand of the Phi·lisʹtines, and tomorrow you and your sons will be with me. Jehovah will also give the army of Israel into the hands of the Phi·lisʹtines.”

Please give us the names of the NWT bible translators so we can research those NWT translators credibility. - Thanks in advance -

 

[Alter2Ego]

There is really no need for new translations, old translations, scholarship, history, or argument. The message Jesus preached is very simple: Because God loves you you should in turn treat others with love: share, work hard, help the poor, minister to the sick, offer hospitality to all, worship God as if you meant it and quit wasting time deciding who is righteous and who is not.

Wrong. Many of the existing Bibles were translated by Trinitarians who deliberately inserted language (or left out language in some instances) so that it would appear that the Bible supports their various false traditions, particularly the false Trinity doctrine.

The New World Translation aka NWT published by Jehovah's Witnesses provides modern English language that enables readers to get the correct understanding of what they're reading. Not only that, the NWT restored the personal name of the Abrahamic God--JEHOVAH--at the almost 7,000 places where the Tetragrammaton originally appeared. Other Bibles made a point of removing the Divine name and replacing it with the titles Lord or God, sometimes in all caps.

 

[reflechissez]

No, believe me or cease to exist, which we're all gonna do anyway...our only hope of living again is through the resurrection, when we put our faith in Jesus' ransom sacrifice...

Why do we need to live again?

 

[Alter2Ego]

There are inconsistencies in the New World translation that prove theological biases. It's why all other Christians discount the translation. And it's not just because they dislike the Jehovah's Witnesses teachings.

It's also the major reason I prefer the KJV over modern Bible translations. Because it was produced before denominationalism.

The real way to understand the Bible is to learn ancient Greek and read directly from the Septuagint and the Byzantine Texts. That'll give you the most reliable understanding of the scriptures.

None of which you can prove. You are simply repeating what you read at the websites of the usual Jehovah's Witnesses haters.

Besides, why should anything about any Bible matter to you in light of the fact you started a thread in which you said Christians don't need to read the Bible. According to that thread, Christians should simply follow what their religious "leaders" tell them the Bible says. It doesn't matter if the religious "leaders" are lying through their teeth about what the Bible actually says.

Thread 'Reading the Bible is Not Necessary for Christians'

Jul 2, 2025

The Bible is beneficial but not necessary for Christians to read.

Why? You should attend Church and hear the holy gospel read during the service or liturgy. Furthermore, the early Christians didn't all have their own pocket Bible to read at home. Not only that but many were illiterate! They learned through listening to the word.

Another point is that reading the Bible often leads to pride and belief that you know more than Church authorities about the faith. This has led to schismatic groups throughout the ages. The most egregious ones came in the 19th and 20th centuries with Mormonism...

• Parker_Chess
• Replies: 87
• Forum: Beliefs and Skepticism

 

[Alter2Ego]

Please give us the names of the NWT bible translators so we can research those NWT translators credibility. - Thanks in advance -

I just told you where to get it. If you ask me again, I will send you to my "Ignore" list where you will stay forever. I kid you not.

Be thankful for Daisy. She has the patience. I have no tolerance for people who demonstrate trolling behavior.

 

[Logician Man]

I just told you where to get it. If you ask me again, I will send you to my "Ignore" list where you will stay forever. I kid you not.

Please give us the names of the NWT bible translators so we can research those NWT translators credibility. - Thanks in advance -

 

[Alter2Ego]

Please give us the names of the NWT bible translators so we can research those NWT translators credibility. - Thanks in advance -

Onto my Ignore List you go. From now on, everything you post anywhere on this website will be invisible to me.

Goodbye forever.

 

[Logician Man]

Onto my Ignore List you go. From now on, everything you post anywhere on this website will be invisible to me.

Goodbye forever.

 

[weaver2]

Wrong. Many of the existing Bibles were translated by Trinitarians who deliberately inserted language (or left out language in some instances) so that it would appear that the Bible supports their various false traditions, particularly the false Trinity doctrine.

