My Definitive Pre-Debate Rankings of the Democratic Presidential Candidates

[TrueScotsman]

#6: Cory Booker and everyone else. While I invite the remaining 16 candidates to continue running and seek to influence the platform, I think pretty much all of them have no chance. Sorry, winning really matters to my analysis.

#4: Bernie Sanders. I was a Bernie Congressional delegate in the last Primary, but that was chiefly because of my concerns regarding Hillary Clinton. I was also less critical of Democratic Socialism, but I think a Bernie Primary victory could frame the General Election as a Socialism versus Capitalism Primary, and my knowledge of the American National Character causes me to be skeptical of a victory on this front.

#4: Joe Biden. Veep Biden has all kinds of problems for me as a candidate, but he is well known, associated with Obama (whom a lot of people love), and most importantly polling well (though increasingly not so well). I would begrudgingly support Joe if he were nominated, but I doubt I will end up supporting him in the primary.

#3: Kamala Harris. I think the Senator is one of the three remaining candidates able to scoop up Biden's vote. She seems to me like she would be a good president, though I would like to see her performance on the debate stage and see where precisely she lands in certain policy areas.

#2 Mayor Pete and Elizabeth Warren. At the top I have the two people who I think could most likely topple Biden for the kind of broader canopy candidate for the Democratic Party. I honestly think Pete's homosexuality may make him unable to run at the top of a ticket in a must win election, though I think perhaps if he were to be a Vice President for Warren I think this could be formidable. Obviously, the "Pocahontas" fiasco will haunt, but it wasn't fatal and she is growing on the basis of substance. I think such a ticket could also satisfy both wings of the Party to a large extent, but I think this depends on Biden falling on his face.

#1 Any human being who is nominated for the Democratic Party. Whether its Sanders, or Biden, or Gabbard, or Yang, or Warren, or Buttigieg, or Oprah, or Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson. They have my vote. Any direction is better than the one we are going under Trump's "leadership." My viewpoint will likely evolve to support that candidate which I think will be most successful in the General Election. Ideological purity can take secondary importance this around, victory MUST be achieved, so my viewpoint will eventually gravitate to whom I view has the best shot against Trump. I don't think that can be established yet, even with Biden polling the best at present.

 

[Surrealistik]

#6: Cory Booker and everyone else. While I invite the remaining 16 candidates to continue running and seek to influence the platform, I think pretty much all of them have no chance. Sorry, winning really matters to my analysis.

#4: Bernie Sanders. I was a Bernie Congressional delegate in the last Primary, but that was chiefly because of my concerns regarding Hillary Clinton. I was also less critical of Democratic Socialism, but I think a Bernie Primary victory could frame the General Election as a Socialism versus Capitalism Primary, and my knowledge of the American National Character causes me to be skeptical of a victory on this front.

#4: Joe Biden. Veep Biden has all kinds of problems for me as a candidate, but he is well known, associated with Obama (whom a lot of people love), and most importantly polling well (though increasingly not so well). I would begrudgingly support Joe if he were nominated, but I doubt I will end up supporting him in the primary.

#3: Kamala Harris. I think the Senator is one of the three remaining candidates able to scoop up Biden's vote. She seems to me like she would be a good president, though I would like to see her performance on the debate stage and see where precisely she lands in certain policy areas.

#2 Mayor Pete and Elizabeth Warren. At the top I have the two people who I think could most likely topple Biden for the kind of broader canopy candidate for the Democratic Party. I honestly think Pete's homosexuality may make him unable to run at the top of a ticket in a must win election, though I think perhaps if he were to be a Vice President for Warren I think this could be formidable. Obviously, the "Pocahontas" fiasco will haunt, but it wasn't fatal and she is growing on the basis of substance. I think such a ticket could also satisfy both wings of the Party to a large extent, but I think this depends on Biden falling on his face.

#1 Any human being who is nominated for the Democratic Party. Whether its Sanders, or Biden, or Gabbard, or Yang, or Warren, or Buttigieg, or Oprah, or Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson. They have my vote. Any direction is better than the one we are going under Trump's "leadership." My viewpoint will likely evolve to support that candidate which I think will be most successful in the General Election. Ideological purity can take secondary importance this around, victory MUST be achieved, so my viewpoint will eventually gravitate to whom I view has the best shot against Trump. I don't think that can be established yet, even with Biden polling the best at present.

