Nate Silver now givers Bernie a round 0% chance; time to drop out

[lurchadams]

OK, how can we spell "it's over" any clearer?

538's Nate Silver has downgrade Bernie's chances to a round zero.

Who Will Win The 2020 Democratic Primary? | FiveThirtyEight

Biden is now projected to finish with 2,436 pledged delegates even if Bernie doesn't drop out until the end. Such huge popular vote difference (so far, +1,472,542 and counting) and plenty of pledged delegates to win the first ballot of the convention without any help from superdelegates, should dispel any notion that the nomination is being "stolen from Bernie" like some of his fans like to say. Again, like I've been saying, for something to be stolen from you, it needs to be yours to start with, and the nomination has not been and will never be Bernie's to start with. Also, there is no rigging. There were consolidations and endorsements which are part of the normal political process in ALL elections everywhere in the world, but the people have spoken, and the people's choice is clearly Biden.

The margin of error is insufficient for Biden to drop below 1991, and also insufficient for Bernie to go up to 1991.

In national polls, the average now shows Biden 21.1% ahead of Sanders.

Decisive advantages for Biden also exist in all major states coming up this Tuesday: Florida +42.8%, Illinois +31.4%, Ohio +24%, Arizona +23.4%.

If Bernie cares for a party he always had a contentious relationship with, he should drop out at the latest after the inevitable shellacking he will get this coming Tuesday.

Something, though, tells me that he won't, which will be really, really a regrettable move.

Bernie, come on! Time to heal the party and try to keep most Bernie fans engaged in the bigger (and difficult but not impossible) task of kicking Trump out of the White House.

If Bernie was a true patriot he would end his campaign and start campaigning with Biden. Biden, I'm sure would make a deal with Bernie to support some of Bernie's more pragmatic ideas.

The mango menace must be vanquished in November. Our democracy is at stake.

 

[VanceMack]

How would it play out like this at the convention? Biden is projected to win the race with more than 2,400 pledged delegates even if Bernie doesn't drop out, so he will win the convention in first ballot with plenty of room to spare. Are you still under the impression that there will be a contested convention and Hillary will step in for the second ballot with superdelegate help in shiny armor??? LOL. There will be no second ballot.

Nate Silver now gives to a contested convention, a 0.2% chance of happening.

You need to seriously update your information.

I think Biden could pop a vein at any minute. Dood is fragile. There is a reason why liberals dont want him debating Bernie one on one.

 

[Craig234]

They gave Biden a 7% or less chance two weeks ago.

 

[Craig234]

If Bernie was a true patriot he would end his campaign and start campaigning with Biden.

You aren't even fit to use his name. He's doing exactly what he should. If one of you isn't patriotic, it's not him.

 

[Nap]

I don't know if I would say 0% chance. He has the leverage to force the DNC to back him should he decide it was worth it. If he showed up to the debate and declared that he will run as an independent then Democrat voters will be left with the choice of falling behind Bernie or Trump getting reelected. Let's face it, no on is "excited" to put a vote down for Biden but Bernie has an enthusiastic and passionate base that will follow him making the obvious choice to vote Bernie for a chance at beating Trump.

 

[Taylor]

Biden has issues. Bernie has time. Let's see what happens.

 

[swing_voter]

They gave Biden a 7% or less chance two weeks ago.

The election is a referendum on socialism in American now. If Bernie loses, he takes down socialism with him.

 

[ttwtt78640]

Lol, maybe he could hire Bernie to speak for him.

Once he secures the DNC nomination then Obama may do some talking for him.

 

[CaughtInThe]

The election is a referendum on socialism in American now. If Bernie loses, he takes down socialism with him.

Yes, because if there's one thing this American experiment has proven it's that once voters vote one way during an election they never change their minds ever again.

Now, you women get back in the kitchen.

 

[Michael Cole]

I don't know if I would say 0% chance. He has the leverage to force the DNC to back him should he decide it was worth it. If he showed up to the debate and declared that he will run as an independent then Democrat voters will be left with the choice of falling behind Bernie or Trump getting reelected. Let's face it, no on is "excited" to put a vote down for Biden but Bernie has an enthusiastic and passionate base that will follow him making the obvious choice to vote Bernie for a chance at beating Trump.

