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Networks of 7,000 universities declare climate emergency

eman623 said:
I don't know about the UK or Catholic Church, but I live in San Jose which is in Santa Clara County so I can speak with some authority here. San Jose is by far the biggest city in Santa Clara and of the 1.7 million in Santa Clara County a little over a million live in San Jose. The link in the OP lists the following...,

Those are the entire population totals for the overlapping jurisdictions, so yeah. I'm being counted twice. Once for living in San Jose and again for living in Santa Clara Cty.
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This link lists the population of Santa Clara County at $1,933,383. Maybe you're not being counted at all.

http://worldpopulationreview.com/us-counties/ca/santa-clara-county-population/
 
Media_Truth said:
This link lists the population of Santa Clara County at $1,933,383. Maybe you're not being counted at all.

http://worldpopulationreview.com/us-counties/ca/santa-clara-county-population/
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You can also look at Spain and Austria. There they both present the total population of the country because the parliament have declared a climate emergency. As well as the population of local areas but the total is not more than the national population. Tried to do a count in Excel to see if it the same for different layers of local areas but didn't get it work right away and not something I want to spend time figuring out.
 
Amazing, universities declare climate emergency, HALF! that I knew later were after EPA / EnvironMEN

Bergslagstroll said:
Network with more than 7 000 universities and colleges . . . climate crisis.

. . . declared a climate emergency.
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OH a thunderbolt out of the blue the sky is falling now why oh why are we not all just suddenly startled by this news flash press release media blitz eh?!?!? Because there isn't one, yes come in out of the cold when you tire of this. *yawn*

As I was saying in the title- fully half that I knew at one time were going for some environMENTAL 0_o position. Its like tweaker data omitting NASA and NOAA , nobody takes them seriously anymore.

THE COLLEGE PROFS ARE HELPING THE bleeep with clever lobbying for their future jobs is all.
 
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We need a "Manhattan Project" for fusion (an energy with a future)!
 
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danielpalos said:
We need a "Manhattan Project" for fusion (an energy with a future)!
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Speaking as someone who was involved in plasma confinement experiments some years ago, I'd say we'd be better off implementing a "Manhattan Project" for renewables and associated infrastructure/storage. At least they have a track record of generating energy; fusion is currently still pie in the sky and is nowhere near commercialisation. We need to be phasing out fossil fuels now, not at some indeterminate date in the future.
 
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Kid_DwnThStreet said:
OH a thunderbolt out of the blue the sky is falling now why oh why are we not all just suddenly startled by this news flash press release media blitz eh?!?!? Because there isn't one, yes come in out of the cold when you tire of this. *yawn*

As I was saying in the title- fully half that I knew at one time were going for some environMENTAL 0_o position. Its like tweaker data omitting NASA and NOAA , nobody takes them seriously anymore.

THE COLLEGE PROFS ARE HELPING THE bleeep with clever lobbying for their future jobs is all.
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I think your Cyrillic to English translator isn’t working right.
 
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Surface Detail said:
Speaking as someone who was involved in plasma confinement experiments some years ago, I'd say we'd be better off implementing a "Manhattan Project" for renewables and associated infrastructure/storage. At least they have a track record of generating energy; fusion is currently still pie in the sky and is nowhere near commercialisation. We need to be phasing out fossil fuels now, not at some indeterminate date in the future.
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All it takes is capital, under capitalism.

However, there have also been advances in hydrogen energy technologies.

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Its their religion, keep up the good fight. Job security. Well- until the sun starts to calm in 2020 and the cold seasons start.

No no reply necessary from the Cryllic or whatever the special kids club kid was trying to say. Laterzzzz its been fun.
 
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Kid_DwnThStreet said:
Its their religion, keep up the good fight. Job security. Well- until the sun starts to calm in 2020 and the cold seasons start.