Is this your opinion as to who would be the best candidate?

 

[SDET]

#6: Cory Booker and everyone else. While I invite the remaining 16 candidates to continue running and seek to influence the platform, I think pretty much all of them have no chance. Sorry, winning really matters to my analysis.

#4: Bernie Sanders. I was a Bernie Congressional delegate in the last Primary, but that was chiefly because of my concerns regarding Hillary Clinton. I was also less critical of Democratic Socialism, but I think a Bernie Primary victory could frame the General Election as a Socialism versus Capitalism Primary, and my knowledge of the American National Character causes me to be skeptical of a victory on this front.

#4: Joe Biden. Veep Biden has all kinds of problems for me as a candidate, but he is well known, associated with Obama (whom a lot of people love), and most importantly polling well (though increasingly not so well). I would begrudgingly support Joe if he were nominated, but I doubt I will end up supporting him in the primary.

#3: Kamala Harris. I think the Senator is one of the three remaining candidates able to scoop up Biden's vote. She seems to me like she would be a good president, though I would like to see her performance on the debate stage and see where precisely she lands in certain policy areas.

#2 Mayor Pete and Elizabeth Warren. At the top I have the two people who I think could most likely topple Biden for the kind of broader canopy candidate for the Democratic Party. I honestly think Pete's homosexuality may make him unable to run at the top of a ticket in a must win election, though I think perhaps if he were to be a Vice President for Warren I think this could be formidable. Obviously, the "Pocahontas" fiasco will haunt, but it wasn't fatal and she is growing on the basis of substance. I think such a ticket could also satisfy both wings of the Party to a large extent, but I think this depends on Biden falling on his face.

#1 Any human being who is nominated for the Democratic Party. Whether its Sanders, or Biden, or Gabbard, or Yang, or Warren, or Buttigieg, or Oprah, or Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson. They have my vote. Any direction is better than the one we are going under Trump's "leadership." My viewpoint will likely evolve to support that candidate which I think will be most successful in the General Election. Ideological purity can take secondary importance this around, victory MUST be achieved, so my viewpoint will eventually gravitate to whom I view has the best shot against Trump. I don't think that can be established yet, even with Biden polling the best at present.

Another example of a spoiled person not realizing how lucky they are. Life is pretty good in these United States, but some people won't rest until they've killed the golden goose and "fundamentally transformed America". We can certainly do lots better than Trump, but no such person has come one the scene.

 

[JasperL]

#6: Cory Booker and everyone else. While I invite the remaining 16 candidates to continue running and seek to influence the platform, I think pretty much all of them have no chance. Sorry, winning really matters to my analysis.

#4: Bernie Sanders. I was a Bernie Congressional delegate in the last Primary, but that was chiefly because of my concerns regarding Hillary Clinton. I was also less critical of Democratic Socialism, but I think a Bernie Primary victory could frame the General Election as a Socialism versus Capitalism Primary, and my knowledge of the American National Character causes me to be skeptical of a victory on this front.

#4: Joe Biden. Veep Biden has all kinds of problems for me as a candidate, but he is well known, associated with Obama (whom a lot of people love), and most importantly polling well (though increasingly not so well). I would begrudgingly support Joe if he were nominated, but I doubt I will end up supporting him in the primary.

#3: Kamala Harris. I think the Senator is one of the three remaining candidates able to scoop up Biden's vote. She seems to me like she would be a good president, though I would like to see her performance on the debate stage and see where precisely she lands in certain policy areas.

#2 Mayor Pete and Elizabeth Warren. At the top I have the two people who I think could most likely topple Biden for the kind of broader canopy candidate for the Democratic Party. I honestly think Pete's homosexuality may make him unable to run at the top of a ticket in a must win election, though I think perhaps if he were to be a Vice President for Warren I think this could be formidable. Obviously, the "Pocahontas" fiasco will haunt, but it wasn't fatal and she is growing on the basis of substance. I think such a ticket could also satisfy both wings of the Party to a large extent, but I think this depends on Biden falling on his face.

#1 Any human being who is nominated for the Democratic Party. Whether its Sanders, or Biden, or Gabbard, or Yang, or Warren, or Buttigieg, or Oprah, or Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson. They have my vote. Any direction is better than the one we are going under Trump's "leadership." My viewpoint will likely evolve to support that candidate which I think will be most successful in the General Election. Ideological purity can take secondary importance this around, victory MUST be achieved, so my viewpoint will eventually gravitate to whom I view has the best shot against Trump. I don't think that can be established yet, even with Biden polling the best at present.

