Mueller Report Corroborates Russian Meddling

[Rogue Valley]

Mueller Report Corroborates Russian Meddling, Signals Potential Legal Problems For Trump

Mueller's report details extensive contacts between the campaign and Russian operatives who sought to influence the U.S. election.

4/19/19
WASHINGTON – U.S. Special Counsel Robert Mueller corroborated U.S. intelligence conclusions of Russian meddling in the 2016 election, and also documented President Donald Trump’s efforts to undermine his inquiry, but Mueller concluded there was not sufficient evidence to prove Trump and his team committed a crime by colluding with Russia officials. Mueller’s findings were detailed in the partially redacted, 448-page report, released April 18, which also points to areas where Trump and his associates could still face legal problems, as well as the potential for impeachment proceedings. The report, in painstaking detail, details different aspects of Russia’s efforts to interfere in the 2016 election, a finding that matches previous findings of the U.S. intelligence community, made after the November 2016 election and just weeks before Trump’s inauguration. "The Russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election in sweeping and systematic fashion,” the Mueller report said.

Among the most pointed allegations leveled earlier by Mueller regarding Russian interference was the indictment of a dozen Russian military intelligence officers who, he said, were behind the hacking and theft of Democratic party e-mails, e-mails that were released in the heat of the 2016 U.S. presidential election. Mueller also reported multiple times where Trump directed staffers or officials to curtail the Russia investigation. It said those efforts "were mostly unsuccessful, but that is largely because the persons who surrounded the president declined to carry out orders or accede to his requests." In Moscow, meanwhile, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov dismissed the release of Mueller’s report as unimportant. "This is not an issue for us. It is not a thing that interests us or causes us concern," Peskov said, adding that the Kremlin has “more interesting and important things to do.”

Mueller concluded that Russia definitely meddled in the 2016 election with the explicit intention of helping Donald Trump to win.

Trump has never apologized to the American people, or to the US intelligence community, for publicly stating that he believed Vladimir Putin's meddling denials rather than his own intelligence agencies.

Related: The Russia-Trump Links in Mueller’s Report, Explained

 

[Bucky]

Mueller Report Corroborates Russian Meddling, Signals Potential Legal Problems For Trump

Mueller's report details extensive contacts between the campaign and Russian operatives who sought to influence the U.S. election.

Mueller concluded that Russia definitely meddled in the 2016 election with the explicit intention of helping Donald Trump to win.

Trump has never apologized to the American people, or to the US intelligence community, for publicly stating that he believed Vladimir Putin's meddling denials rather than his own intelligence agencies.

Related: The Russia-Trump Links in Mueller’s Report, Explained

Question, did you actually read the redacted Mueller report word for word yourself or are you basing this off other's you may or may not have read it?

 

[VanceMack]

Pretty sure we all knew was Russia was 'meddling'. Hell...Even after Barrack Obama said "Hey...I told them to knock it off!" They still did including running facebook site promoting Bernie Sanders. The Mueller indictment came out in Feb of last years claiming they “engaged in operations primarily intended to communicate derogatory information about Hillary Clinton, to denigrate other candidates such as Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio, and to support Bernie Sanders and then-candidate Donald Trump.”

They also promoted Black Lives Matter campaign and are reported to have funded Bernies rallies.

Where you been?

 

[Grand Mal]

Question, did you actually read the redacted Mueller report word for word yourself or are you basing this off other's you may or may not have read it?

Mueller indicted 25 Russians for interfering in the election. Previous to the election Obama sanctioned Russia for interfering. What kind of language would convince you the Russians meddled in the election? What evidence do you need?

 

[AncientGeek]

Question, did you actually read the redacted Mueller report word for word yourself or are you basing this off other's you may or may not have read it?

Here's the best part:
"The conclusion that Congress may apply the obstruction laws to the President’s corrupt exercise of the powers of office accords with our constitutional system of checks and balances and the principle that no person is above the law."

 

[DarkWizard12]

Mueller indicted 25 Russians for interfering in the election. Previous to the election Obama sanctioned Russia for interfering. What kind of language would convince you the Russians meddled in the election? What evidence do you need?

The mueller report specifically says that no one on the campaign intentionally colluded with the russians.

They didn't do it. They tried....but they didn't. Dems would be better off focusing on obstruction, since there's plenty there but, again, he may have just been pissed off he had to deal with a special consul.

 

[BWG]

I agree with Steny

"Based on what we have seen to date, going forward on impeachment is not worthwhile at this point. Very frankly, there is an election in 18 months and the American people will make a judgment,” Hoyer told CNN.

Get out the vote.

