Whovian
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Should we go in and re edit the Mona Lisa?
non sequitur.
Should we go in and re edit the Mona Lisa?
Agreed. Sorry, I was mainly using your point to expand on my own.
Should we go in and re edit the Mona Lisa?
It's sad that mistakes made during the McCarthy Era still hold sway with some people. Who gives a **** if they forgot "under God"? The pledge of allegiance should be all encompassing and not include religion to begin with. It's a pledge to the country, not to religion.
This is the same on many networks. It's always a small percentage of people that call to complain about something whether it be this or something else that they found offensive. Sadly, rather than go through the potential legal problems, these cowardly networks crumble to the whims of the moral minority. When you look at the amount of people in their viewership vs. those who actually complained, they are definitely in the minority. Sadly, people don't have the willpower or common sense to turn the channel if they find something that offends them, and would rather call or write in and complain. It's impossible for any network to please everyone all of the time.
Here's the thing...
I don't really have a huge problem with the school children omitting 'Under God' themselves. That's on them (or the teachers or administrators in charge, more correctly).
However, I DO have a problem with a 'news' organization 'editing' it out.
Yes, especially since the Pledge of Allegiance was written by a Christian socialist.
And what religion is God?
Interesting phrase...Moral minority....So you are saying that the majority of people in this nation are without morals? Maybe that is our problem today.
j-mac
Yes, especially since the Pledge of Allegiance was written by a Christian socialist.
Why does it have anything to do with their teachers or admins?
...And why? SOMETHING has to be edited out. Even if it is NBC, it probably wasn't intentional. People are still way too afraid of angering the religious majority of this country to do something like that on purpose unless they pretty much have no viewers anyway. Why is "under god" more important than any other part of the Pledge? Why is it not allowed to be on the chopping block?
Why does it have anything to do with their teachers or admins?
...And why? SOMETHING has to be edited out. Even if it is NBC, it probably wasn't intentional. People are still way too afraid of angering the religious majority of this country to do something like that on purpose unless they pretty much have no viewers anyway. Why is "under god" more important than any other part of the Pledge? Why is it not allowed to be on the chopping block?
Interesting phrase...Moral minority....So you are saying that the majority of people in this nation are without morals? Maybe that is our problem today.
j-mac
Why omit ANY part of it? It takes like 30 seconds to say. It's not like it's a big time consumer.
It implies religion period. What about people who don't have religion in their lives? What about atheists? Should they be excluded just so a few deists that actually care enough can rest easy knowing that it's in there?
By moral minority, I'm referring to those who actually care enough to complain rather than switching the channel. Everyone has morals, whether they admit it or not. They may not be ones that you agree with, but they are there regardless.
A... (or the teachers or administrators in charge, more correctly). If they were not in charge, then my comment does not apply to them. Whomever WAS in charge is who I was referring to.
B... it was the ONLY thing edited out from the pledge. WHy did something have to be edited out? And how do you 'know' something 'had' to be edited?
A. Why is anyone in charge of whether or not a student chooses to say the Pledge?
B. I don't. I just suspect it did. Even that being the case, they have picked to edit that particular part. They may have simply done it by mistake. In any case, why does it bother you? Why is it such a big deal to you for NBC to not pat you on the head for being religious?
Here's the thing...
I don't really have a huge problem with the school children omitting 'Under God' themselves. That's on them (or the teachers or administrators in charge, more correctly).
However, I DO have a problem with a 'news' organization 'editing' it out.
So you have to be a part of a religion to believe in God? Really? I didn't know that.
I see. So just so I have this straight, you consider those that called into NBC to complain, some kind of religious morons (my paraphrase) because they didn't just turn the channel, yet those who complain about Beck, or Hannity are somehow more intelligent?
j-mac
Have you ever spent a day in a broadcast studio?
30 seconds is an eternity. There is NOTHING that is worth 30 seconds apart from ads.
Why is anyone in charge? Really? Is that a serious question?
So you suspect that Under God needed to be edited out? Why? And maybe you can explain how saying that we are one nation under God is a nod to ANY religion.
j-mac
Whovian said:A... (or the teachers or administrators in charge, more correctly). If they were not in charge, then my comment does not apply to them. Whomever WAS in charge is who I was referring to.
B... it was the ONLY thing edited out from the pledge. WHy did something have to be edited out? And how do you 'know' something 'had' to be edited?
A. Why is anyone in charge of whether or not a student chooses to say the Pledge?
B. I don't. I just suspect it did. Even that being the case, they have picked to edit that particular part. They may have simply done it by mistake. In any case, why does it bother you? Why is it such a big deal to you for NBC to not pat you on the head for being religious? Why is that part of the Pledge (which isn't even in the original, and I still believe is unconstitutional) more important to you than any other? If they'd cut "with liberty and justice for all" would you be this disgruntled?
You are kidding right?
To believe in a god or gods fundamentally means you believe in a religion/s. It could be refering to any number of gods, but it still is a religion.
A. That isn't what I said. In fact I am fairly sure in some places kids are legally protected from being forced to say the Pledge.B. I suspect it's possible *something* needed to be edited out. But I don't think it matters. Anyone around during the 50's or with even the tiniest amount of knowledge about history knows what they meant when they added "under god" and they weren't talkin' about Shiva. It also specifically alienates atheists and other non-religious people... and you are aware the non-religious are the second largest ground in America, behind only Christianity, right?