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Mueller did EXACTLY what he should have done!

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Mueller uncovered something that he felt may not have been under his jurisdiction so he passed on the information to the agency legally empowered to determine if it was substantive or not. Obviously it was substantive, or subpoenas would not have been granted.
 
Vetplus40 said:
Mueller uncovered something that he felt may not have been under his jurisdiction so he passed on the information to the agency legally empowered to determine if it was substantive or not. Obviously it was substantive, or subpoenas would not have been granted.
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Mueller gave his information to US Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein (his supervisor). Rosenstein then assigned the case to the Attorney General for Southern New York.
 
Democrates hate America
 
Vetplus40 said:
Mueller uncovered something that he felt may not have been under his jurisdiction so he passed on the information to the agency legally empowered to determine if it was substantive or not. Obviously it was substantive, or subpoenas would not have been granted.
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Clearly proper conduct was iffy enough that cheering is in order, because here we find you cheering.
 
It is entirely possible that this referral to the NY DA is about things Cohen has done as Trump's fixer as opposed to things Trump has done that Cohen was trying to fix. Cohen is not what one would call subtle. He is simply a fixer with a law degree. He is not a trial lawyer and based on his work on the Stormy Daniels NDA civil law is not his strong suit, nor is any real component of being a practicing attorney a strong suit of Cohen's. So there could well be just gobs and gobs of evidence that the Mueller investigation has simply stumbled across that amount to possible indictments v Cohen. Could be that simple. Whatever it is, it is something that the Dep. AG, the NY DA and a judge found compelling because it is darned difficult to get a search warrant for an attorney's records. Judges don't hand those out like jelly beans.

Interesting that trump so quickly threw Cohen under the bus the other day. At the least, he has exposed Cohen to the possibility of disbarment and trump does not have a get out of disbarment free card for him.
 
Rogue Valley said:
Mueller gave his information to US Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein (his supervisor). Rosenstein then assigned the case to the Attorney General for Southern New York.
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I think that Mueller has to go to Rosenstein every time he finds something that would expand his investigation and Rosenstein has to decide if it fits within Mueller's investigation. If not, as in this case, Rosenstien gives it to the proper person to handle the problem. They don't just overlook a possible violation of the law.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Clearly proper conduct was iffy enough that cheering is in order, because here we find you cheering.
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Yes, they know good and well that this is illegal and improper.
 
jnug said:
It is entirely possible that this referral to the NY DA is about things Cohen has done as Trump's fixer as opposed to things Trump has done that Cohen was trying to fix. Cohen is not what one would call subtle. He is simply a fixer with a law degree. He is not a trial lawyer and based on his work on the Stormy Daniels NDA civil law is not his strong suit, nor is any real component of being a practicing attorney a strong suit of Cohen's. So there could well be just gobs and gobs of evidence that the Mueller investigation has simply stumbled across that amount to possible indictments v Cohen. Could be that simple. Whatever it is, it is something that the Dep. AG, the NY DA and a judge found compelling because it is darned difficult to get a search warrant for an attorney's records. Judges don't hand those out like jelly beans.

Interesting that trump so quickly threw Cohen under the bus the other day. At the least, he has exposed Cohen to the possibility of disbarment and trump does not have a get out of disbarment free card for him.
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Good try, but attorney-client privilege is attorney client privilege, and I look forward to seeing you sorry pieces of trash walk this back.

You people are destroying every good thing about our legal system just to get to a politician you don't like. That's all I have to say about this.
 
LowDown said:
Good try, but attorney-client privilege is attorney client privilege, and I look forward to seeing you sorry pieces of trash walk this back.


You people are destroying every good thing about our legal system just to get to a politician you don't like. That's all I have to say about this.
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Good try but attorney client privilege does not cover illegal acts said "attorney" might have committed. Given Cohen's lack of a moral framework for the job he does and given that he has never in all his years with trump filed a single brief on trump's behalf I would not be hanging on the attorney/client privilege argument. Cohen is a fixer with a law degree, a thug and not much more than that.
 
LowDown said:
Good try, but attorney-client privilege is attorney client privilege, and I look forward to seeing you sorry pieces of trash walk this back.


You people are destroying every good thing about our legal system just to get to a politician you don't like. That's all I have to say about this.
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Good try but attorney client privilege does not cover illegal acts said "attorney" might have committed. Given Cohen's lack of a moral framework for the job he does and given that he has never in all his years with trump filed a single brief on trump's behalf I would not be hanging on the attorney/client privilege argument. Cohen is a fixer with a law degree, a thug and not much more than that.
 