No no reply necessary from the Cryllic or whatever the special kids club kid was trying to say. Laterzzzz its been fun.
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That's what the denier's scientists from the oil industry payroll were saying in 2009. How'd that work out?

2018GlobalTempReview_10_Warmest_years.webp
 
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danielpalos said:
All it takes is capital, under capitalism.

However, there have also been advances in hydrogen energy technologies.

YouTube
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Not all problems can be solved by simply throwing money at them. Or, indeed, are worth solving by throwing money at them, especially if that money can be better used elsewhere.

And fuel cells (the subject of your video) have nothing whatsoever to do with fusion.
 
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Surface Detail said:
Not all problems can be solved by simply throwing money at them. Or, indeed, are worth solving by throwing money at them, especially if that money can be better used elsewhere.

And fuel cells (the subject of your video) have nothing whatsoever to do with fusion.
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Under capitalism? What capital problems cannot be solved by merely, concentrating wealth to resolve them?

No, but that discovery in how to generate fuel less expensively, could be a game changer in the meantime for fuel cell technologies.
 
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Surface Detail said:
We need to be phasing out fossil fuels now, not at some indeterminate date in the future.
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The market can phase out fossil fuels if there were alternatives with the same efficiency, but there arent any. Green tech isnt the answer.
 
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PoS said:
The market can phase out fossil fuels if there were alternatives with the same efficiency, but there arent any. Green tech isnt the answer.
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It's happening now. Petro-Canada is advertising that you can drive across Canada, a biggish country, in an electric car going from charger to charger at their gas stations.
Small steps, but that's how "phasing" works.
 
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Grand Mal said:
It's happening now. Petro-Canada is advertising that you can drive across Canada, a biggish country, in an electric car going from charger to charger at their gas stations.
Small steps, but that's how "phasing" works.
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Advertising is just... advertising. Let me know if and when electric cars actually grabs 50% of market share, then I'll take it seriously.
 
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PoS said:
The market can phase out fossil fuels if there were alternatives with the same efficiency, but there arent any. Green tech isnt the answer.
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You say that with such glee. It’s not that you are just stating a fact. You don’t WANT anything to be better. Ever. You would be upset if it ever did.

Why? That’s just so odd.
 
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PoS said:
Advertising is just... advertising. Let me know if and when electric cars actually grabs 50% of market share, then I'll take it seriously.
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I don't know how old you are but I doubt I'll see that, 50% market share for electric vehicles. In North America, anyway. But I take it seriously now. Diesel hasn't got 50% market share either but you take it seriously.
 
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Renowned German Geologist Shocks Audience: “Climate Change Totally Exaggerated”…”Warming Least Of Our Problems”

By P Gosselin on 12. October 2019
It’s unusual to see rationality over climate change in the German media, but sometimes it manages to get through.
In April this year I missed an important podcast interview with one of the world’s most prominent Sahara Desert researchers, geologist Dr. Stefan Kröpelin, by the Düsseldorf-based German daily, Rheinische Post.

Image: University of Cologne
The two RP hosts conducting the interview seemed to expect Dr. Kröpelin would tell the audience how dire the consequences of man-made global warming are on the Sahara Desert and planet overall.
They didn’t get what they bargained for.
Warming does not lead to desertification
Instead, in the interview, Dr. Kröpelin rejected in very clear terms man’s major climatic impact and that global warming is only negative.
Kröpelin told listeners that history is very clear: When the globe is cold, the deserts expand. And when the globe is warm, deserts become greener and far more fruitful.
Kröpelin is a leading expert
Kröpelin has been studying the Sahara for over 40 years, spending weeks and months each year on site gathering data a reconstructing past climates. Nature described Kröpelin as “one of the most devoted Sahara explorers of our time.”
At about 9 minutes into the interview, he explains how the Sahara was massive in size during the last glacial period, and that about ten thousand years ago it greened up once temperatures shot up early in the Holocene.
When asked (10:15) if he worries that things in the Sahara “will get much worse” due to climate change, Kröpelin tells the host and audience: “First, that is a statement I 100% reject”, adding that localized desertification has more to do with the population growth at the edges of the desert and that the people who live there are cutting down trees and extracting water from the ground.
Rising precipitation, shrinking desert
Next (12:00), Kröpelin talks about the remote edges of the Sahara where few people live: “Here we signs that precipitation is increasing and that should the trend continue, the desert is going to shrink.” Similarly as it did at the end of the last glacial. “The Sahara changed from a desert to a savannah. These are not model simulations.” He says rather this is” based 100%” on real observations of a wide variety of proxy data taken throughout the region.