The New World Translation aka NWT published by Jehovah's Witnesses provides modern English language that enables readers to get the correct understanding of what they're reading. Not only that, the NWT restored the personal name of the Abrahamic God--JEHOVAH--at the almost 7,000 places where the Tetragrammaton originally appeared. Other Bibles made a point of removing the Divine name and replacing it with the titles Lord or God, sometimes in all caps.

So it's impossible to love, share, help the poor and the sick, worship sincerely, and mind your own business unless you have a bible uncontaminated by trinitarians (oooo bad, bad trinitarians inserting things where they shouldn't be) and reinsert old words in old writing and preciously pretend you know why you are using them.

OK, now that you've got the RIGHT translation, the one that suits you best, now can you love, share, help, worship and mind your own business like Jesus said.

 

[Daisy]

Oh ye of little knowledge...

Bible translation projects like the New King James Version (NKJV) and the New American Standard Bible (NASB) are collaborative efforts involving teams of scholars and experts. Instead of individual translators being prominently named, the work is typically attributed to the translation committee or the sponsoring organization, such as the Lockman Foundation for the NASB and Thomas Nelson Publishers for the NKJV. This practice is common in large-scale translation projects where the goal is to produce a scholarly, accurate translation reflecting the consensus of a diverse group of experts, rather than the interpretive decisions of a single individual.

Reasons for this practice

Focus on the text: Anonymity helps to direct the reader's attention to the translated text itself, rather than to the individuals who produced it. The emphasis is placed on the faithfulness of the translation to the original Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek texts, and on the authority of the Word of God.

Scholarly collaboration: Bible translation is a complex undertaking, requiring expertise in ancient languages, textual criticism, and theological understanding. A team approach allows for checks and balances, ensuring a more accurate and nuanced translation.

Preventing personal bias: While each translator brings their own background and understanding, the collective effort aims to minimize the impact of individual biases and to arrive at a more balanced representation of the biblical text.

Historical precedent: Many ancient texts, including some books of the Hebrew Bible and the Gospels, were originally anonymous or had authorship attributed later by tradition. This practice may reflect a historical precedent for prioritizing the message over the messenger.

While the individual translators of the NKJV and NASB may not be widely known, the prefaces and background materials published by the respective organizations often provide information about the translation principles and methodologies employed. For instance, the NASB is known for its formal equivalence (or word-for-word) approach, according to the Lockman Foundation. The NKJV also follows a literal approach, aiming to maintain the literary quality and flow of the King James Version while updating the language. This focus on the methodology and principles further reinforces the idea that the translation is a product of scholarly endeavor rather than a reflection of individual personalities.
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[Alter2Ego]

There is really no need for new translations, old translations, scholarship, history, or argument. The message Jesus preached is very simple: Because God loves you you should in turn treat others with love: share, work hard, help the poor, minister to the sick, offer hospitality to all, worship God as if you meant it and quit wasting time deciding who is righteous and who is not.

Wrong. Many of the existing Bibles were translated by Trinitarians who deliberately inserted language (or left out language in some instances) so that it would appear that the Bible supports their various false traditions, particularly the false Trinity doctrine.

The New World Translation aka NWT published by Jehovah's Witnesses provides modern English language that enables readers to get the correct understanding of what they're reading. Not only that, the NWT restored the personal name of the Abrahamic God--JEHOVAH--at the almost 7,000 places where the Tetragrammaton originally appeared. Other Bibles made a point of removing the Divine name and replacing it with the titles Lord or God, sometimes in all caps.

So it's impossible to love, share, help the poor and the sick, worship sincerely, and mind your own business unless you have a bible uncontaminated by trinitarians (oooo bad, bad trinitarians inserting things where they shouldn't be) and reinsert old words in old writing and preciously pretend you know why you are using them.

OK, now that you've got the RIGHT translation, the one that suits you best, now can you love, share, help, worship and mind your own business like Jesus said.

Now you're changing the goal post, weaver2. I responded to what you said at Post 27 by explaining why we need a correct translation of the Judeo-Christian Bible.

Nobody said anything about people not being able to show love towards their fellow humans when they don't have a Bible that is uncontaminated by Trinitarians.