Vetplus40 said:
Mueller uncovered something that he felt may not have been under his jurisdiction so he passed on the information to the agency legally empowered to determine if it was substantive or not. Obviously it was substantive, or subpoenas would not have been granted.
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I agree with you to an extent. This is how Mueller should have handled the Manafort money laundering as well, but he didn't. The chilling thing is what the actions of the NY AG do to the protections of attorney-client privilege.

It's even more chilling how eagerly many Americans jettison their support for legal protections when the abuse is against someone they don't like.
 
LowDown said:
Good try, but attorney-client privilege is attorney client privilege, and I look forward to seeing you sorry pieces of trash walk this back.

You people are destroying every good thing about our legal system just to get to a politician you don't like. That's all I have to say about this.
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Exactly. When I was young and naive I used to be puzzled by world history and how a free people could allow themselves to devolve in to a police state, and with every passing year I am given a new example of how it happens.
 
AustralianuS said:
Democrates hate America
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Of course they do. All they want is to watch this country burn. They want to take away our God given rights and transform our free lives into rainbow-liberul-forced-sjw-concentration camps.
The modern Democrat will be the downfall of this great nation, heck, maybe the world.

Judgement day is upon us.









(lol)
 
jmotivator said:
I agree with you to an extent. This is how Mueller should have handled the Manafort money laundering as well, but he didn't. The chilling thing is what the actions of the NY AG do to the protections of attorney-client privilege.

It's even more chilling how eagerly many Americans jettison their support for legal protections when the abuse is against someone they don't like.
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The raid has handled by the FBI, not the Attorney General, and it was made pursuant to a court ordered warrant, not a subpoena. In order to obtain the warrant, there would have had to have been a showing of probable cause that a crime(s) had been committed. The only chilling part of this is that the conduct at issue likely involves the President, chilling but unsurprising.
 
I have no idea what you people are talking about.

Mueller brought the Cohen information he had to his boss. His boss decided there was enough merit there to refer it to the NY DA. The NY DA goes to a judge in NY for a warrant because he determines that there is a case with merit and that he needs a warrant to move forward. The judge grants the warrant. The FBI sends out a taint team to execute the warrant so that information and material not relevant to the warrant can be segregated from material relevant to the warrant. That taint team will never be part of a prosecution team in any of these cases. The segregated material that is relevant to the warrant is then handed off to the actual prosecution team and the FBI agents associated with it and the taint team and the prosecution team staff paths never cross.

I suspect that there is every chance that this is about Cohen potential crimes because Cohen is a blundering bonehead with no moral compass to guide him, hence a high likelihood that he has done things as trump's fixer that do expose him to indictment which came to light. Trump has already exposed Cohen to disbarment in abandoning Cohen to his own stupidity and lack of moral compass.

The real story here is that given how many skeletons trump and trump sycophants have in their closets, trump never should have run for office and the GOP should have forced him to release his tax returns before naming him as their nominee. Had the GOP done that, we never would have heard another thing about trump as a possible candidate for the presidency and we would not now be enduring this national nightmare.
 
Elroy Bean said:
Robert Mueller is a Republican.
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Yes, but don't hold that against him when he announces that Trump is in the clear.

Which he will do in July-August of this year. Just remember all these events that make it appear as if Mueller is going hard and heavy against all-things-Trump is most likely to show clear evidence that Mueller isn't biased in favor of Trump.

Remember that and try not to whine when it happens.
 
Who really cares....but I can foresee the ads for 2018 elections coming soon to a theater near you. Your Congressman has supported Donald Trump.....and the end of an investigation. Folks this is investigation 1....wait till the Dems get control of the House it will be be Benghazi that ass munch time
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Clearly proper conduct was iffy enough that cheering is in order, because here we find you cheering.
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Alternately, and more likely, it's because a few vocal Trump supporters have been calling it into question that a rebuttal in the public sphere is needed.
 
LowDown said:
Good try, but attorney-client privilege is attorney client privilege, and I look forward to seeing you sorry pieces of trash walk this back.

You people are destroying every good thing about our legal system just to get to a politician you don't like. That's all I have to say about this.
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Attorney-Client privilege only comes into play if Trump was the target of this raid... but what about if it wasn't Trump at all? What about if it was Cohen?
 
jmotivator said:
Exactly. When I was young and naive I used to be puzzled by world history and how a free people could allow themselves to devolve in to a police state, and with every passing year I am given a new example of how it happens.
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Police investigating crimes is a police state???
 
jmotivator said:
I agree with you to an extent. This is how Mueller should have handled the Manafort money laundering as well, but he didn't. The chilling thing is what the actions of the NY AG do to the protections of attorney-client privilege.

It's even more chilling how eagerly many Americans jettison their support for legal protections when the abuse is against someone they don't like.
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attorney client privilege only extends so far. it doesn't cover if a crime has been committed by said attorney.
now in order to violate that privilege it is going to take serious evidence.
 
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