The greening of the Sahara “happened not because it got colder, but because it got warmer,” he said.
A third would become livable again
Kröpelin also shocks the host and audience, claiming that even if the climate models were true, which he says he doesn’t believe, “Maybe one third of the African continent will be a livable zone again. That would be an unbelievable advantage for the people in Sub-Saharan Africa. […] I dispute that over the last decades there’s been a climatically controlled increase of the desert.”
“Never been a stable climate”
On the subject of climate-induced human migration, Kröpelin says human migrations due to climate changes have always occurred. In the past sea level changes simply caused the people to step back or forwards a few meters. But today, the problem is that the built infrastructure is unable to move with the changes. “There’s never been a really stable climate.”
“What’s one meter from 4000?”
On sea level rise, Kröpelin plays down the changes that are occurring today, reminding us that the average depth of the ocean is some 4000 meters, noting. “What’s one meter from 4000 meters of sea depth?”
Climate change “totally exaggerated”
When asked about the climate protests now taking place (21:00), Kröpelin comments: “I would say that today’s handling of climate change is hysterical” and that “we should not be dramatizing.”
The University of Cologne expert geologist says that by only looking at the last few decades, “We can naturally create panic. But I find it totally exaggerated.”. . .

 
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ataraxia said:
You say that with such glee. It’s not that you are just stating a fact. You don’t WANT anything to be better. Ever. You would be upset if it ever did.

Why? That’s just so odd.
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What's odd is your strawman fallacy. What makes you think you know how I feel?

Grand Mal said:
I don't know how old you are but I doubt I'll see that, 50% market share for electric vehicles. In North America, anyway. But I take it seriously now. Diesel hasn't got 50% market share either but you take it seriously.
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Diesel is fossil fuel and in widespread use.
 
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Diversification in energy reclamation is always a Good idea.

and, it can make some projects more feasible, until fusion (an energy with a very bright future) comes online.

Developing hydrogen fuel cell technologies can only benefit any fuel intensive endeavors.

And, can always be a primary or backup energy source even if fusion comes online, depending on the application.
 
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PoS said:
What's odd is your strawman fallacy. What makes you think you know how I feel?


Diesel is fossil fuel and in widespread use.
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Yes it is. Fossil fuel. Is that why you take it seriously with less than 50% market share? No matter. Fossil fuels are on their last legs. If you have preteen children there might well be no fossil fuel consumer vehicles when they're my age. There's electric ships now and aircraft (a solar powered aircraft has circumnavigate the world) and the technology is only going to increase exponentially.
There's a reason why there's a shortage of refinery capacity. Refineries are very expensive to build and the companies have no confidence that the marketplace will repay that kind of investment.
 
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Grand Mal said:
Yes it is. Fossil fuel. Is that why you take it seriously with less than 50% market share? No matter. Fossil fuels are on their last legs. If you have preteen children there might well be no fossil fuel consumer vehicles when they're my age. There's electric ships now and aircraft (a solar powered aircraft has circumnavigate the world) and the technology is only going to increase exponentially.
There's a reason why there's a shortage of refinery capacity. Refineries are very expensive to build and the companies have no confidence that the marketplace will repay that kind of investment.
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Electric ships and aircraft? I'll believe it when it happens.
 
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