I agree with almost all of that. The one person I've not been convinced at all by is Kamala Harris. Maybe it's because I haven't seen much of her and don't know her as a Senator at all, but she strikes me as sort of a Hillary type person. I'm not sure what principles she actually holds, other than career advancement. I read a story a couple nights ago about her record with prosecutions of abuse in the Catholic church in the SF area. Her predecessor aggressively compiled files detailing the victims and abusers and was taking abusive priests to the woodshed, very aggressively. Harris took over and slammed those files shut to people filing civil suits. That didn't surprise me because the Catholic church is powerful in SF and she's a climber, and if making a deal to keep those files under wraps for political support is what she thought was best for HER, that's the feeling I'd get is what she'd do.

I know they're all like that to a large extent, but I just don't trust her.

And I'd put Bernie in the bottom group. I got fed up with him in 2016 and when he joined the party about an hour (exaggerating a bit) before announcing his run, ran as a Democrat, lost, then left the party just about as soon as possible afterwards, I was done with him running as a Democrat. If he wants to run as a Democrat, he should have by now become one, but he'd rather be an "independent" when it suits him and freeload off the Democratic party's infrastructure when it suits him, and I'm tired of it. If he's the nominee, I won't have any trouble voting for him, but he won't get my vote in the primary.

Plus I live in the suburbs, in the South, but the feeling is more or less universal - Anybody but Trump!!!, but please, please don't make me have to vote for Bernie f'ing Sanders. There are a LOT of gettable Democratic voters out there who just are not socialists. I like Bernie, listened to him for years, respect him in many ways, but I also do not support his agenda, and I think when the $billion plus in ads start running it's going to get REALLY ugly for Sanders if he's the nominee. I can only imagine how bad they'll make the tax increases needed to fund Medicare for All, and the rest of his agenda look. Won't be hard.

 

[TrueScotsman]

Is this your opinion as to who would be the best candidate?

Best candidate is whoever wins the Democratic Primary, I am not clear yet who is the best. I am kind of leaning towards Buttigieg and Warren among those in the front pack that I think have a shot.

 

[TrueScotsman]

Another example of a spoiled person not realizing how lucky they are. Life is pretty good in these United States, but some people won't rest until they've killed the golden goose and "fundamentally transformed America". We can certainly do lots better than Trump, but no such person has come one the scene.

Well of course I am going to disagree with a Right - Libertarian on almost everything. Not really interested in selecting a candidate who wants to implement what amounts to Social Darwinism.

 

[trixare4kids]

Best candidate is whoever wins the Democratic Primary, I am not clear yet who is the best. I am kind of leaning towards Buttigieg and Warren among those in the front pack that I think have a shot.

Did you say the same when DJT won the Democratic Primary? Double standard?

Just trying to keep it real, and know I am not interested in who you think is best for the Democrats.

 

[nekrodev]

Ideological purity can take secondary importance this around, victory MUST be achieved, so my viewpoint will eventually gravitate to whom I view has the best shot against Trump. I don't think that can be established yet, even with Biden polling the best at present.

I think this entire section demonstrates a misconception or a mistaken way of thinking about how this works. It's not about "Ideological purity", it's about being right on the issues. Some of the Dem candidates support a move to a proper healthcare system, and others don't, and a couple say they do, but when you ask what they mean, they really don't. That's not "ideological purity", that's doing what your constituents seem to want, and what would be in the best interest of the largest number of Americans.

Some candidates, like Joe Biden, are just plain ****ing wrong about virtually everything. He's almost literally a moderate Republican, and he's almost literally just a gropey, old man version of Hillary. He can probably still beat Trump now, because Trump has been so awful, but he's not going to bring out any passion or draw a vote based on his policy or any kind of passion.

 

[Surrealistik]

Best candidate is whoever wins the Democratic Primary, I am not clear yet who is the best. I am kind of leaning towards Buttigieg and Warren among those in the front pack that I think have a shot.

Love Warren but she and Buttigieg both have serious electability issues for different reasons and the latter has no real policy. That said, Warren is easily my number two choice, but I am definitely cognizant of the whole Pocahontas thing, and the fact that she just isn't particularly charismatic or a great public speaker. In terms of raw electability, as much as I hate him, I think Biden beats her out, and that legitimately pains me to admit.

