Mueller may have a conflict — and it leads directly to a Russian oligarch

[danarhea]

Nope- read about the agent- I have readabout this case for mnay years

What did Mueller do that is such a conflict that saving an Agents life makes him disqualified.

Now go ahead and pretend you care about that agent who is in all likelihood dead
You keep sinking lower and lower.
Is there no level that Spanksters like yourself will not sink to?

Mueller met with Mafia members, and John Gotti ended up dying in prison.

Trumpanzee response: Mueller is colluding with the Mafia. LOL.

 

[truthatallcost]

I read the article but I still don't have any idea as to why this would be a conflict. Because the FBI worked with the guy on a particular objective while Mueller ran it a decade ago? I don't get it.

Mueller colluded (to use your favorite term) with a Russian organized crime figure, in order to skirt US sanctions against Iran, and then Deripaska was mysteriously rewarded with a rare diplomatic passport, even though he's not entitled to one.

Should DOJ appoint a special council to investigate Mueller's ties to corrupt Russian underworld types? Maybe.

 

[truthatallcost]

Mueller met with Mafia members, and John Gotti ended up dying in prison.

Trumpanzee response: Mueller is colluding with the Mafia. LOL.

You should care a little more about what the hell our FBI has been up to the last 20 years. Muellers predecessor left the Director position, and immediately went to work for one of the chief funders of the 9/11 attacks. If Americans could only pull their heads out of the sand long enough to start demanding answers, we might actually affect some positive change in government.

 

[MTAtech]

http://thehill.com/opinion/white-ho...t-and-it-leads-directly-to-a-russian-oligarch

Oops. This is turning into a right mess for Mr. Mueller.

Conflict of interest. I don't think those words mean what you think they mean.

A conflict of interest is when a party has conflicting alliances. There was none here. Mueller was representing the interests of the U.S. and using a Russian to aid those objectives isn't a conflict.

 

[trixare4kids]

FBI, CIA, NSA, they all have too much power.
Time to change things.

 

[bubbabgone]

Ok, so he was never paid by the FBI?

In money? Not that we know.
In favors? Yes.

 

[danarhea]

You should care a little more about what the hell our FBI has been up to the last 20 years. Muellers predecessor left the Director position, and immediately went to work for one of the chief funders of the 9/11 attacks. If Americans could only pull their heads out of the sand long enough to start demanding answers, we might actually affect some positive change in government.

Ahh yes, members of the Federal government conspired with bin Laden to bring down the twin towers. And don't forget that bitch, Dorothy, who with the Scarecrow, Tin Man, and Lion, lit up the target for the terrorists. But this could not have been done without the help of Batman, who in an alternate Universe is really the Jihadist Joker in drag. Give credit also to Atom Ant, the Partridge in the pear tree, and.......... and..........

AAAAAIIEEEEEE!!

OK, Doc, gimme my meds. (My doc is Bigfoot, 'ya know.) :mrgreen:

 

[truthatallcost]

Ahh yes, members of the Federal government conspired with bin Laden to bring down the twin towers. And don't forget that bitch, Dorothy, who with the Scarecrow, Tin Man, and Lion, lit up the target for the terrorists. But this could not have been done without the help of Batman, who in an alternate Universe is really the Jihadist Joker in drag. Give credit also to Atom Ant, the Partridge in the pear tree, and.......... and..........

AAAAAIIEEEEEE!!

OK, Doc, gimme my meds. (My doc is Bigfoot, 'ya know.) :mrgreen:

I forgot that I'm talking to someone who knows potato about world events & politics.

The FBI director's name is Louis Freeh, and his client was Prince Bandar of the Saudi Royal Family. Go research it, or grow more potatoes... Up to you.

 

[roughdraft274]

Mueller colluded (to use your favorite term) with a Russian organized crime figure, in order to skirt US sanctions against Iran, and then Deripaska was mysteriously rewarded with a rare diplomatic passport, even though he's not entitled to one.

Should DOJ appoint a special council to investigate Mueller's ties to corrupt Russian underworld types? Maybe.