FYI: A large percentage of humanity is not Christian and does not even follow the Judeo-Christian Bible. In spite of that, many of them are still loving towards others and are willing to help strangers that are poor and sick. Why? Because Jehovah endowed humans with a conscience.

Romans 2:14​

For when people of the nations, who do not have law, do by nature the things of the law, these people, although not having law, are a law to themselves.

Romans 2:15​

They are the very ones who demonstrate the matter of the law to be written in their hearts, while their conscience is bearing witness with them, and by their own thoughts they are being accused or even excused.

 

[weaver2]

Now you're changing the goal post, weaver2. I responded to what you said at Post 27 by explaining why we need a correct translation of the Judeo-Christian Bible.

The goal posts are the same. New translations are not necessary to the basic teachings of Jesus.

Nobody said anything about people not being able to show love towards their fellow humans when they don't have a Bible that is uncontaminated by Trinitarians.

Jesus' message is not changed by trinitarian insertions, the correct use and spelling of Yahweh or Jehovah, the movement of a comma, or a warping of a translation to match a religion.

FYI: A large percentage of humanity is not Christian and does not even follow the Judeo-Christian Bible. In spite of that, many of them are still loving towards others and are willing to help strangers that are poor and sick. Why? Because Jehovah endowed humans with a conscience.

Romans 2:14​

For when people of the nations, who do not have law, do by nature the things of the law, these people, although not having law, are a law to themselves.

Romans 2:15​

They are the very ones who demonstrate the matter of the law to be written in their hearts, while their conscience is bearing witness with them, and by their own thoughts they are being accused or even excused.

So if it doesn't matter, quit virtue signaling about your JW translation. Work on loving , sharing, caring, and minding your own business.

 

[Alter2Ego]

The goal posts are the same. New translations are not necessary to the basic teachings of Jesus.

No, the goal post is not the same. You changed it when claimed that I said people can't do good towards others when their Bibles are tainted by trinitarian inserts. In reality, as I pointed out, even non-Christians are capable of doing good to strangers; therefore, the Bible and Jesus' message plays no role in their lives.

POST 27:

There is really no need for new translations, old translations, scholarship, history, or argument. The message Jesus preached is very simple: Because God loves you you should in turn treat others with love: share, work hard, help the poor, minister to the sick, offer hospitality to all, worship God as if you meant it and quit wasting time deciding who is righteous and who is not.

POST 36:

Wrong. Many of the existing Bibles were translated by Trinitarians who deliberately inserted language (or left out language in some instances) so that it would appear that the Bible supports their various false traditions, particularly the false Trinity doctrine.

The New World Translation aka NWT published by Jehovah's Witnesses provides modern English language that enables readers to get the correct understanding of what they're reading. Not only that, the NWT restored the personal name of the Abrahamic God--JEHOVAH--at the almost 7,000 places where the Tetragrammaton originally appeared. Other Bibles made a point of removing the Divine name and replacing it with the titles Lord or God, sometimes in all caps.

POST 43:

So it's impossible to love, share, help the poor and the sick, worship sincerely, and mind your own business unless you have a bible uncontaminated by trinitarians (oooo bad, bad trinitarians inserting things where they shouldn't be) and reinsert old words in old writing and preciously pretend you know why you are using them.

OK, now that you've got the RIGHT translation, the one that suits you best, now can you love, share, help, worship and mind your own business like Jesus said.

 

[Alter2Ego]

The goal posts are the same. New translations are not necessary to the basic teachings of Jesus.

Jesus' message is not changed by trinitarian insertions, the correct use and spelling of Yahweh or Jehovah, the movement of a comma, or a warping of a translation to match a religion.

So if it doesn't matter, quit virtue signaling about your JW translation. Work on loving , sharing, caring, and minding your own business.

Wrong again. Jesus' message changed with trinitarian insertions. Trinitarians believe Jesus is the same god as Jehovah the Father, and so they react differently to his, as you put it, "simple instructions." For example, notice the excerpt below from a conversation Jesus and members of the Pharisees (Jewish religious leaders) during his time on earth in the 1st Century C.E.

Matthew 22:34​

After the Pharisees heard that he [Jesus] had silenced the Sadducees, they came together in one group.

