Nancy Pelosi is winning in her battle with Trump. Here's why

[Yakshi]

A Straw Man is when an argument is presented that has nothing to do with the actual topic... that is what happened.

That's not what a straw man is.

 

[CaughtInThe]

So reading a bunch of ignorant posts will enlighten me?

i would hope that you could already understand that a Thread that talks about Pelosi winning against Trump is about both of them.

later i'll be talking about how the Chiefs are winning against the Pats. it will only be about the Chiefs though.

 

[Bodi]

Really, did you offer the thread title? Did you climb into the poster's head as he was offering the thread title.

Prove that I did not do exactly that...

 

[washunut]

The House Dem bills to reopen the government almost certainly have 60 votes in the Senate, given that they passed the Senate via voice vote less than a month ago. This crisis is being manufactured entirely by McConnell and Trump.

So you think that the current border situation is sustainable. Or perhaps you don't care. Just more cheap partisan politics. Do you really think that the government should be shut down for $5 billion reagardless if the money is totally wasted? Moronic on both sides. House dem bills we both know CNN would call stunts if done by the other side. That is due to the fact they knew there was zero chance of passage before passing them.

Perhaps if we get your senator to be our next president you can praise a truly open border policy. See how a country with a social safety net can absorb additional millions of ILLEGAL immigrants poring into the country. Perhaps you can sponser flights from India and China to fly into Mexico so millions more can walk into our country. Sad.

 

[jnug]

i would hope that you could already understand that a Thread that talks about Pelosi winning against Trump is about both of them.

later i'll be talking about how the Chiefs are winning against the Pats. it will only be about the Chiefs though.

Christ I am already buried under a mountain of snow. You had to rub in it bringing up Chiefs/Pats.

 

[Bodi]

i would hope that you could already understand that a Thread that talks about Pelosi winning against Trump is about both of them.

later i'll be talking about how the Chiefs are winning against the Pats. it will only be about the Chiefs though.

Correct. Now you are getting it.

 

[Yakshi]

"Hey Chuck, who's winning?"

 

[jnug]

Correct. Now you are getting it.

Yea, he's getting it alright. He's getting that you are forwarding a view from out Saturn's way and headed out of the solar system.

 

[Bodi]

That's not what a straw man is.

Wrong. A Straw Man argument is one that misrepresents a position in order to make it appear weaker than it actually is, refutes this misrepresentation of the position, and then concludes that the real position has been refuted. Why would you say otherwise?

 

[Yakshi]

Yea, he's getting it alright. He's getting that you are forwarding a view from out Saturn's way and headed out of the solar system.

Some folks just need the attention.

 

[Bodi]

Yea, he's getting it alright. He's getting that you are forwarding a view from out Saturn's way and headed out of the solar system.

You are speaking for another poster AND claiming to be an Astrologist?

 

[bongsaway]

For years the house,both republican and democratic have passed many bills that are not taken up in the senate. With neither party having 60 votes there,and with mostly straight party line votes little can be passed in the senate. To say one party controls the senate with 51 or even 59 seats is just another fabrication of the media and the lemmings who believe the nonsense.

Are you saying unless you have complete control of either the house or the senate a vote shouldn't be taken at all. That is a poor excuse for governing.

 

[Plasmaball]

When the thread is about one specific politician and a person comes in and starts talking about a completely different politician... well, that really tells us something.

Sure had cim brought up Nixon you would have a point..he didn't and brought up trump which is part of this story.

 

[Bodi]

Sure, go ahead. Dismiss the concerns of someone who worked closely with Trump and who helped shape the illusion which Trump used to win the White House. An illusion that Trump himself has proven to have been just that by his incredible ineptitude, while displaying a recklessness which shows that the ghost-writer's fears might not be as hyperbolic as that kind of statement usually is.

Dude is worried that Trump will literally end humanity and you want to trust his opinion on other things too?

 

[Yakshi]

Wrong. A Straw Man argument is one that misrepresents a position in order to make it appear weaker than it actually is, refutes this misrepresentation of the position, and then concludes that the real position has been refuted. Why would you say otherwise?

That's what a straw man is--not what your brain thought a straw man was in that earlier post.

My choice to point it out literally forced you to use google and learn something new.

What would you like me to have you learn next?

 

[jnug]

You are speaking for another poster AND claiming to be an Astrologist?

Hey your the guy who said "he is getting it". I am agreeing with you. IMO, he is getting it.

 

[SenorXm/Sirius]

A Straw Man is when an argument is presented that has nothing to do with the actual topic... that is what happened.

It has everything to do with this topic. The fact Trumpsters like you cheered when just because of politics the GOP Congress played hardball and wouldn't lift a finger to help this country heel from 1 of it's worse economic crashes in history. But now you are criticizing the Dems for playing hardball just proves how hypocritical most on the right are.

 

[Bodi]

My forum name serves the purpose of allowing morons to self-identify by focusing on it.

It is batting 1.000 lifetime.

Let's simplify the discussion as much as possible.

What is the title of this thread in full?

You will never answer that question honestly.

When the title of a thread wounds one so deeply that he can't type it without bruising his own ego, well, that's just pathetic, isn't it?

And here you are focussing on your forum name... You even give it an average! That didn't go the way that you expected, did it. :lol:

 

[jnug]

Prove that I did not do exactly that...

Now there is the topper....the end all, retire the trophy absurd post of all time particular for a forum titled DebatePolitics.

 

[Bodi]

It has everything to do with this topic. The fact Trumpsters like you cheered when just because of politics the GOP Congress played hardball and wouldn't lift a finger to help this country heel from 1 of it's worse economic crashes in history. But now you are criticizing the Dems for playing hardball just proves how hypocritical most on the right are.

FAIL. Trump is a loser. This is the problem with these debates and Americans in general. I am objective about the arguments... you guys just rage in your pale of hatred flinging feces...

 

[Yakshi]

Wrong. A Straw Man argument is one that misrepresents a position in order to make it appear weaker than it actually is, refutes this misrepresentation of the position, and then concludes that the real position has been refuted. Why would you say otherwise?

Were you planning to give credit to this website

https://www.logicalfallacies.info/ambiguity/straw-man/

from which you just plagiarized the sentence in bold, meanwhile pretending that it was your own understanding?

 

[Bodi]

Now there is the topper....the end all, retire the trophy absurd post of all time particular for a forum titled DebatePolitics.

Can you translate that into something understandable, please? I see trophies though and I like getting trophies...

 

[jnug]

FAIL. Trump is a loser. This is the problem with these debates and Americans in general. I am objective about the arguments... you guys just rage in your pale of hatred flinging feces...

Thanks, We will not for future reference that YOUR view of Americans is from New Zealand. That is fine, as far as it goes....as far as it goes.

 

[Amelia]

Dude is worried that Trump will literally end humanity and you want to trust his opinion on other things too?

Dude may have used hyperbole. No, the use of hyperbole doesn't negate the value of the words of the man who helped create the myth that Trump had any qualifications at all to be president.

Nothing changes that Trump has proven that his ability to deal is a myth.

We don't yet know how far off the ghostwriter's hyperbole is from what Trump is willing to do or may yet attempt in spite of being warned that the courts will attempt to constrain him. We do know Trump is breathtakingly reckless and dangerous and is in the midst of wreaking great damage on the nation.

But I don't blame you for attempting to use the ghostwriter's hypberbole to deflect from the trainwreck we are currently witnessing. You don't have much else to work with in defending Trump.

 

[jnug]

Can you translate that into something understandable, please? I see trophies though and I like getting trophies...

No need to translate. You apparently got the gist of it.