Yes, Sanders' base is enthusiastic and passionate. They like concerts and are devoted attendees. Voting booths? Not so much.

 

[lurchadams]

You aren't even fit to use his name. He's doing exactly what he should. If one of you isn't patriotic, it's not him.

He's a narcissist with zero path to the nomination. Continued infighting will only hurt the Dem's chances in the general.

 

[Slavister]

Bernie ... should drop out

This got me thinking... Say Bernie drops out, and a few months later, shortly before the convention, something (covid-19?) happens to Biden and he passes. Does this mean Dems have to end up with Tulsi as the only standing nominee? Or prior candidates can all jump back in and somehow redo things? Perhaps convention attendees decide at that point.

Now, same question, but Biden (or Trump) passes after the convention - then what?

 

[Winston]

This got me thinking... Say Bernie drops out, and a few months later, shortly before the convention, something (covid-19?) happens to Biden and he passes. Does this mean Dems have to end up with Tulsi as the only standing nominee? Or prior candidates can all jump back in and somehow redo things? Perhaps convention attendees decide at that point.

Now, same question, but Biden (or Trump) passes after the convention - then what?

I would guess the VP would assume the major role like if a President dies in office.

 

[Casca XV]

OK, how can we spell "it's over" any clearer?

538's Nate Silver has downgrade Bernie's chances to a round zero.

Who Will Win The 2020 Democratic Primary? | FiveThirtyEight

Biden is now projected to finish with 2,436 pledged delegates even if Bernie doesn't drop out until the end. Such huge popular vote difference (so far, +1,472,542 and counting) and plenty of pledged delegates to win the first ballot of the convention without any help from superdelegates, should dispel any notion that the nomination is being "stolen from Bernie" like some of his fans like to say. Again, like I've been saying, for something to be stolen from you, it needs to be yours to start with, and the nomination has not been and will never be Bernie's to start with. Also, there is no rigging. There were consolidations and endorsements which are part of the normal political process in ALL elections everywhere in the world, but the people have spoken, and the people's choice is clearly Biden.

The margin of error is insufficient for Biden to drop below 1991, and also insufficient for Bernie to go up to 1991.

In national polls, the average now shows Biden 21.1% ahead of Sanders.

Decisive advantages for Biden also exist in all major states coming up this Tuesday: Florida +42.8%, Illinois +31.4%, Ohio +24%, Arizona +23.4%.

If Bernie cares for a party he always had a contentious relationship with, he should drop out at the latest after the inevitable shellacking he will get this coming Tuesday.

Something, though, tells me that he won't, which will be really, really a regrettable move.

Bernie, come on! Time to heal the party and try to keep most Bernie fans engaged in the bigger (and difficult but not impossible) task of kicking Trump out of the White House.

Reagan currently holds the record for the “Oldest Sitting President”. If either Crazy Bernie or Creepy Joe somehow wins in November, they will enter office older than Reagan was on the day he left office.

Joe is so far gone he can’t tell the difference between his wife and his sister, Bernie’s slips are less noticeable because he says nothing except the same dozen Socialist tired talking points he has been repeating for the last 30 years.

And before anyone gets started: Trump gives hour long speeches without teleprompters, sometime several times a day. While doing it he is constantly verbally defeating hostel reporters and hecklers. An occasional verbal gaff is not him in the same boat as Joe or Bernie.

 

[Craig234]

He's a narcissist with zero path to the nomination..

Bernie is the anti-narcissist. That's the most clueless thing I've seen here all day, and you have no idea what a high bar that is.

 

[Craig234]

Joe is so far gone he can’t tell the difference between his wife and his sister

Lie. He was facing forward, pointing to who he thought was behind him, and immediately recognized and corrected himself when he turned and saw them, saying they'd switched positions.

, Bernie’s slips are less noticeable because he says nothing except the same dozen Socialist tired talking points he has been repeating for the last 30 years.

Lie. Lie about tulips, the most important issue in the country.