Sanders definitely comes out on top for me; he's eminently electable, doesn't take corporate cash, and has excellent policy. I can't wait to see him come to blows in the debate. If the GOP plays itself by going into the general Hillary style with nothing but 'opponent bad' with no platform otherwise as Bernie delivers on policy that actually helps working people, they will almost certainly lose as she did for the same reasons.

 

[TrueScotsman]

I agree with almost all of that. The one person I've not been convinced at all by is Kamala Harris. Maybe it's because I haven't seen much of her and don't know her as a Senator at all, but she strikes me as sort of a Hillary type person. I'm not sure what principles she actually holds, other than career advancement. I read a story a couple nights ago about her record with prosecutions of abuse in the Catholic church in the SF area. Her predecessor aggressively compiled files detailing the victims and abusers and was taking abusive priests to the woodshed, very aggressively. Harris took over and slammed those files shut to people filing civil suits. That didn't surprise me because the Catholic church is powerful in SF and she's a climber, and if making a deal to keep those files under wraps for political support is what she thought was best for HER, that's the feeling I'd get is what she'd do.

I know they're all like that to a large extent, but I just don't trust her.

And I'd put Bernie in the bottom group. I got fed up with him in 2016 and when he joined the party about an hour (exaggerating a bit) before announcing his run, ran as a Democrat, lost, then left the party just about as soon as possible afterwards, I was done with him running as a Democrat. If he wants to run as a Democrat, he should have by now become one, but he'd rather be an "independent" when it suits him and freeload off the Democratic party's infrastructure when it suits him, and I'm tired of it. If he's the nominee, I won't have any trouble voting for him, but he won't get my vote in the primary.

Plus I live in the suburbs, in the South, but the feeling is more or less universal - Anybody but Trump!!!, but please, please don't make me have to vote for Bernie f'ing Sanders. There are a LOT of gettable Democratic voters out there who just are not socialists. I like Bernie, listened to him for years, respect him in many ways, but I also do not support his agenda, and I think when the $billion plus in ads start running it's going to get REALLY ugly for Sanders if he's the nominee. I can only imagine how bad they'll make the tax increases needed to fund Medicare for All, and the rest of his agenda look. Won't be hard.

I will look more into what you said about Kamala. I am tentative regarding my opinion of her, and hold her higher than Biden and Bernie merely because I have less to criticize. That could change, and so far she is at least acceptable but I do not forsee her earning my report in the Primary, but who knows what could happen.

I think Bernie will be really polarizing, despite the fact that I think he is a nice guy. I will seek most of all to see him defeated I think in the Primary, but of course would support him if he won the nomination.

 

[SDET]

Did you say the same when DJT won the Democratic Primary? Double standard?

Just trying to keep it real, and know I am not interested in who you think is best for the Democrats.

I like your snark about Trump winning the open GOP (aka Democratic) primary. It was crossover Democrats that gave Trump the nomination.

I'm interested in who will be best for the country. If we must elect a Democrat, let's not elect a unabashed Marxist. Biden or long shot Hickenlooper are about the only choices.

 

[JasperL]

Did you say the same when DJT won the Democratic Primary? Double standard?

Just trying to keep it real, and know I am not interested in who you think is best for the Democrats.

I assume you meant Republican primary, but why is it a double standard for someone to prefer whoever wins the Democratic primary out of a list of known names, but not Trump who did win the GOP primary in 2016? If you believed Trump was unfit for office as I did, it wouldn't have mattered which primary he won - I would have opposed him. It's not a double standard to look at a list of names running on the Democratic side and say, "Yep, any of those are an improvement over Trump."

 

[Surrealistik]

Plus I live in the suburbs, in the South, but the feeling is more or less universal - Anybody but Trump!!!, but please, please don't make me have to vote for Bernie f'ing Sanders. There are a LOT of gettable Democratic voters out there who just are not socialists. I like Bernie, listened to him for years, respect him in many ways, but I also do not support his agenda, and I think when the $billion plus in ads start running it's going to get REALLY ugly for Sanders if he's the nominee. I can only imagine how bad they'll make the tax increases needed to fund Medicare for All, and the rest of his agenda look. Won't be hard.