Get everyone you know to get registered (if they're not already) and vote a straight Democratic ticket.

 

[Cardinal]

Mueller just puts the official imprimatur on what we already knew: the Trump campaign was balls deep in collusion with Russia. But because the Trump campaign never arrived at an agreement on how to collude and did not coordinate specific actions with Russia, it did not rise to the level of criminality.

But here's the thing that's so often missed in the noise:

1) Is it right for a Presidential candidate to welcome and encourage a foreign adversary's interference, or for his campaign team to meet multiple times with Russians to make that cooperation possible?
2) Is it right that that candidate and his team lied about their involvement or attempted involvement at every step of the way?
3) Is it right that the campaign members successfully destroyed evidence in order to frustrate the Special Counsel's investigation so that he couldn't determine the complete picture?

And finally:

4) In light of the three above points, does that person have any right to be President?

 

[Bucky]

I agree with Steny



Get out the vote.

Get everyone you know to get registered (if they're not already) and vote a straight Democratic ticket.

I remember the last time that happened. Our economy almost collapsed.

 

[Crovax]

Mueller just puts the official imprimatur on what we already knew: the Trump campaign was balls deep in collusion with Russia. But because the Trump campaign never arrived at an agreement on how to collude and did not specifically coordinate with Russia, it did not rise to the level of criminality.

But here's the thing that's so often missed in the noise:

1) Is it right for a Presidential candidate to welcome and encourage a foreign adversary's interference, or for his campaign team to meet multiple times with Russians to make that cooperation possible?
2) Is it right that that candidate and his team lied about their involvement or attempted involvement at every step of the way?
3) Is it right that the campaign members successfully destroyed evidence in order to frustrate the Special Counsel's investigation so that he couldn't determine the complete picture?

And finally:

4) In light of the three above points, does that person have any right to be President?

I’m glad we are finally getting tough on Russia now but it’s funny how most democrats are ignoring that Obama openly colluded with Russia and then down played Russias role as an enemy to the US.

Clearly they people to the US thought Obama had the right to be president after that so I guess we will see what they think in 2020

 

[Cardinal]

I’m glad we are finally getting tough on Russia now but it’s funny how most democrats are ignoring that Obama openly coll-

 

[Crovax]

Exactly the reaction dems give because you all know that when the dems are back in power they will be lining on the get on their knees for Putin

 

[apdst]

Pretty sure we all knew was Russia was 'meddling'. Hell...Even after Barrack Obama said "Hey...I told them to knock it off!" They still did including running facebook site promoting Bernie Sanders. The Mueller indictment came out in Feb of last years claiming they “engaged in operations primarily intended to communicate derogatory information about Hillary Clinton, to denigrate other candidates such as Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio, and to support Bernie Sanders and then-candidate Donald Trump.”

They also promoted Black Lives Matter campaign and are reported to have funded Bernies rallies.

Where you been?

They're hanging on to their collusion trutherism.

 

[apdst]

Mueller indicted 25 Russians for interfering in the election. Previous to the election Obama sanctioned Russia for interfering. What kind of language would convince you the Russians meddled in the election? What evidence do you need?

The Russians tried to hack the RNC, too. Too bad the DNC's cyber-security was garbage.

 

[Crovax]

The Russians tried to hack the RNC, too. Too bad the DNC's cyber-security was garbage.

I’m sure it helps that about half the GOP probably still uses flip phones :mrgreen:

 

[bomberfox]

The mueller report specifically says that no one on the campaign intentionally colluded with the russians.

They didn't do it. They tried....but they didn't. Dems would be better off focusing on obstruction, since there's plenty there but, again, he may have just been pissed off he had to deal with a special consul.

This i totally agree with.

 

[bomberfox]

The Russians tried to hack the RNC, too. Too bad the DNC's cyber-security was garbage.

That still would mean they tried to interfere if true.

 

[Cardinal]

Exactly the reaction dems give because you all know that when the dems are back in power they will be lining on the get on their knees for Putin

One common trait you see from Republicans is that the worse Trump is revealed to be, the more hysterical their imaginary "what Democrats would do" fantasies have to get. It must be exhausting having to create your own reality just to continue rationalizing your support for that guy.

 

[tres borrachos]

Pretty sure we all knew was Russia was 'meddling'. Hell...Even after Barrack Obama said "Hey...I told them to knock it off!" They still did including running facebook site promoting Bernie Sanders. The Mueller indictment came out in Feb of last years claiming they “engaged in operations primarily intended to communicate derogatory information about Hillary Clinton, to denigrate other candidates such as Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio, and to support Bernie Sanders and then-candidate Donald Trump.”

