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Most of The World Could Be 100% Powered With Renewables by 2050

Jack Hays said:
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[h=1]Costly wind power menaces man and nature[/h][FONT="]The true costs of wind energy are too often (deliberately?) ignored or underestimated Dr. Jay Lehr and Tom Harris Wind energy can never replace fossil fuels, despite claims of environmentalists and advocates of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s Green New Deal (GND). It’s not environment-friendly either. Indeed, wind power is hampered by many limitations, including: * its intermittent…
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I know that simply with my engineering experience dealing with automation equipment.

It's plain as day to me.

How long have I been saying that now? That wind will never be costs effective? At least not by USA standards.

They sure are expensive bird choppers!
 

Aussie Leaders Bow To Change In Political Climate And Back Coal

From The GWPF Climate change was supposed to have won the party the Australian election. But yesterday, routed in the polls, panicking Labor Party leaders backed the opening of a coal field bigger than the UK to mining. Fearing a wipeout in state elections next year amid a rising tide of pro-coal workers and a…
 
Lord of Planar said:
It's not so hard when energy prices are already though the roof.

Households already pay an average of around $0.22/kWh, which is about double what we pay in the more responsible stated of America. It makes renewable energy attractive, but with our lower rates, it's expensive for us.
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Even Republican politcians are on a local level starting to see the benefits of renewable energy.

Why Republican Leaders Love Renewable Energy

That renewables are more and more starting to outcompet fossil fuels.

“In fact, the LCOE for multi-hour lithium-ion batteries is falling to the point that batteries co-located with solar or wind projects are starting to compete, in many markets and without subsidy, with coal- and gas-fired generation for the provision of ‘dispatchable power’ that can be delivered whenever the grid needs it (as opposed to only when the wind is blowing, or the sun is shining),” the report notes.”


Report: Levelized Cost of Energy for Lithium-Ion Batteries Is Plummeting | Greentech Media
 
Scientists made ‘major overestimations’ of methane emissions from oil and gas production in the United States by relying on faulty measurements, according to new research sponsored by NOAA.” [link]
 
Bergslagstroll said:
Even Republican politcians are on a local level starting to see the benefits of renewable energy.

Why Republican Leaders Love Renewable Energy

That renewables are more and more starting to outcompet fossil fuels.

“In fact, the LCOE for multi-hour lithium-ion batteries is falling to the point that batteries co-located with solar or wind projects are starting to compete, in many markets and without subsidy, with coal- and gas-fired generation for the provision of ‘dispatchable power’ that can be delivered whenever the grid needs it (as opposed to only when the wind is blowing, or the sun is shining),” the report notes.”


Report: Levelized Cost of Energy for Lithium-Ion Batteries Is Plummeting | Greentech Media
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Nobody is saying they aren't beneficial. However, they have practical limitations.

Please stay focused, not possessed.
 
Lord of Planar said:
Nobody is saying they aren't beneficial. However, they have practical limitations.

Please stay focused, not possessed.
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We are not even close to any practical limitations, as the State of Texas has shown. With far more wind power than any other state, and a "wind-first" philosophy, they have some of the lowest cost electricity in the US. Other states are expanding their renewables substantially, with ZERO effect on grid reliability. Renewables can easily provide 40-50% of the nation's electricity before practical limitations (power storage) stands in the way.
 
Media_Truth said:
We are not even close to any practical limitations, as the State of Texas has shown. With far more wind power than any other state, and a "wind-first" philosophy, they have some of the lowest cost electricity in the US. Other states are expanding their renewables substantially, with ZERO effect on grid reliability. Renewables can easily provide 40-50% of the nation's electricity before practical limitations (power storage) stands in the way.
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Looks like 11 states are cheaper than Texas, which showed a slight increase from 2017 to 2018.

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On average, homes in Louisiana pay 9.53 cents per kWh. Residential customers in Texas, the country's largest deregulated market for electricity, pay a relatively low price for electricity as well of 11.68 cents per kWh.
 
