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New Development, Mueller's Trump/Russian Conspiracy Theory Investigation, 5-7-2020

And you prove that there are people gullible enough to believe the most absurd conspiracy theories.

Speaking of Conspiracy Theories - Mods, would you please move this thread to the Conspiracy Theories sub-forum where it belongs? Thanks.

Dummass democrat delusions: Trump collusion with Russians is not a conspiracy theory. Suggestions that further investigation into the Seth Rich murder may turn up criminals in unexpected places is a conspiracy theory.
 
Nah, that’s not at all what it means.

“A Manhattan federal court on Friday reinstated a lawsuit against Fox News by the family of Seth Rich, meaning the family can sue the network for publishing a story alleging that the DNC staffer may have been murdered as part of a conspiracy.

Rich's family in 2018 launched a lawsuit against Fox News for a May 2017 article alleging that Rich may have murdered for the leak of thousands of DNC emails to WikiLeaks.

Police in Washington DC say that Rich's death in July 2016 was the result of a botched robbery, but that has not stopped an elaborate and groundless right-wing conspiracy emerging alleging he was killed as retribution for leaking the emails.”

“Fox News eventually retracted the story after widespread criticism a week after its publication, but it had been pushed by network hosts including Sean Hannity”
Seth Rich family'''s lawsuit against Fox News reinstated in court ruling - Business Insider

None of your sideshow distraction does anything to refute the evidence which has recently been uncovered in the FBI and the NSA, exposing their knowledge of Seth Rich's involvement with Wikileaks.
 
Dummass democrat delusions: Trump collusion with Russians is not a conspiracy theory. Suggestions that further investigation into the Seth Rich murder may turn up criminals in unexpected places is a conspiracy theory.
Stick to one ridiculous claim at a time, marke.

Rich’s murder was thoroughly investigated. No “deep state” conspiracy was involved. Fox News was forced to retract their bogus claims and put a muzzle on Hannity.

None of your sideshow distraction does anything to refute the evidence which has recently been uncovered in the FBI and the NSA, exposing their knowledge of Seth Rich's involvement with Wikileaks.
There is no “evidence”. Only an assertion of “evidence”.
 
Latest report from those responsible for murdering Seth Rich:

'LIES! LIES! LIES! Rich was not murdered. Nobody can prove that. Rumors that the NSA has evidence that Rich was in contact with Wikileaks cannot be proven. It is all a conspiracy theory invented by Russian agents out to slander the democrat party before the 2020 election. Those conspiracy theorists should be locked up for lying.'



Excellent source material.

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The Gateway Pundit has the journalism standards of the National Enquirer and isn't is worthy to be called well-written fiction. You don't understand the core idea that truth isn't measured by the idea that you agree with it because you are driven entirely by your emotions. That is an example of a confirmation bias that you have yet to understand and break away from.

What Is Confirmation Bias? | Psychology Today
 
This **** still. Even Hannity has moved on from this stupidity.

Ya we can let that go. what we cannot let go is what the DNC and Obama folks tried to pull off with FISA warrants to spy, and the collusion bs

“FBI director admits: Yes, surveillance of Carter Page was illegal”
FBI director admits: Yes, surveillance of Carter Page was illegal
“FISA court review order leaves out key FBI players implicated in Horowitz report”
“FBI director admits: Yes, surveillance of Carter Page was illegal”
FBI director admits: Yes, surveillance of Carter Page was illegal
“The Damning Inspector General’s Report”
Michael Horowitz Inspector General Report Exposes Justice Department Misdeeds and Deception | National Review
“FBI deliberately hid Carter Page's patriotic role as CIA asset, IG report shows”
“During the drafting of FISA warrants in 2016 and 2017, the CIA confirmed to the FBI that Mr. Page, a Naval Academy graduate and energy investor who joined the Trump campaign as an adviser, served as an informant from 2008 to 2013.
That biographical fact never made it into any affidavit. In 2017, the CIA sent an email to the FBI restating that Mr. Page had been an asset. Mr. Clinesmith, who is not named in the inspector general’s report, altered the email to say Mr. Page was not an asset.”
Kevin Clinesmith, FBI attorney, hid Carter Page CIA informant role, IG report shows - Washington Times
“‘Corroboration Zero’: An Inspector General’s Report Reveals the Steele Dossier Was Always a Joke”
Horowitz Report Reveals the Steele Dossier Was Always a Joke - Rolling Stone
“Horowitz describes at great length an FBI whose “serious” procedural problems and omissions of “significant information” in pursuit of surveillance authority all fell in the direction of expanding the unprecedented investigation of a presidential candidate (later, a president).
Officials on the “Crossfire Hurricane” Trump-Russia investigators went to extraordinary, almost comical lengths to seek surveillance authority of figures like Trump aide Carter Page. In one episode, an FBI attorney inserted the words “not a source” in an email he’d received from another government agency. This disguised the fact that Page had been an informant for that agency and had dutifully told the government in real time about being approached by Russian intelligence. The attorney then passed on the email to an FBI supervisory special agent, who signed a FISA warrant application on Page that held those Russian contacts against Page, without disclosing his informant role.”
The so-called “Steele dossier” was, actually, crucial to the FBI’s decision to seek secret surveillance of Page.
“Press figures have derided the idea that Steele was crucial to the FISA application, with some insisting it was only a “small part” of the application. Horowitz is clear:
We determined that the Crossfire Hurricane team’s receipt of Steele’s election reporting on September 19, 2016 played a central and essential role in the FBI’s and Department’s decision to seek the FISA order. “
“Horowitz ratifies the oft-denounced “Nunes memo.”
“As noted, Horowitz establishes that the Steele report was crucial to the FISA process, even using the same language Nunes used (“essential”). He also confirms the Nunes assertion that the FBI double-dipped in citing both Steele and a September 23, 2016 Yahoo! news story using Steele as an unnamed source. Horowitz listed the idea that Steele did not directly provide information to the press as one of seven significant “inaccuracies or omissions” in the first FISA application.”
“The “Steele dossier” was “Internet rumor,” and corroboration for the pee tape story was “zero.””
“The Steele report reads like a pile of rumors surrounded by public information pulled off the Internet, and the Horowitz report does nothing to dispel this notion.
“At the time the FBI submitted its first FISA application, Horowitz writes, it had “corroborated limited information in Steele’s election reporting, and most of that was publicly available information.” Horowitz says of Steele’s reports: “The CIA viewed it as ‘internet rumor.’”
Worse (and this part of the story should be tattooed on the heads of Russia truthers), the FBI’s interviews of Steele’s sources revealed Steele embellished the most explosive parts of his report.”
Horowitz Report Reveals the Steele Dossier Was Always a Joke - Rolling Stone
 