So I take it you have similar issues with Warren then who is basically running on a nigh identical agenda?

 

[haymarket]

My pre-debate rankings are

1 - Biden
2- Warren
3 - Mayor Pete
4 - Sanders
5 - Harris

It is strictly based on polls and strength within the party.

 

[DiAnna]

I will look more into what you said about Kamala. I am tentative regarding my opinion of her, and hold her higher than Biden and Bernie merely because I have less to criticize. That could change, and so far she is at least acceptable but I do not forsee her earning my report in the Primary, but who knows what could happen.

I think Bernie will be really polarizing, despite the fact that I think he is a nice guy. I will seek most of all to see him defeated I think in the Primary, but of course would support him if he won the nomination.

I'm not a Kamala fan. She just hit the senate last year, after promising voters that she would spend the next six years working on behalf of California; she had a presidential campaign committee put together 8 months later. Blind ambition and dishonesty are not two traits I reward; but yes, I will vote for her if she is the democratic nominee.

My preferred candidate is Amy Klobuchar; experienced, honest to a fault, a strong moderate who appeals to working class (of all colors) along with moderate never-Trump Independents and GOP. Her weakness is appealing to the more radical progressive voters. Amy could remedy this by taking Cory Booker as VP!

That said, I'll vote whoever the democrats put on the ballot.

 

[Surrealistik]

My preferred candidate is Amy Klobuchar; experienced, honest to a fault, a strong moderate who appeals to working class (of all colors) along with moderate never-Trump Independents and GOP. Her weakness is appealing to the more radical progressive voters. Amy could remedy this by taking Cory Booker as VP!

That said, I'll vote whoever the democrats put on the ballot.

Yeah man, wanting a widely adopted and proven 21st century healthcare system that isn't by far the most inefficient and costly the world has literally ever known; that's some radical stuff.

 

[DiAnna]

Yeah man, wanting a widely adopted and proven 21st century healthcare system that isn't by far the most inefficient and costly the world has literally ever known; that's some radical stuff.

Don't put words in my mouth. Thanks.

 

[TrueScotsman]

I think this entire section demonstrates a misconception or a mistaken way of thinking about how this works. It's not about "Ideological purity", it's about being right on the issues. Some of the Dem candidates support a move to a proper healthcare system, and others don't, and a couple say they do, but when you ask what they mean, they really don't. That's not "ideological purity", that's doing what your constituents seem to want, and what would be in the best interest of the largest number of Americans.

Some candidates, like Joe Biden, are just plain ****ing wrong about virtually everything. He's almost literally a moderate Republican, and he's almost literally just a gropey, old man version of Hillary. He can probably still beat Trump now, because Trump has been so awful, but he's not going to bring out any passion or draw a vote based on his policy or any kind of passion.

I'm saying that someone could have the perfect synthesis in which they are right on all the ideas, and wrong for the candidacy because they are not electable. I would be okay with a gropey old man version of Hillary Clinton. I would be fine with Hillary Clinton. Anyone but Trump.

If the Progressive Package is sufficiently sold such that a majority of America buys into it, then cool, I would be okay going this route. I don't think that is likely and still think there needs to be some degree of moderation among the Democratic nominee.

I think Warren is doing well on the policy front, she is growing by virtue of advocating for sensible ideas. I'm all for the best ideas winning the day at the Primary, but I also want those ideas to be popular and electable.

It could be the most meticulously thought out platform, and we could lose and it be for nothing. Victory is supremely important.

 

[SonOfDaedalus]

#6: Cory Booker and everyone else. While I invite the remaining 16 candidates to continue running and seek to influence the platform, I think pretty much all of them have no chance. Sorry, winning really matters to my analysis.

#4: Bernie Sanders. I was a Bernie Congressional delegate in the last Primary, but that was chiefly because of my concerns regarding Hillary Clinton. I was also less critical of Democratic Socialism, but I think a Bernie Primary victory could frame the General Election as a Socialism versus Capitalism Primary, and my knowledge of the American National Character causes me to be skeptical of a victory on this front.

#4: Joe Biden. Veep Biden has all kinds of problems for me as a candidate, but he is well known, associated with Obama (whom a lot of people love), and most importantly polling well (though increasingly not so well). I would begrudgingly support Joe if he were nominated, but I doubt I will end up supporting him in the primary.