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Media_Truth said:
We are not even close to any practical limitations, as the State of Texas has shown. With far more wind power than any other state, and a "wind-first" philosophy, they have some of the lowest cost electricity in the US. Other states are expanding their renewables substantially, with ZERO effect on grid reliability. Renewables can easily provide 40-50% of the nation's electricity before practical limitations (power storage) stands in the way.
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So please, buy a clue.

Stop cherry picking regional resources and acting as if the can be applied everywhere. It's damn ignorant of you.
 
Jack Hays said:
Looks like 11 states are cheaper than Texas.

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On average, homes in Louisiana pay 9.53 cents per kWh. Residential customers in Texas, the country's largest deregulated market for electricity, pay a relatively low price for electricity as well of 11.68 cents per kWh.
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Without looking, I'll bet Oregon is one of them, and it's a blue state!
 
Jack Hays said:
Looks like 11 states are cheaper than Texas, which showed a slight increase from 2017 to 2018.

[h=3]Electricity Rates by State (Updated March 2019) – Electric Choice[/h]
[url]https://www.electricchoice.com/electricity-prices-by-state/
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On average, homes in Louisiana pay 9.53 cents per kWh. Residential customers in Texas, the country's largest deregulated market for electricity, pay a relatively low price for electricity as well of 11.68 cents per kWh.
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I didn't say they had the cheapest electricity. 11th most affordable is "among the least cost producers" in the US, as I stated. Actually, they would probably be the most affordable if not for their two nuclear plants, which are extremely expensive to operate. Read the link - maybe you'll learn something.'

Nuclear power woes extend to Texas - HoustonChronicle.com

But as the economics of nuclear power in this country continue to slide, even the futures of the South Texas Project, near Bay City, and Comanche Peak, located 60 miles southwest of Dallas, are far from certain.

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The situation in Texas mirrors one states across the country are grappling with, as nuclear power plants face increased pressure to reduce costs to compete with a surge of cheap natural gas and increasingly efficient wind turbines and solar plants.
 
Media_Truth said:
I didn't say they had the cheapest electricity. 11th most affordable is "among the least cost producers" in the US, as I stated. Actually, they would probably be the most affordable if not for their two nuclear plants, which are extremely expensive to operate. Read the link - maybe you'll learn something.'

Nuclear power woes extend to Texas - HoustonChronicle.com

But as the economics of nuclear power in this country continue to slide, even the futures of the South Texas Project, near Bay City, and Comanche Peak, located 60 miles southwest of Dallas, are far from certain.

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The situation in Texas mirrors one states across the country are grappling with, as nuclear power plants face increased pressure to reduce costs to compete with a surge of cheap natural gas and increasingly efficient wind turbines and solar plants.
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What you said was: ". . . they have some of the lowest cost electricity in the US."

And now you are trying to backpedal.
 
Lord of Planar said:
LOL...

I guess you think engineering doesn't use science.

LOL...

You must have been in the same class as Media Propaganda!
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Umm.. no. I’m quite aware of what engineering is and isn’t.

You seem to be confused about the difference, and why your experience as a high school educated ‘engineer’ does not give you the background to understand climate science better than the actual scientists who study it for a living.
 
Threegoofs said:
Umm.. no. I’m quite aware of what engineering is and isn’t.

You seem to be confused about the difference, and why your experience as a high school educated ‘engineer’ does not give you the background to understand climate science better than the actual scientists who study it for a living.
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I never claimed I understood it better. I just don't lie about what the climate scientists say like the pundits do.
 
Lord of Planar said:
Nobody is saying they aren't beneficial. However, they have practical limitations.

Please stay focused, not possessed.
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For example Denmark already get 68 percent of their electricity from renewables.

As Wind Turned Down A Notch, Solar Soared -- 2018 Renewable Energy Report Denmark | CleanTechnica

Also their are a lot of innovation and technological advancements in renewable energy.

This Swedish Cleantech Company Wants To Mass Produce Printable Organic Solar Cells
 
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