They also promoted Black Lives Matter campaign and are reported to have funded Bernies rallies.

Where you been?

I remember the President of the United States standing in front of a podium with Vladimir Putin and discussing Russian interference in the elections. I remember these words from the President:

"I think it's a disgrace we can't get Hillary Clinton's 33,000 e-mails. I have great confidence in my intelligence people, but I will tell you that President Putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today," Trump said.

“I will say this: I don’t see any reason why it would be” Russia that interfered with the 2016 election, Trump said.


So what you're saying is that everyone in the world knew that Russia meddled - except Donald Trump.

What a wonderful reflection on him.

 

[Chomsky]

Pretty sure we all knew was Russia was 'meddling'. Hell...Even after Barrack Obama said "Hey...I told them to knock it off!" They still did including running facebook site promoting Bernie Sanders. The Mueller indictment came out in Feb of last years claiming they “engaged in operations primarily intended to communicate derogatory information about Hillary Clinton, to denigrate other candidates such as Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio, and to support Bernie Sanders and then-candidate Donald Trump.”

They also promoted Black Lives Matter campaign and are reported to have funded Bernies rallies.

Where you been?

The OP's point is that Trump lied, believing Putin.

 

[Chomsky]

The mueller report specifically says that no one on the campaign intentionally colluded with the russians.

They didn't do it. They tried....but they didn't. Dems would be better off focusing on obstruction, since there's plenty there but, again, he may have just been pissed off he had to deal with a special consul.

The bolded may explain Trump's motive, but it does not legal excuse his actions.

 

[Chomsky]

I agree with Steny



Get out the vote.

Get everyone you know to get registered (if they're not already) and vote a straight Democratic ticket.

Is it easier to get a Senatorial supermajority? Or, an Electoral College bare majority? <-- rhetorical question

 

[Mr Person]

Obama

Obama

Ok, I'll remove Obama from office if you just give me a sec....

:fart



Right. Let's get down to business. What's that, Obama isn't impeachable? And weren't you one of the people parroting Trump's lie that the investigation was into "collusion" and that investigations into "collusion" are phony because there's no in the U.S. Code titled "collusion"?

And how could you possibly trust anything like an investigation into Obama if he's using his mind control worms from space to run a deep state illuminati?

 

[Chomsky]

Mueller just puts the official imprimatur on what we already knew: the Trump campaign was balls deep in collusion with Russia. But because the Trump campaign never arrived at an agreement on how to collude and did not coordinate specific actions with Russia, it did not rise to the level of criminality.

But here's the thing that's so often missed in the noise:

1) Is it right for a Presidential candidate to welcome and encourage a foreign adversary's interference, or for his campaign team to meet multiple times with Russians to make that cooperation possible?
2) Is it right that that candidate and his team lied about their involvement or attempted involvement at every step of the way?
3) Is it right that the campaign members successfully destroyed evidence in order to frustrate the Special Counsel's investigation so that he couldn't determine the complete picture?

And finally:

4) In light of the three above points, does that person have any right to be President?

I will add one aside to your compendium, here:

In hindsight, the journalists did an amazing job with the investigation. They were generally accurate (for the most part), and adamantly prosecuted in the proper role of the Fourth Estate. The administration threw everything they could at the journalists, but they prevailed. They showed they're a critical component in the maintenance & health of our democracy.

I hope these events motivated & enthused a few kids to pursue journalism, and bring new blood into the fold.

 

[Mr Person]

It really is so ****ing pathetic the way they all keep flopping their positions as you deem each thread demands. They spent two years dishonestly claiming that "the left" asserted Trump committed collusion when "the left" was saying "what we know looks bad but let's wait for the report." No, they said. It was a "witch hunt" Obama deep state illuminati using Mueller to frame Trump!

And now: Mueller is awesome! He should investigate Obama now! Wooohooo!

Extra credit: guess what happens if they did and Mueller cleared Obama? I suspect it'd be back to "deep state" and they simply would not respond to any part of any post mentioning the love they newly found for Mueller after Barr released the redacted report.​

......even though there's a mount of evidence of obstruction, and now that the only reason Mueller didn't find "Links and/or coordination with the Russian government [re: the election]" is because Team Trump was too inept to pull it off. Ok, so there was no links and/or coordination.

There was attempted links and/or coordination, failing due to ineptitude.

And there was a pile of attempted obstruction and possible actual obstruction, replete with destroyed evidence.






Let me guess: But Hillary! But Tea Pot Dome! Burn the bloody wigs!

:roll:

You backed a corrupt scum bag, and you're still backing him because it would hurt too much to admit fault, but perhaps more importantly because it might upset a liberal that you do so.