#3: Kamala Harris. I think the Senator is one of the three remaining candidates able to scoop up Biden's vote. She seems to me like she would be a good president, though I would like to see her performance on the debate stage and see where precisely she lands in certain policy areas.

#2 Mayor Pete and Elizabeth Warren. At the top I have the two people who I think could most likely topple Biden for the kind of broader canopy candidate for the Democratic Party. I honestly think Pete's homosexuality may make him unable to run at the top of a ticket in a must win election, though I think perhaps if he were to be a Vice President for Warren I think this could be formidable. Obviously, the "Pocahontas" fiasco will haunt, but it wasn't fatal and she is growing on the basis of substance. I think such a ticket could also satisfy both wings of the Party to a large extent, but I think this depends on Biden falling on his face.

#1 Any human being who is nominated for the Democratic Party. Whether its Sanders, or Biden, or Gabbard, or Yang, or Warren, or Buttigieg, or Oprah, or Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson. They have my vote. Any direction is better than the one we are going under Trump's "leadership." My viewpoint will likely evolve to support that candidate which I think will be most successful in the General Election. Ideological purity can take secondary importance this around, victory MUST be achieved, so my viewpoint will eventually gravitate to whom I view has the best shot against Trump. I don't think that can be established yet, even with Biden polling the best at present.

I prefer Booker to Harris. Have you looked at Harris' prosecutorial history? Remember, Booker ran into a burning building to save someone while he was mayor. That story will sell. And he's also pretty smart. He studied at Oxford with a Rhodes Scholarship like Bill Clinton. He can get minorities out to vote which is one of the reasons Hillary lost.

I would vote for Mayor Pete. He would be my ideal choice but I'm very worried about his electability. I don't want to risk Trump being reelected.

I think only Biden, Sanders or Booker would be sure bets to defeat Trump. Everyone else is a gamble.

 

[Surrealistik]

Don't put words in my mouth. Thanks.

No one's putting words in your mouth; I'm mocking your probable definition of radical.

But hey, if you don't think progressives who support MFA are 'radical' then good on you; I mean that.

 

[trixare4kids]

I like your snark about Trump winning the open GOP (aka Democratic) primary. It was crossover Democrats that gave Trump the nomination.

I'm interested in who will be best for the country. If we must elect a Democrat, let's not elect a unabashed Marxist. Biden or long shot Hickenlooper are about the only choices.

Everyone is interested in who will be best for the country.
If the economy sucked, I'd consider supporting a middle of the road centrist Democrat, but if it ain't broke, why fix it?

I am not impressed with who is going up against the guy who gets credit for a winning economy.

 

[TrueScotsman]

I'm not a Kamala fan. She just hit the senate last year, after promising voters that she would spend the next six years working on behalf of California; she had a presidential campaign committee put together 8 months later. Blind ambition and dishonesty are not two traits I reward; but yes, I will vote for her if she is the democratic nominee.

My preferred candidate is Amy Klobuchar; experienced, honest to a fault, a strong moderate who appeals to working class (of all colors) along with moderate never-Trump Independents and GOP. Her weakness is appealing to the more radical progressive voters. Amy could remedy this by taking Cory Booker as VP!

That said, I'll vote whoever the democrats put on the ballot.

I like Klobuchar, perhaps she might get a modest bump. But I find it unlikely, especially with Biden in the race for her campaign to last very long.

 

[TrueScotsman]

Everyone is interested in who will be best for the country.
If the economy sucked, I'd consider supporting a middle of the road centrist Democrat, but if it ain't broke, why fix it?

I am not impressed with who is going up against the guy who gets credit for a winning economy.

When do you expect the next recession to hit?

 

[SDET]

I prefer Booker to Harris. Have you looked at Harris' prosecutorial history? Remember, Booker ran into a burning building to save someone while he was mayor. That story will sell. And he's also pretty smart. He studied at Oxford with a Rhodes Scholarship like Bill Clinton. He can get minorities out to vote which is one of the reasons Hillary lost.

I would vote for Mayor Pete. He would be my ideal choice but I'm very worried about his electability. I don't want to risk Trump being reelected.

I think only Biden, Sanders or Booker would be sure bets to defeat Trump. Everyone else is a gamble.

That's all we need: President Booty Plug.

 

[trixare4kids]

When do you expect the next recession to hit?

I have no idea.
Care to share what you think? Hoping for one?