 

[Craig234]

socialism

** lie **. If I see the same lie you tell constantly again by tomorrow, I'm done with your posts.

 

[Casca XV]

Lie. He was facing forward, pointing to who he thought was behind him, and immediately recognized and corrected himself when he turned and saw them, saying they'd switched positions.

Even if so there are two dozen other incident of Creepy Joe showing early Alzheimer's.

 

[Craig234]

Even if so there are two dozen other incident of Creepy Joe showing early Alzheimer's.

There are definitely times he's looked out of it. The one you claimed was not.

 

[Nap]

He's a narcissist with zero path to the nomination. Continued infighting will only hurt the Dem's chances in the general.

He has a path, I just doubt he would take it. There is nothing stopping him from telling the DNC to hand him the nomination or he will run as an independent and pretty much gift the Presidency to Trump should they refuse. If he was truly the narcissist you believe him to be then this would be the obvious route to take.

 

[3leftsdoo]

Once he secures the DNC nomination then Obama may do some talking for him.

Obama - the alleged socialist - helped orchestrate both of the DNC back stabbings of Bernie.

So it seems only appropriate that he would pimp Biden.

 

[lurchadams]

Bernie is the anti-narcissist. That's the most clueless thing I've seen here all day, and you have no idea what a high bar that is.

He has zero path to the nomination. We don't always get the candidate we want. So you go ahead and continue to pine away for Bernie and vilify those who live in reality, stay home in November and refuse to vote for Biden. You can retire to your mom's basement, proud of yourself that you stuck to your principles and trump will have 4 more years to pack the courts with non-qualified religious zealots and authoritarians and further erode our democracy.

 

[Craig234]

He has zero path to the nomination. We don't always get the candidate we want. So you go ahead and continue to pine away for Bernie and vilify those who live in reality

You threw up on my screen. Rude.

 

[Moderate Right]

OK, how can we spell "it's over" any clearer?

538's Nate Silver has downgrade Bernie's chances to a round zero.

Who Will Win The 2020 Democratic Primary? | FiveThirtyEight

Biden is now projected to finish with 2,436 pledged delegates even if Bernie doesn't drop out until the end. Such huge popular vote difference (so far, +1,472,542 and counting) and plenty of pledged delegates to win the first ballot of the convention without any help from superdelegates, should dispel any notion that the nomination is being "stolen from Bernie" like some of his fans like to say. Again, like I've been saying, for something to be stolen from you, it needs to be yours to start with, and the nomination has not been and will never be Bernie's to start with. Also, there is no rigging. There were consolidations and endorsements which are part of the normal political process in ALL elections everywhere in the world, but the people have spoken, and the people's choice is clearly Biden.

The margin of error is insufficient for Biden to drop below 1991, and also insufficient for Bernie to go up to 1991.

In national polls, the average now shows Biden 21.1% ahead of Sanders.

Decisive advantages for Biden also exist in all major states coming up this Tuesday: Florida +42.8%, Illinois +31.4%, Ohio +24%, Arizona +23.4%.

If Bernie cares for a party he always had a contentious relationship with, he should drop out at the latest after the inevitable shellacking he will get this coming Tuesday.

Something, though, tells me that he won't, which will be really, really a regrettable move.

Bernie, come on! Time to heal the party and try to keep most Bernie fans engaged in the bigger (and difficult but not impossible) task of kicking Trump out of the White House.

Bernie's policy ideas finally caught up with him. He wanted a revolution and defended Castro and calls himself a socialist. When Biden started pulling out in front, Bernie stepped up his attacks on the Joe Biden past, a past that has already been known. Nobody really cares that Biden, along with many others, voted for the Iraq war many moons ago and voters know that Biden is not going to cut everyone's social security. Bernie keeps on wanting to rehash things that voters have already forgiven Biden for. He's getting nowhere by attacking Biden's past. And, there aren't as many on board with MFA as the far left would have you believe and most voters, including AOC, realize that even if Bernie became president MFA isn't going to happen.

 

[Casca XV]

There are definitely times he's looked out of it. The one you claimed was not.

I just watched the video again. That one was also an alzheimer moment.

They got him down to 15 minute or less speeches because that is all he has.