The fbi worked a deal with someone who assisted them on a case. This is bad somehow?

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[Parrish]

Here's a better take on things pertaining to the topic subject by a prestigious ethical news source who's a member of the White House Press Pool.



JOHN SOLOMON: Mueller May Have Huge Conflict of Interest That Leads Directly to Russian Oligarch Oleg Deripaska

Um, he is now identified by the Conservative blog as an "opinion writer" akin to the likes of Hannity.

 

[truthatallcost]

The fbi worked a deal with someone who assisted them on a case. This is bad somehow?

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Lmao, is that really all that happened, or are you deliberately ignoring US Sanctions violations and granting governmental privileges to Russian organized crime figures? I'm going with the latter.

 

[yankintx]

I read the article but I still don't have any idea as to why this would be a conflict. Because the FBI worked with the guy on a particular objective while Mueller ran it a decade ago? I don't get it.

Its a deflect from another drip in the Trump scum bucket, more bad news for Trumpsters. And more foreigners meeting in Trump tower Dec 2016 with Cohen and Flynn.

 

[danarhea]

I forgot that I'm talking to someone who knows potato about world events & politics.

The FBI director's name is Louis Freeh, and his client was Prince Bandar of the Saudi Royal Family. Go research it, or grow more potatoes... Up to you.

And you, almighty God of the political world, know everything. Therefore, I need to believe with all my mind this conspiracy you are peddling about 911 and US government officials allied with bin Laden taking down the twin towers.

Or, on the other hand, this conspiracy you are peddling could just be another one of your BS fairy tales.

Yea, I'll take "On the other hand" for a thousand dollars, Alex.

 

[Objective Voice]

http://thehill.com/opinion/white-ho...t-and-it-leads-directly-to-a-russian-oligarch

Oops. This is turning into a right mess for Mr. Mueller.

I'm with you on this one. I don't see the conflict here.

The FBI "contracted" with Deripaska to fund a secret mission where his "team" worked with the FBI. From theHill.com article:

hey said FBI agents courted Deripaska in 2009 in a series of secret hotel meetings in Paris; Vienna; Budapest, Hungary, and Washington. Agents persuaded the aluminum industry magnate to underwrite the mission. The Russian billionaire insisted the operation neither involve nor harm his homeland.

“We knew he was paying for his team helping us, and that probably ran into the millions,” a U.S. official involved in the operation confirmed.

However, the mission was called off due to conflicts between the U.S. State Department and the Iranians who were also involved. Again, from the article:

Then in fall 2010, the operation secured an offer to free Levinson. The deal was scuttled, however, when the State Department become uncomfortable with Iran’s terms, according to Deripaska’s lawyer and the Levinson family.

...

FBI officials ended the operation in 2011, concerned that Deripaska’s Iranian contacts couldn’t deliver with all the U.S. infighting. Levinson was never found; his whereabouts remain a mystery, 11 years after he disappeared.

So, where's the conflict over a mission that never went forward. Was Deripaska under U.S. federal sanctions between 2009-2011?

Since Andrew McCabe is no longer with the FBI, where's the conflict from that angle?

What are we missing that others see?

 

[Objective Voice]

They are investigating the possibility of "collusion" with the Russians, and one of their targets is someone they not only worked with, got to pay 25 million in his own money to help but has gotten special visa's to visit the States. That leads to some "hmmm" moments and could cause legal issues for Mueller's probe.

Actually, Deripaska isn't a target of the Russian collusion investigation. The OP article makes that clear. If anything, Deripaska is a "witness" to Paul Manafort's financial misdeeds.

 

[Objective Voice]

http://thehill.com/opinion/white-ho...t-and-it-leads-directly-to-a-russian-oligarch

As for the Agent, well it's clear in the Article that they couldn't get the deal done because of the State Dept. I don't' see you raising any ire with them, because well.. that would mean criticizing Saint Hillary and you can't do that.

The criticism isn't about Hillary and the State Depart she ran at the time. It's about the perceived conflict of interest with SC Mueller. I could understand if folks were critical of Hillary's role in this, but not Mueller's especially since the mission was called off. Moreover, the FBI doesn't approval travel VISA's. That, too, is on the State Dept. So, again, where's the conflict of interest w/Mueller here?