Stick to one ridiculous claim at a time, marke.

Rich’s murder was thoroughly investigated. No “deep state” conspiracy was involved. Fox News was forced to retract their bogus claims and put a muzzle on Hannity.


There is no “evidence”. Only an assertion of “evidence”.

In spite of all your reasons why we should never look any further into the unsolved Seth Rich murder, millions of Americans are just now finding out that the FBI has been hiding evidence that it knew Rich had been in communication with Wikileaks just before his murder, and that Mueller had information that the NSA had recording of those communications. Since the "thorough investigation into the Rich murder" you talk of claimed Rich had never communicated with Wikileaks, I believe this whole Rich murder mystery needs further investigation.
 
In spite of all your reasons why we should never look any further into the unsolved Seth Rich murder, millions of Americans are just now finding out that the FBI has been hiding evidence that it knew Rich had been in communication with Wikileaks just before his murder, and that Mueller had information that the NSA had recording of those communications. Since the "thorough investigation into the Rich murder" you talk of claimed Rich had never communicated with Wikileaks, I believe this whole Rich murder mystery needs further investigation.
Like a true conspiracy enthusiast, you accept as fact what has only been hypothesized by other conspiracy enthusiasts. No problem if that’s what floats your boat, but conspiracy theories belong in the appropriate sub-forum.
 
Stick to one ridiculous claim at a time, marke.

Rich’s murder was thoroughly investigated. No “deep state” conspiracy was involved. Fox News was forced to retract their bogus claims and put a muzzle on Hannity.


There is no “evidence”. Only an assertion of “evidence”.

What you mean to say is that most Americans are still unaware that the FBI and the NSA have evidence of Seth Rich communicating with Wikileaks in the days before his murder.
 
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The Gateway Pundit has the journalism standards of the National Enquirer and isn't is worthy to be called well-written fiction. You don't understand the core idea that truth isn't measured by the idea that you agree with it because you are driven entirely by your emotions. That is an example of a confirmation bias that you have yet to understand and break away from.

What Is Confirmation Bias? | Psychology Today

Nobody should broadcast that they refuse to believe any facts they were not already aware of. Here is more evidence:

Former NSA experts say it wasn’t a hack at all, but a leak—an inside job by someone with access to the DNC’s system.

A New Report Raises Big Questions About Last Year’s DNC Hack | The Nation
 
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Like a true conspiracy enthusiast, you accept as fact what has only been hypothesized by other conspiracy enthusiasts. No problem if that’s what floats your boat, but conspiracy theories belong in the appropriate sub-forum.

Crooks and their supporters call evidence of their criminal activities "conspiracy theories" in order to try to stymie investigations into the crimes. Real investigators and intelligent, non-gullible people don't buy that self-serving lying crap.
 
What you mean to say is that most Americans are still unaware that the FBI and the NSA have evidence of Seth Rich communicating with Wikileaks in the days before his murder.
Don’t push your crazy ass thinking off on me.
 
Don’t push your crazy ass thinking off on me.

The Obama team of crack investigators has searched for and found no evidence of criminal activity in any of Obama's transparent, holy, sycophant staff members, government workers, and supporters. Leading the Obama crack team of investigators was Mickey Mouse Herr Comey, Mickey Mouse Herr Mueller, and Mickey Mouse Herr Rosenstein.

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Crooks and their supporters call evidence of their criminal activities "conspiracy theories" in order to try to stymie investigations into the crimes. Real investigators and intelligent, non-gullible people don't buy that self-serving lying crap.
Opinion noted and filed appropriately.
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