Matthew 22:35​

And one of them, versed in the Law, tested him by asking:

Matthew 22:36​

“Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”

Matthew 22:37​

He [Jesus] said to him: “‘You must love Jehovah your God with your whole heart and with your whole soul and with your whole mind.’

Matthew 22:38​

This is the greatest and first commandment.


Well, guess what? That supposedly "simple instruction" is ignored by just about every member of Christendom. Not only do they not acknowledge Jehovah the Father, they worship Jesus instead as god. All you ever get from them is "Thank you, Jesus." It is never "Thank you, Jehovah." Don't believe me? Talk to any Trinitarian and listen carefully to their responses regarding who they give thanks to.

 

[Logician Man]

The Da Vinci Code - Jehovah's Witnesses, Adventists and …​

Watchtower, Adventists & Freemasonry​

Many of the beliefs and symbols included in Watchtower publications during the leadership of Russell are what Jehovah's Witnesses now claim to be of pagan and even occult background.

If you enjoyed The Da Vinci Code by Dan Brown and are interested in the development of modern religion you will be intrigued by this section. A number of the symbols and teachings discussed by Brown as having origins with the Knights Templar, Freemasons and Illuminati, and tracing back to the Egyptians, have been used by Mormons, Christian Science and Russell's Watch Tower Bible Students.

The terms Watch Tower, Golden Age, Jehovah, New World Order, the symbols of the all-seeing-eye, winged sun disk, two columns, pyramids and Russell's Zionist stance are part of Freemasonry.

A great deal of discussion has centred on whether Russell, the founder of the Watch Tower Society, had connections with Freemasons, due to the many Masonic symbols introduced under his leadership. The evidence is not conclusive that Russell adopted these beliefs from Freemasons, and it is probable that he took these beliefs and symbols from Second Adventists.

Watchtower claims it was chosen as God's sole representative for being the only clean organisation in 1919. Inclusion of pagan symbols in its worship until the 1930's raises the question as to why God directed, or even allowed, symbols of this kind to identify his people, even well after the claimed cleansing of his spiritual temple in 1919.

Watch Tower​

The term Watchtower and Watch Tower Society, which identify the organisation behind Jehovah's Witnesses and their magazine, are a namesake from the Adventist Movement. The Proclaimers book admits in a footnote;

"The expression ‘Watch Tower’ is not unique to Russell’s writings or to Jehovah’s Witnesses. George Storrs published a book in the 1850’s called The Watch Tower: Or, Man in Death; and the Hope for a Future Life. The name was also incorporated in the title of various religious periodicals." Jehovah's Witnesses - Proclaimers of God's Kingdom p.48

Zionism​

Watchtower describes the "back to Palestine" movement as directed by the "spirit of Jehovah's archfoe, Satan." This is astonishing, as for over 50 years Watchtower was supportive of the Zionist movement.

 

[Alter2Ego]

FYI: A large percentage of humanity is not Christian and does not even follow the Judeo-Christian Bible. In spite of that, many of them are still loving towards others and are willing to help strangers that are poor and sick. Why? Because Jehovah endowed humans with a conscience.

Romans 2:14​

For when people of the nations, who do not have law, do by nature the things of the law, these people, although not having law, are a law to themselves.

Romans 2:15​

They are the very ones who demonstrate the matter of the law to be written in their hearts, while their conscience is bearing witness with them, and by their own thoughts they are being accused or even excused.

So if it doesn't matter, quit virtue signaling about your JW translation. Work on loving , sharing, caring, and minding your own business..

It matters for those who claim they are followers of Christ. Why? Because they are motivated by their religious beliefs. People's religious beliefs often override their conscience.

For example, the European scramble for Africa was perpetrated by so called Christians who managed to convince themselves that the Bible gave them permission to brutalize non-Christians, particularly Black people. They committed more brutality against other humans than even the most illiterate people that never had access to a Bible. That's why it's important to have a good translation of the Bible where one can read and understand what God requires of those calling themselves Christians.

BTW: If you can't cope with my "virtue signaling" regarding the New World Translation, you know what to do: Keep moving. I don't need your company. Trust me on that.