 

[Objective Voice]

go ahead and pretend you actually care about russia at all. the right wing tried to tell you about the dangers of them, but you left wing extremists laughed it off. then what happened during obamas same term? thanks

All the more reason why Republicans should be concerned about the real possibility of Russian collusion. :doh

But too many of you are more concerned with defending Pres. Trump than you are in seeing how our democracy may have been co-opted from within and without. That's the danger you so-called "defenders of the Constitution" seem to purposely be ignoring.

 

[Objective Voice]

you pretend to be outraged about "trump and russia" yet you left wing radicals voted for the man that laughed and said the cold war is over. then during his SAME term, russia hacks.

that says a lot about your loyalties.

Obama wasn't wrong though. The Cold War IS over. However, that doesn't mean that Russia hasn't been trying to undermine our foreign policy efforts abroad. We may not be in an arms race with them, but we are at opposite ends of "power projection" extremes.

 

[Objective Voice]

so you agree that obamas collusion with russia to be more flexible after the election was pretty suspicious? especially when laughing when romney said they were our biggest geopolitical threat?

Oh, come on, man!

Working with ONE wealthy Russian businessman and using his vast financial resources as a front to help rescue an American citizen from Iranian captivity is NOT collusion. It's a cooperative engagement for sure, but NOT collusion. No one was undermined (although there was an attempt to pull the wool over the eyes of the Iranians). Why would you be upset about the U.S. and Russia working together on that?

 

[apdst]

I read the article but I still don't have any idea as to why this would be a conflict. Because the FBI worked with the guy on a particular objective while Mueller ran it a decade ago? I don't get it.

This is why it might be a problem...

Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz told me he believes Mueller has a conflict of interest because his FBI previously accepted financial help from a Russian that is, at the very least, a witness in the current probe.

“The real question becomes whether it was proper to leave [Deripaska] out of the Manafort indictment, and whether that omission was to avoid the kind of transparency that is really required by the law,” Dershowitz said.

...and it needs to be looked into.

 

[apdst]

Oh, come on, man!

Working with ONE wealthy Russian businessman and using his vast financial resources as a front to help rescue an American citizen from Iranian captivity is NOT collusion. It's a cooperative engagement for sure, but NOT collusion. No one was undermined (although there was an attempt to pull the wool over the eyes of the Iranians). Why would you be upset about the U.S. and Russia working together on that?

Then there's this...

"It’s possible the bureau’s arrangement with Mr. Deripaska violated the Antideficiency Act, which prohibits the government from accepting voluntary services,” Sloan said.

 

[camlok]

He has ties to Russian oligarchs.

US oligarchs have had ties to US government death squads, US government war criminal presidents, US government terrorist presidents since forever. That is how they have become so FILTHY rich.

 

[Chomsky]

I've read the article, scanned the thread, and still can't figure out the conflict here.

 

[OpportunityCost]

I'm with you on this one. I don't see the conflict here.

The FBI "contracted" with Deripaska to fund a secret mission where his "team" worked with the FBI. From theHill.com article:



However, the mission was called off due to conflicts between the U.S. State Department and the Iranians who were also involved. Again, from the article:



So, where's the conflict over a mission that never went forward. Was Deripaska under U.S. federal sanctions between 2009-2011?

Since Andrew McCabe is no longer with the FBI, where's the conflict from that angle?

What are we missing that others see?

The conflict is that Deripaska used considerable resources, estimated in the millions of dollars, to move the mission forward. The FBI is not allowed to accept volunteered contributions because it can sway an investigation with private resources. This is an ethical violation by Mueller, who headed the operation.

Secondly, when approached by the FBI, Deripaska was negative on the idea of collusion with Trump. As a person well versed in Russian politics and how they operate, it is unethical, again, to hide this meeting and his reaction to it.

 

[Atomic Kid]

Then there's this...

There's an Anti-deficiency Act? Oh boy I may have to turn you in then.