Natural Rights versus Manmade Rights

[Master PO]

It should be noted that the Massachusetts convention failed to ratify that language... and that there is a qualifier of 'peaceful citizens. '

ratify?, why would they ratify a statement made at the convention by sam adams who knows citizens have the right to keep and bear their own arms.

 

[RAMOSS]

ratify?, why would they ratify a statement made at the convention by sam adams who knows citizens have the right to keep and bear their own arms.

DO you know what the history of that quote is?? It was words that were proposed to be put in the Massachusetts Constitution, and those words were rejected by the other people.

 

[Master PO]

DO you know what the history of that quote is?? It was words that were proposed to be put in the Massachusetts Constitution, and those words were rejected by the other people.

Samuel Adams of Massachusetts:

"The said Constitution [shall] be never construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press, or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms." — Massachusetts' U.S. Constitution ratification convention, 1788

the statement was made by Sam Adams, at the u.s. constitution ratification convention in Massachusetts.....the convention was talking over whether Massachusetts will ratify the u.s. constitution, it has nothing to do with the Massachusetts constitution which was created in 1780.

 

[RAMOSS]

Samuel Adams of Massachusetts:

"The said Constitution [shall] be never construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press, or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms." — Massachusetts' U.S. Constitution ratification convention, 1788

the statement was made by Sam Adams, at the u.s. constitution ratification convention in Massachusetts.....the convention was talking over whether Massachusetts will ratify the u.s. constitution, it has nothing to do with the Massachusetts constitution which was created in 1780.

Yes, it was. I also pointed out that it was to put in the Massachusetts constitution, and it was rejected. What part of that do you not understand?

 

[Master PO]

Yes, it was. I also pointed out that it was to put in the Massachusetts constitution, and it was rejected. What part of that do you not understand?

what does the Massachusetts constitution have to do with the ratifying convention of 1788?

 

[RAMOSS]

what does the Massachusetts constitution have to do with the ratifying convention of 1788?

It was the Masssachusetts convention of 1788.

 

[Master PO]

It was the Massachusetts convention of 1788.

jeez!

guy, in 1788 the state of Massachusetts is debating the u.s constitution which was created in Philadelphia on whether they will ratify it , they are holding a state convention, it has nothing to do with the Massachusetts state constitution.

 

[RAMOSS]

jeez!

guy, in 1788 the state of Massachusetts is debating the u.s constitution which was created in Philadelphia on whether they will ratify it , they are holding a state convention, it has nothing to do with the Massachusetts state constitution.

YOu are right.. It was when Massachuestts was ratifying it.. but the language Sam adams wanted in the constititon didn't make it there

 

[Master PO]

YOu are right.. It was when Massachuestts was ratifying it.. but the language Sam adams wanted in the constititon didn't make it there

guy, the convention can only ratify the constitution or not ratify it, they cannot add/make changes to the u.s. constitution